$7 Milk?

Discussion in 'Food and Wine' started by JEFF9K, Dec 31, 2012.

  1. Piscivorous

    Piscivorous New Member

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    I have a friend that won't touch meat of any sort. She has high blood pressure, high cholesterol, fibromyalgia and diabetes. I'll guarantee you that if she went low-carb, high protein and sensible on the fat she'd get all of it under control.
     
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    All of those books are written by "leading" nutritionists. There seems to be a nutritionist behind every tree. The problem is most diets are debunked by other "leading" nutritionists. Do you want to know why? Because nutrition, diet and food production is a huge money maker. In the end few diets work because they cannot be tailored for everyone and they usually fail most everybody. There will always be some who succeed, but this is the result of immense willpower.

    Diets fail for the most part because people can only subject themselves to rationing what they crave for so long. Once they start realizing, usually after they have gotten the weight off, that they can only maintain that weight through strictly following that diet for the rest of their lives, they toss in the towel.

    Best bumper sticker I have ever seen:

    Eat healthy, exercise, stay active. Die anyway.
     
  3. Hummingbird

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    OMG! lol~ this same friend of mine also has HBP & diabetes along w/the high cholesterol..... no fibbromyalgia. I'll mention your advise to her.

    I know quite a few people who take a handful of pills every day and she's one of them. And their pills are for mainly for diabetes, HPB and high cholesterol.

    High cholesterol can often be reduced by the person themselves if they try by eating the right foods and exercise, but some people would rather pop a pill.......
     
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    Exploiting animals should cost you far more then $7. Man up you bunch of little (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)es.
     
  5. Defengar

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    Yeah, some people legitimately get the short end of the stick gene wise and even if they work very hard at being healthy it still doesn't work out for them, or they are never as healthy as someone with better genes who is doing the same things. A female friend of mine has been a stoic vegetarian for almost 10 years now, and yet she is still obese. She doesn't really work out that much, but she hasn't eaten any meat but occasional fish on years. Nature kind of screwed her over. I believe her cholesterol is decent at least.
     
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    I think even if I get diabetes I will be alright as long as I keep working out. Grandpa had diabetes, but he lived and was still very active until he died at 82 (and he didn't die of natural causes). On my grandmothers side of the family no one had health problems, and my great grandmother (who I actually knew) lived to be 102, and my two great aunts on that side of the family lived to be 106 and 107 respectively. Nothing was ever quit like being yelled at by a couple broads who were born before the invention of the light bulb lol.
     
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    I've replaced milk in my fridge with soy milk. It takes a bit getting used to but I don't notice the difference anymore. And it's much healthier.
     
  8. Piscivorous

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    I stopped drinking milk with any type of consistency 30 years ago when I kept getting kidney stones while in the Army. I do use a creamer, but it is usually either heavy cream or soy creamer. Both are perfect for my coffee. I also drink almond, soy or flax milk when I feel like having something like milk.
     
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    All sorts of foodstuffs are artificially expensive due to the ethanol mandate.
     
  10. Hummingbird

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    Still obese altho a vegan for 10 yrs? Wow! Something is haywire w/her system..... and she's had her thyroid checked? That plays a large part of a person's weight. A friend of mine was normal size down to her waist, then large thighs/legs. She dieted and exercised for a long time to reduce them - no luck. Hadn't seen her for a couple of months and she came over, slim from neck to toes - it was her thyroid that was off balance and prevented weight loss......

    Then my closest friend - a beautiful woman, looks like Natalie Woods twin, wasn't obese, but always had more weight than she wanted and tried hard to lose, but couldn't do it and her physical exams showed her in good health.... she finally went for the stomach band thingy and is now slender.... but what a way to finally get slim. I just hope she doesn't have problems w/that .
     
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    I love milk.... unfortunately.... going to reevaluate buying it though since it's just for me.

    But as far as health, heart disease, diabetes, ED.... laughable concerning me.

    I'm 5'10, 170, abs galore, no heart disease and ED has yet to be a problem for me at 37. Diabetes.... I'm at risk, but skittles will be the final straw that breaks that camel's back, not milk.
     
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    the oldest people to have ever lived were smokers, so much of life expectancy is decided by ones genes, people see people with good genes do something and think that it's what they did that made them live so long, when it may have just been the luck of the draw

    I think one can improve their odds, but your still playing the odds, and some still lose (ironically, stressing over those odds can reduce the odds... stress is a killer too)

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    She shouldnt worry....

    Obama and pals will have Milk removed from the consumer price index so no one will know inflation is actually rampant.
     
  14. Defengar

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    its not inflation, its called government subsidies, AKA, welfare on the corporate level. I would think Con's would want to get rid of stuff like that.
     
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    Last physical, about 155. Note: she eats enough for four people. (My stepfather's amazed reaction at a family cookout shortly after I married her, after watching her eat two helpings of potato salad, two chicken breasts, seven apples, and two sausage and pepper subs: "Where does she PUT it?!")
     
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    Unfortunately...it will put me in the ER. :( You do not realize how many things have coconut in them until you cannot eat coconut.
     
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    Milk isn't the only thing the government is subsidizing. Guess how much your "new and improved energy saving" light bulbs will cost after the government eventually stops subsidizing them. (including the special disposal costs)

    American taxpayers also heavily subsidise meat, in indirect ways:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/economics-trade/238079-taxpayers-subsidising-meat-industry.html

    In any case, the real price of milk (even at 7 dollars) is still far less than the real cost of meat.

    As for health, a limited ammount of milk is healthy, too much is not. There are solid arguments both for and against.
     
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    This is not capitalism!!

    If we are going to continue to fund corporate profits in exchange for cheap prices, then lets just go full out communist, because what we are calling the free market today, operates under none of the principles of capitalism!!
     
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    Then prove it's 'pure fiction'.........
     
  20. JEFF9K

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    Some people need meds along with the vegan diet. Dr. Esselstyn says that if you can keep it under 150, even with the aid of drugs, you should be okay.
     
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    Some people will live a long healthy life despite bad habits, but it's good to know how to increase your chances.
     
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    Most of the bad effects of an animal diet don't show up until a person's 50s, 60s, and 70s.
     
  23. TheTaoOfBill

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    It's still capitalism because we're giving all milk brands the same deal. So they're still competing at the same level.

    There is nothing wrong with government helping to alleviate costs.
     
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    Non-sense!

    We are subsidizing the supply and demand of milk!

    Please do explain how government intervention into supply and demand of milk meets the criteria of the free market?
     
  25. Defengar

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    AKA corporate welfare.
     

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