A 17-year-old high school student developed an app that records your interaction with police

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  1. BleedingHeadKen

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    The point of the app is to circumvent a lot of this.

    Rights are trampled because people believe that a criminal organization that calls itself "government" has unlimited authority and that it is their duty to assist in that authority, possibly for a paycheck.
     
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    Wow, you are reading a great deal into this and telling yourself all kinds of stories about me. What else? Have you written a full essay about my alleged life?
     
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    Clever kid. Your concern is justified. Police are already self conscious of doing their job because every time they approach someone everyone around them pulls out their phones to record it. They are automatically treated as the enemy and an oppressor.
     
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    Yes George Floyd is a real victim. Meanwhile in exactly the same week, an innocent white video gamer was straight up murdered on tape by the cops. No protests for him though. No burning down the country for him. No criminal record, no resisting arrest, one second gaming with his girlfriend, the next second dead. No MSM media narrative for him. White people simply don't matter... amirite?

    Warning, exceedingly gruesome video of the shooting.
    https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...tal-police-shooting-ryan-whitaker/5459142002/

    Remember, this happened in the same week as the George Floyd killing. The difference between progressives and myself is that I would never use this killing as an excuse to rape, murder, and plunder my fellow citizens in the victim's name.
     
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    no it isn't, if a video camera could replace a lawyer lawyers wouldn't charge as much.


    No, brighter trampled because people don't stand up for them because it's too much to ask. The government doing what it does is merely a symptom of people not caring enough to do their diligence.

    The best way for you to stand up its first learn the law, what police can and can't do what you have the right to how to behave should you have the run in with enforcement.

    Second believe your rights are god-given and inalienable.

    3rd be willing to defend them despite what a hassle it is.

    Remember people died for those.
     
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    It really irritates me when people say what a hassle it is to stand up for your rights.
    Young men paid with their lives so we could have these rights.

    It is the nature of the government to try and bury you in red tape. It's much less costly to peel off the layers of red tape then it is to fight and empire.
     
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    guessing would record to the cloud, so if cops take you phone, no deleting it before you get it back
     
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    the problem is, sticking up for your rights could make life harder on you if you get a bad cop - but agree, that recording is nothing, the cop should be wearing a cop cam and recording it too, so I see no issue with it

    reality is, even with video, some will side with the bad cops
     
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    by the time police take the phone, it's probably already recorded what was needed, if the cop stopped it, that would be seen at the end of the video and any jury should find that suspicious
     
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    how is the cop gonna install that on a persons phone before arresting them?

    the reality is, I think you want to record and not tell them you're recording... they have a cop cam, so they already know they are being recorded

    it takes a long time to get access to cop cams unless it shows the suspect behaving badly, if it's the cops, it may never see the light of day
     
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    the idea is, if cops are behaving as they should, they have nothing to worry about
     
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    we wouldn't have any rights if people didn't sacrifice their very lives for them. Yes it's hard, and there is a point it what you throw in the towel and settle with being happy. But a bad cop is the point at which you must do this. The bad cop is there because the system doesn't remove them. Sometimes it's incumbent upon us to draw their feet to the fire. It's not our fault citizens but it is our duty to our fellow citizens.
    that's true with people you're never going to win over everyone. That shouldn't be your goal if you go against bad cops.

    I think about Rosa Parks it would have been so much easier for her just to get up and go to the back of the bus but that was the damn line in the Sand for her. She was a civil rights icon because she drew a line in the sand not because she did what was easy.
     
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    I've watched enough cop videos to know often times on the part of the police ego takes over. Police don't always behave like they should I absolutely support recording them.
     
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    When I was doing private security I were a personal hidden body camera it was about $60 I cut a button out of my shirt and stuck the lens through that hole, and nobody was the wiser, most importantly my hands were free.

    These are something people should look into if they're going to record stuff like this.
     
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    Seems like a good first amendment approved solution. I'm all for it.

    A live stream option is a must for it to be useful.
     
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    Files aren't truly deleted until you overwrite the sectors of the HDD concerned, preferably several times.

    You need a proper drive cleaning program that runs off a bootable USB drive and can overwrite the whole HDD several times over. Then you can be certain.

    Better yet, do this first then smash the **** out of it and bury it 6ft under dirt at least 200km out of the city.

    Lol.
     
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    Young men died for a regime. They didn't even fight for their own rights. All war escalates the power and intrusiveness of the state.

    It is the nature of the government to make you believe that dying for it is a noble cause.
     
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    You don't even believe that.
     
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    For more advice on wiping data and destroying hard drives, and also , hiding the entire computer in unconventional containers, such as a toilet, the Clinton Foundation may have invaluable tips:)
     
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    This reminds about how the ACLU and other "civil rights" groups pushed for cameras for officers, under the guise that it would prove cops to blame.

    But the conviction rate actually went up, at which point the ACLU switched back to opposing cameras.
     
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    This is why we need police reform, but folks like you say there isn't a problem. Probably 98% of the folks who were peacefully protesting were not raping, murdering and plundering. It is amazing how you will take the actions of 4 or 5 individuals and blanket everyone as acting in that manner.
     
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    What is the maximum effective range of an excuse? 0 meters. This was the same weak argument that was made in 1920 and probably in 1820. I guess it is easy to make excuses until someone close to you is murdered at the hands of the police.
     
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    I meant that it would be something that would happen without the cop taking any action. Much the same way criminals are able to get people's bank card numbers.

    I am ALL for citizens having a way to protect themselves and hopefully get bad cops off the streets. I hope it actually proves beneficial to the general public.
     
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    The autopsy of George Floyd confirmed the restraint hold played absolutely no part in his death. Rather it was due to heart disease, drug overdose, and coronavirus. His death was unavoidable under these circumstances. Had he not died in the manner that he did, he would have died while being transported in the back of the motor vehicle, or while incarcerated

    The above statement is quite revealing of the true character on the part of yourself. Such misspeaks are quite common in face-to-face communications, as one can physically pause what they are in the act of saying and choose not to pursue. In online communications, however, there is no speech-to-text function devoid of backspace and delete capabilities, meaning one is able to thoroughly think out what message they wish to convey ahead of time before presenting it, and make the conscious decisions of what words they wish to include, and which they do not.

    The very fact this aborted gaffe was deliberately included, not even as an afterthought, but a deliberate aspect of the post itself as if it were being verbally spoken, reveals quite a lot about the character of yourself. The fact this sort of misspeak is done regularly on the part of yourself is even more telling.
     
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    Never made excuses. The video shows quite clearly all the events that led to Floyd on the ground. It was not a simple case of racist cops singling out a black guy, tossing him on the ground for NO REASON and kneeling on him just because of his skin.

    Luckily the probability of that happening to me or a loved one, is a lightning strike. Getting shot by a cop? Sadly there’s a much higher probability that murder will be at the hands of a Black person, no matter what color I am.

    So after watching that video of Floyd, you think he ended up on the ground with a knee on his neck simply because of racist cops, even though he was treated quite fairly for a while before he ended up on the ground? Are you ignoring all the chances he had to easily comply with simple commands? Are you ignoring how many drugs were in his system? Are you ignoring that most other people never end up in his position because they can sit in a ****ing car when they’re being arrested?
     
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