9/11 - The Legal Initiative

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Do you expect me to believe that Occam supports the fact that the only way for the official narrative to be true is for the laws of physics to be suspended on that day and in those locations? Desperation has you believing the exact opposite of the Razor.
     
  2. Bob0627

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    Post #169, Item #4 - re-read for comprehension. I made no such statement, it's a statement from a NIST FAQ.

    Post #169, Items #5 through #8 - re-read for comprehension.

    I don't have any fictional OCT, the OCT is an invented fiction courtesy of the US government. You endorse it with nearly every post in this section of the forum.

    You have yet to show any "mistakes" on my part.
     
  3. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    All 100% incorrect.

    Really?

    Any reader who really wants to know the facts about 9/11. That's eliminates the likes of you.

    Clearly I do.

    Simple explanations are for the simple minded. The OCT is not exactly "simple" but the general narrative certainly is and it is certainly an invention for the simple minded:





    Please go back and re-read my posts for comprehension, answered multiple times. Use a dictionary if you failed to understand. If you ask me the same thing again, it will be ignored.

    Having said that, the OCT is nothing more than hearsay and ALL eyewitness and expert witness claims regardless of whether they support the OCT or contradict it are nothing more than hearsay. The difference are those supported by other evidence vs those that aren't. Although even those that aren't may still potentially be proven to be valid at the end of the day.
     
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    I have no idea who you are, where you got your crazy ideas from or why you think I give a rodent's backside what you believe. You seem to be the side act for Bob's comedy show, so knock yourself out.
     
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    Wow Bob, this is fun. Shall I just do the truther thing and give an opposite stance?

    Profound Bob, profound. Mind numbing responses generally don't adversely affect health. Figure of speech Bob, google it.

    You've got that wrong Bob. Readers like to hear all the evidence, not the rather obtuse and ridiculous version you provide. Your brand of "fact" certainly does eliminate me, I prefer stuff that doesn't involve the absurdly unfeasible. Did you click the link I gave you? It shows how absurd you and all the other "truthers" are. Of course nothing so blatantly obvious like that would ever get a response or register from the likes of you.

    You argue like a child Bob. Occam's razor says the simplest explanation tends to be the correct one. It most certainly does not suggest contrived, unfeasible, absurd and manufactured bullshit is simple. In a way it is, but not the way you hoped.

    Bob, your posts and comprehension don't tend to be within the same district.

    I read your posts, you quoted hearsay. Would you like me to define it for you? Your man supposedly quoted from somewhere but gave no citation for it. You quoted him without checking it and after being pressed for substantiation, you avoid it. Hearsay.

    That is rather inaccurate Bob.
     
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    yeh thats a real Elvis waving at you too! :winner:
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Wow Betamax101. I actually read that insulting drivel. I try to read every post in this section of the forum to see if there's anything interesting. So I did look for that and I couldn't find anything worth my while. What I'm looking for is a discussion on 9/11 and the current events surrounding it. This thread is about the LEGAL INITIATIVE, a very current event. It's not about me and it's definitely not about you. This is what I want to discuss in this thread, the actual TOPIC. Take it or leave it.
     
  8. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I got my "crazy ideas" from studying facts and evidence. Though the truth is often unpleasant in the extreme, it has a way of setting you free from ignorance.
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    The “crazy ideas” you and I have are that we don’t grovel to the OCT like he does.
     
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    People call your ideas "crazy" because they are not connected to facts or evidence.

    Hope that helps.
     
  11. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, they call them crazy because they are threatened by the truth. Rather as Orwell noted in the last century, in a time of universal deception (that's now) speaking the truth is seen as a radical (crazy) act.

    Some people simply cannot handle the truth, even as others work full time to keep it hidden from view.
     
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    The case for exposing the truth about 9/11 isn't going away anytime soon. There's legal action underway in the petition for a special grand jury investigation into the destruction of the 3 towers on 9/11 and now:

    Families, Lawyers, AE911Truth to File Lawsuit against FBI over '9/11 Review Commission Report' on Mar. 25

    Next week, for the first time ever, 9/11 family members and advocates are taking legal action against the FBI aimed at forcing the Bureau to assess and report the evidence of the World Trade Center’s explosive demolition known to the FBI as well as other unreported 9/11 evidence.

    In 2014, Congress mandated the FBI to form an external commission to conduct “an assessment of any evidence now known to the FBI that was not considered by the 9/11 Commission related to any factors that contributed in any manner to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.” A year later, the FBI released the Commission's final report, which did not include an assessment of evidence related to the WTC demolition nor an assessment of several other areas of evidence known to the FBI.

    Now the Lawyers' Committee for 9/11 Inquiry and AE911Truth need your help to advance our historic lawsuit and bring this key evidence to light.


    https://www.ae911truth.org/fbi

    The 80,000+ pages of documents from the FBI's PENTTBOM investigation that have been withheld from Congress and the 9/11 Commission for well over a decade and remains classified and in the hands of a judge is not mentioned. I'm surprised this isn't an issue because it is unreported 9/11 evidence as well. Perhaps yet another petition for Writ of Mandamus should strongly be considered.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    This matter is ripe for Mandamus actions in the court. Is there really the rule of law in this country?
     
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    The short answer is NO. There is a rule of the elite, by the elite and for the elite. To date not one single official has ever been prosecuted for dereliction of duty on 9/11 (but several have been promoted) and not one official has been prosecuted for war crimes perpetrated and ongoing since 9/11 to date.
     
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    More on the 9/11 lawsuit.

     
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    Press Release Statement

    FBI and Department of Justice Sued for Failure To Perform Mandatory Duties To Report Known 9/11 Attack Evidence To Congress

    Washington D.C. (March 25, 2019) – The Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry, Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, and 9/11 victim family members Robert McIlvaine and Barbara
    Krukowski-Rastelli announced today a joint federal lawsuit filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia against the U.S. Department of Justice and the FBI for their failure to
    perform a congressionally mandated assessment of any evidence known to the FBI that was not considered by the 9/11 Commission related to any factors that contributed in any manner to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

    The action for declaratory and injunctive relief, to be described at a News Conference on March 25 near the courthouse, is being filed under the Administrative Procedure Act (APA), 5 U.S.C. 702, 706, and the federal mandamus statute, 28 U.S.C. 1361, because of federal agency failures to comply with the mandate from Congress.

    The complaint cites the failure of the FBI and its 2014-2015 9/11 Review Commission to assess key 9/11-related evidence that the FBI can be shown to have had, or been aware of, regarding:

    1) the use of pre-placed explosives to destroy World Trade Center buildings, 1, 2 and 7;
    2) arrest and investigation of the “High Fivers” observed photographing and celebrating the attacks on the World Trade Center on 9/11;
    3) terrorist financing regarding the reported Saudi support for the 9/11 hijackers;
    4) recovered plane parts, including serial numbers from all three crash locations;
    5) video from cameras mounted inside and outside the Pentagon; and
    6) cell phone communications from passengers aboard airplanes.

    This is evidence relevant to the 9/11 Review Commission’s and the FBI’s compliance with the mandate from Congress, which should have been assessed by the FBI and the 2014-2015 9/11 Review Commission and reported to Congress. The complaint also cites the destruction by the FBI of evidence related to the “High Fivers.”

    A News Conference about these filings is scheduled for 1 p.m. on March 25, 2019 in Washington, DC near the courthouse, with details below:


    https://www.lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org/download/25-march-2019-press-release/

    (click on DOWNLOAD)
     
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    The Complaint for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief filed in the US District Court for the District of Columbia is now available here:

    https://www.lawyerscommitteefor9-11...fbi-9-11-review-commission-lawsuit-complaint/

    It is a 44 page document that lists the DOJ and the FBI as well as their two respective Directors as Defendants. It is in fact mostly a Mandamus action. Although it doesn't say it explicitly it does strongly imply that the FBI was engaged in a coverup, ignoring and suppressing many issues that are fully known to the FBI and explicitly says that the FBI destroyed key evidence.

    That there is a 9/11 coverup by many different state actors within the US government, beginning with the Bush administration has been well known for the last 17+ years. I'm guessing that this action will be dismissed on some BS legal technicality because the US government does want this Complaint to go to discovery and will do anything to prevent that from happening. That has been the history of every 9/11 lawsuit since 9/11.

    If the readers will note, neither the grand jury action nor this lawsuit is being covered by the MSM. So what else is new?
     
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    Video of the press conference that should have been covered by every major media outlet but was not:

     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The government is scared to death of a lawsuit and the discovery process. The only trial related to 911 was the Moussaoui trial, and through discovery, that bit them in the ass with the testimony of the UAL dispatchers showing that UA93 was still running in the ARINC system 30 minutes after it supposedly crashed in PA, and it was somewhere in Illinois. Oops!

    It will be interesting to see how the Leviathan squirms to deflect the legal system this time.
     
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    yup yeah sure ... the gubmint is scared to death ... (not even going to ask you for links because you never have any) ... shaking in my flipflops ...
     
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    Shaking in YOUR flipflops? Goodness, are you the government?
     
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    Berman is too busy with the Avenatti case right now to consider crankjob troofer lunacy . ..

    still waiting for the big reveal ... come on Uncle Leroy ...
     
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    I can understand that. That’s what I keep saying, OCT defenders are terrified that the OCT is constantly being exposed as a fairy tale piece of propaganda made for the gullible. But don’t you worry the courts are not going to shake the worldview of the milions of gullible fools, there’s way too much at $$take. This case will be dismissed under some phony “legal” pretext.
     
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    The lawyers committee is an inside job.

    Same nonsense, circumstantial evidence, nonsense, junk science claims from a group that refuses to support with evidence the structure they and the government assert stood.

    Gage has never ever posted an image of the supposed steel core columns and steel framed core structure in the core area ON 9/11. That is because the steel framed core did not exist.

    The core was a cast concrete rectangular tube and the proof is here.

    http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11title_18.disclosure.html

    And cerrtified mail with hard copy was sent to the attorneys, with a copy to the state AG.

    Please sign this petition to put pressure on them to submit the evidence to the grand jury. This is engineering fact not nonsense allegations that cannot be proven. This is independently verified proof.

    https://petitions.moveon.org/sign/g...IANOnCm6G4YPwKkJXw8ukp7iRfitjzGKW5YDtyfB7kf1I

    Sheehan is a joke that refuses to answer questions about the 9th AMD and retained right to naturally pure air and water.

    https://www.change.org/p/romero-institute-ask-daniel-sheehan-to-evaluate-the-constitutionality-of-the-right-that-protects-all-rights

    The misleading on critical issues is massive. Critical thinking is needed.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, the Lawyers Committee IS an inside job.

    An inside job by concerned and patriotic citizens doing their civic duty in exposing the crimes of the criminal government in Washington.

    As is the case with many other such citizen-driven investigations, they would not exist if the government had clean hands and had done its job when this started.

    Instead, Bush & Company fought and deflected any efforts to investigate the events of the day. I cannot imagine being POTUS, having clean hands, have such attacks take place, and NOT ordering an immediate and thorough investigation.

    Yet that is what George & Dick did.

    Conclusion: they did not have clean hands. Their hands have blood all over them, and only a fool believes otherwise.
     
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