A Biden administration official is on leave after they were charged . . . .

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  1. Reality

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    Sure go tell the Saudis, the Russians, the Chinese, the Indians, the Iranians, the Pakistani, the Israeli, every nation in Africa, most of the nations in the south pacific, several of the nations in south and central america, and anyone in the west who isn't a woke type, to harden up and deal with the degen rather than putting in a diplo who has the same qualifications but none of the baggage so the diplomatic effort can proceed unhindered. I'm sure that's conducive to achieving the nation's policy aims.

    THAT attitude, that get used to the hinderance degenerates bring to public office, is exactly the reputational harm I'm talking about.
    Its difficult enough to have international discussions when you don't intentionally wave a red flag in the face of the dignitary in question.
     
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    You don't represent a foreign nation if you voted as a citizen. Thanks for playing the game, even though you're real ****in bad at it.
     
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    The assistant under-secretary of nuclear waste does all that?
     
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    The person who the topic of the thread is, is obviously mentally ill.

    Do you find his behaviors to be remotely normal?
     
  5. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is the definition of mentally ill? What is the definition of normal?
     
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    https://www.fulcrum7.com/news/2022/...t-french-ambassadors-bastille-day-celebration
    https://spectator.com.au/2022/07/russia-didnt-get-the-memo-about-pronouns/

    They are public officials. They are required to attend various events and the purpose of that is to mingle with foreign dignitaries and business people and attempt to get the nation's policy aims advanced or at the very least to not ****ing embarrass the nation publicly.


    https://www.losangelesblade.com/202...nergy-official-replaced-after-felony-charges/
    At least they took action. Took them long enough given the photo evidence.
     
  7. Reality

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    Gender Dysphoia is in the DSM. Let it go.
     
  8. Think for myself

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    So are subtypes of depression. Do we classify folks with depression as mentally ill?

    There is no black and white, binary sort of definition of mentally ill. Someone with gender dysphoria is very different than someone with schizophrenia with delusions.
     
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    YES.

    Mentally ill is a minimum threshold descriptive term.
     
  10. Think for myself

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    Then wouldn't a large percentage of the population be considered mentally ill?
     
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    Depends on the type of depression and the impact it has on functioning in day to day life.
     
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    Depression in the DSM (major depressive disorder) must persist for a 6 full months unabated to qualify.
    A large percentage do not have major depression, they have a fleeting problem in their lives that makes them sad.
    Its 8.4% of the population, and it has a major coincidence with numerous other issues that would disqualify a person.
     
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    Good answer. I would question why anyone never felt depressed and wonder if there was something wrong with them.
     
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    8.4% of hundreds of millions of Americans seems a lot. Are they all mentally ill?
     
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    Yes, according to the DSM they're mentally ill.
    That doesn't necessarily mean they need to be committed or really have any intervention legal or medical, but its certainly something to look askance at when you're choosing a public official for a high stress, high clearance level position that will require them to hob knob with foreign dignitaries and represent the nation in public.
    If that disorder materially effects their performance, and performance as a public official includes if the people you deal with, like foreign dignitaries, find you off-putting and so won't be as co-operative or willing to listen, its fair to dock them for it.
    Many of the symptoms of major depressive disorder would tend to effect performance under that definition.
     
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    I don't know what caused his mental illness. I just have the ability to identify it.
     
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    So your more worried about that this guys orientation, and somehow inferring that Biden is somehow flawed for appointing him ?

    Yet you gloss over the 8 Trump officials that have been indicted, and some tried and convicted.

    OK, Got it. Guys wearing dresses are worse than guys who steal money and illegally try to change elections….OK…got it
     
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    Google is your friend.
     
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    Sorry, but the undeniable shortcomings of the awful Trump administration are not a defense.
     
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    Normal is when you have no symptoms of mental ailments so specific that they have names like gender dysphoria.
     
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    Dude, I just read they fired this freak. In any other world the left would have waited for a conviction, but they didn’t wait, they got this embarrassment out of there as fast as possible.

    As for the rest of your post, can you tell us how it relates to the freak in question.
     
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    Oh, certainly. Armchair, online diagnosticians are the best.
     
  23. Think for myself

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    The person in question's perceived gender dysphoria did not seem to impact their ability to become a nuclear engineer.
     
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    Intelligence isn't determined by mental illness. Surely you've heard of the expression "Mad scientist." :)
     
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    It didn't help either.
     
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