A 17-year-old high school student developed an app that records your interaction with police

I wonder if this will inhibit police from doing their jobs. It could be harder for them to defend themselves. Would you download this to your phone:

 

i appreciate the young person’s incentive...but why not just hit record on your phone? i have a video function and recording function that comes standard wirh my iphone

 

It will take about a minute for someone to devise an app that blocks that one somehow. My guess is that research and development will be police funded.

 

Video doesn't mean anything anymore, folks will see them breaking the law and still uphold their actions. Depending on who the person pulled over or stopped is.

 

Basic recording rarely goes to the cloud. When a cop grabs your phone and stops and deletes the recording, what are you going to do?

Not that this app is a new idea. Such apps have been around for years.

 

he couldnt stop the app?

 

Yeah, they're all innocent, just ask them.

The problem is the cop haters never learns from their mistakes. Remember when the ACLU fought hard for cops to have body cams and when the cops started using them pretty much all that happened is now the cops had video evidence against the thugs? So the ACLU then changed their mind and said the body cams were an invasion of privacy. So what will the ACLU do now?

We all know what's going to happen. Videos will be sent to the parents of kids and those parents will see their kid driving while impaired and other stupid stuff. And of course the DA will subpoena the videos and get rock solid convictions.

It's very likely this kid will be hated after a while.

 

All deleted files on iPhones aren’t truly deleted till you empty the deleted folder. I seriously doubt anyone would be standing there digging into settings trying to find these files.

 

Apps run in their own address space in memory. If another app was allowed to block other apps running Andriod or Apple, then some serious security issues would be exposed.

 

Such as the video of George Floyd physically resisting arrest without just cause?

 

So what if he resisted arrest, isn't that why we have police officers because folks don't always do the right thing. The police are there to uphold the law, not break it. Now you can clearly see that that he was subdued and cuffed, so there was no need to sit on his neck until you murdered him. As usual you come with the same old ra...........nevermind.

 

Cops aren't stupid.

 

They can't just take a phone. If they know the recording is already going out to the world, they won't. Otherwise, there's nothing to stop them except your word against theirs.

 

The people I think it's going to have the worst effect on are offenders. To immediately share facts of the case put you at a disadvantage when you defend yourself. I wouldn't download this app. I would record the interaction, and keep it to myself should it ever have to be discussed in court.

I don't think this app is for personal protection. If you have a lawyer they will tell you not to do that.

 

It would be the least used app I would ever have.. I MIGHT, speak to a cop once every couple years if that! I'd have to rate it "Teats on a bore"..

 

If they take away your phone and delete your videos that is proof of a violation of your constitutional rights. the only time they were able to search your phone for data is if it is in the process of investigating a crime.

When they take property or persons into custody they have responsibility for that property or person. It would be very easy to make a civil case that they took your cell phone because there would be a bunch of calls or interactions with your cell phone up until the point you're arrested.

 

More often than not, videos, regardless of who's taking them, will prove someone's guilt. This one is a good example. That last shot should put him in jail for a long time.

https://twitter.com/offensiveHood/status/1249917826753794050

 

show that it recording was deleted on the day end time of the arrest. Then present a civil lawsuit. Police can deny it all they want but if you recorded the video that was deleted the exact day and time of your arrest that's preponderance of evidence you would win a lawsuit.

The only thing a cop could do to get away with this is arrest you drop the phone in a puddle and hope to God somebody else picks it up and doesn't turn it in. Even if it has suffered catastrophic damage from water data can still be collected from it. It's just a matter of how willing you are to defend your rights.

 

Yeah, good luck with that. We all have the resources to hire a lawyer (an officer of the court) to sue the local PD. It's even more fun when the local PD uses that as a pretext to make your life a living hell.

The only thing a cop could do to get away with this is arrest you drop the phone in a puddle and hope to God somebody else picks it up and doesn't turn it in. Even if it has suffered catastrophic damage from water data can still be collected from it. It's just a matter of how willing you are to defend your rights.[/QUOTE]

 

Well videos can be admitted into evidence but they won't prove guilt. You'll still have to have a court hearing and discuss the evidence possibly even in front of a jury.

The importance of video evidence is oftentimes overestimated. You don't have the totality of the circumstances. Cameras have a limited range of view, recordings often start after the event has started, sound and video quality can be in question. So they're evidence they're not really proof of anything.

 

well if your rights are not valuable to you they're not valuable to anybody. Further justice isn't just for the rich, there are lawyers and law firms that specifically cater to people that do not have the means to pay a lawyer out of pocket. there are organizations dedicated to this all I have to do is figure it out.

But if your rights aren't worth the time why would you even complain?

the only reason your rights get trampled is because you lay down and let it happen. Because having to figure it out is a living hell.

It was at one point in our history where people decided to take up arms against an empire knowing they would probably die. And you can't spend a few months doing a little bit of research. This is why the Republic is dying. You can't be bothered.

 

also you do realize a video uploaded to Instagram isn't a substitute for good legal counsel. If anything it's probably stands a higher chance of incriminating you then the police. Please take the time to learn about the law what rights people have and don't have in the bad police take the time to figure out how to get around that.

You act like spending a few hours of googling things is something you can't do.

If we get into prosecution, after determining the police were justified in what they did then you haven't even bigger battle.

But I don't think this video app is for proving innocence. Nor do I think that it's for proving guilt on the officers.

 

If a corrupt police officer wanted to get rid of this data, he would find somebody that would wait a couple days and delete it and take the phone and destroy it. This person would have access to the Instagram account in question pretty sure you can remove posts from Instagram.

And should the citizen complain he just denies that there was a phone. It must have gotten stolen.

Any corrupt police officer worth his corruption wouldn't just delete videos unless they weren't completely stupid. and they would have to have a dozen other police officers that they work with be just as corrupt and just as stupid.

 

Not guilty.

 

32 cops this year already have been murdered.

From USA Today
“The number of unarmed Black shooting victims is down 63% from 2015, when the database began. There are about 7,300 Black homicide victims a year. The 14 unarmed victims in fatal police shootings would comprise only 0.2% of that total.”

Look what BLM is turning this country into!!! Over what? A statistical tiny number of people in the grand scheme. And unarmed does NOT mean innocent since an unarmed person can turn into an armed suspect in seconds. Piece of glass. A quick grab of a gun or taser like we saw recently. A pen. A key. A rock. A fist. A boot. Combined with an individual on a drug that makes them more resistant to pain or physically stronger than they look....-anyone can be a danger.

Now if BLM actually talked about the far bigger black on black murder problem, I’d have some respect for them. But you can’t respect LIARS!!! Especially liars praying on emotion and purposely spreading violence and anarchy costing the country countless millions $. Liars funneling all the money to Bidens campaign. Pure corruption at the core. Calling all white people racist? Making people guilty for crimes they never committed. Claiming Black people are afraid to walk down the street because of WHITE people and cops when they’re are far more likely to be killed by another black person. FAR MORE LIKELY. It’s disgusting, hateful and YES, racist to imply such hysteria.