A 28-year-old Democratic Socialist just ousted a powerful, 10-term congressman in New York

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  1. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not when we have "Privatize the Profits/Socialize the Losses" brainwashed mindset of the GOP tools that keep voting for these parasites.
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which ones failed ??
     
  3. Nonnie

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    I feel Socialism across the globe has tilted more to Communism.
     
  4. LafayetteBis

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    Socialism per se no longer exists - except perhaps in North Korea.

    Social Democracies do exist, and their definition is thus:
    Social Democracy, as a definition, is in the middle of the spectrum from Far_Left-to-_Right.

    Also, from here: Social democracies are the happiest nations on earth, US is 14th

    Enough said ... ?
     
  5. Soupnazi

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    Because he is a fool actually like all socialists.

    Employee owned businesses tend to be precisely the opposite of what you describe. Sure a few of them succeed but most do not and are less profitable or productive before failing.
     
  6. Soupnazi

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    Except they are not.
     
  7. Soupnazi

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    By definition then social democracies are far left. By your own definition they seek social justice which is far left and abominable.
     
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    Their mandate is to stop human trafficking and high profile foreign criminals (namely mobsters and terrorists) that have snuck into the US. They're not the Border Patrol.
     
  9. LafayetteBis

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    Your definition and wrong, wrong, wrong.

    In reality, they tend to be exactly what the definition says. Countries with a capitalist market-economy but also social benefits administered by duly elected governments. Meaning SD has entered into the national mentality as a "given" - the only question remaining how much more-or-less of it a country wants ...
     
  10. LafayetteBis

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    Blah, blah, blah. Moving right along ...
     
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    There is no such thing as "democratic socialism".
     
  12. LafayetteBis

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    Oh yes there is. Read all about it here: Social Democracy

    In fact, there is no longer any such national entity that can be called truly "Socialist", because that socialism required all the means of production be owned by the state. (So, that leaves what on the list? North Korea?)

    The EU calls itself a Social Democracy. The US calls itself "The Greatest Democracy on Earth". Superlatives are an "American thing". (We Yanks cannot express ourselves, it seems, without employing that speech-deformation. ;^)

    And in terms of the US vs the EU the run-down looks like this from here:
     
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    Only in propaganda. In reality there is no such thing as democratic socialism.
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Babble, babble, babble.

    Go away - your ignorance is showing ...
     
  15. LafayetteBis

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    Yeah, right. More one-liner nonsense from the Rabid Right.

    Moving right along ...
     
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    I refuse your propaganda and prove you wrong so you must move along.....got it.
     
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    No I am here in your face correcting you with facts which you desperately need.
     
  18. LafayetteBis

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    In a squabble, some children absolutely must have the last word.

    You've had yours.

    Do you feel better now ... ?
     
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    Childishness is ignoring a valid and intelligent post because you lack the intellect to argue the point.

    Which is what you did. Maintain the delusion while ignoring harsh reality.

    Must make you feel better
     
  20. Kode

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    Come on! You proved NOTHING. You posted a bumper sticker. That's all.
     
  21. Kode

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    You've only posted some highly biased, uninformed opinions.
     
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    claims she had a "hard life" growing up in the Bronx...

    actually.. moved out of the Bronx to middleclass neighborhood, average salary 116K/year, father was an Architect.

    http://dailytack.com/news/07/2018/socialist-claims-shes-bronx-investigation-reveals-thats-lie/

    But WHAT THE HECK RIGHT?, because if Elizabeth Warren can lie about being a native American to get a government grant to go to college,.. SURELY a new member of the Democrat Socialists of America Party can be allowed a couple lies. Its only fair.
     
  23. Kode

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    The right loves to pretend it's all about money. But there are some people making very good incomes who are Marxists and socialists and take a stand on the side of the working class every time. And that's what it's actually about -class stand.

    I don't care if she earns $500,000/year.

    But your link is a right wing hit-piece. Compare to this: https://www.dreshare.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/
     
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    Yes, yes, we are all very aware from Bernie Sanders that its not about upper middle class and rich Socialists, its about working class and lower middleclass Capitalists unwilling to pay more taxes to help illegal border crossers get their entitled welfare.
     
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  25. Kode

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    Whatever turns your crank.
     

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