A last, last chance: Republicans strain for Obamacare repeal

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For the GOP, "repeal" = "banana peel."

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Seven years, dozens and dozens of votes to repeal "ObamaCare," and Republicans are still guarding against becoming "so sick of winning!" as the pitch man had warned them.

"Nobody knew health care could be so complicated."​

"The vote is scheduled for Groundhog Day!
- O Lordy! My bum hurts somethin' fierce!"​

 

i really love how hilariously stupid every day of this year has been. sucks to be so incompetent your majority can't overturn the policy you got half of your votes for vowing to repealou ran on

 

There will be no repeal of Obamacare, Natty. Too many chicken-sh*t, back-stabbing RINO's, along with the usual solid bloc of hyperliberal, welfare-state Democrats, will make that goal impossible.

So why are these 'Republicans' even making the effort? It's all a bullshit penny-whistle drama for "the folks back home" (i.e., TAXPAYERS) who desperately wanted us to be rid of this monstrously unconstitutional pile of socialist crap. Hint: a "subsidy" is nothing but WELFARE under a different name!

Nothing will be repealed. Nothing will be done that makes anything more fair and equitable for self-supporting citizens who actually pay their own way in life instead of sucking welfare off the government.

Last hint: if you are over 40 years old, the United States you grew up in is GONE, and we'll never get it back again. What's taking its place? Re-read George Orwell's masterpiece, "1984" -- especially the part describing, "The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Theory_and_Practice_of_Oligarchical_Collectivism

. "Now why would any Republican want to shut off my welfare faucet...?!"

 

The Affordable Care Act, never popular, passed with no GOP support, and yet after seven years of bellywhinging, the obsessive efforts of a GOP executive, a GOP-run Senate, and a GOP-run House are impotent (with no Democratic support) in replacing it with any of their variations on their plan to uninsure tens of millions of Americans.

The duopoly is far too ideologically hidebound and beholden to special interests to entertain the pragmatic step of adopting any semblance of the proven paradigm that covers everyone at about half the cost.

Ironically, all other advanced nations have achieved Trump's boast that his plan would cover "everybody!" as we "save so much money!"

 

Unlikely to pass in the Senate and will certainly fail in the House.

 

Yup.

Totally DOA and a waste of time.

 

Exactly as it was intended to be.... Just a half-bucket of slop to meant to appease the 'Tea Party' people 'back home'....

 

Hmmmm.... I wonder if bringing this back is meant to damage trump or try to recover the angry republican base. If nothing happens, congressional republicans will have a hard time explaining it and getting reelected

 

Interesting premise but I don't think this is the case. Republicans have been preaching "repeal and replace" ever since the day before the ACA was signed into law by Obama in March 2010. Naturally Trump picked up on the phrase during his campaign but the fault really lies with the Republicans in Congress IMHO. While even I was surprised by the utter failure of the Republicans to have any decent legislation ready to go on day one, they should have expected Trump throwing them under the bus. It's embarrassing.....and the Republican leadership is quite desperate........

If the Senate can't pass this latest abysmal attempt, the GCHJ Act, it's over - the only thing left is to do what they should have been doing all along - fixing the ACA. And yes, I somewhat agree with you, the Republicans will have a hard time explaining it....and some will have problems getting re-elected.......

 

They should have a hard time getting re elected.

What is worse, a collectivist drone that lies and pretends to be a conservitive, or a collectivist drone that knows its a drone, and doesn't deny it. The rhinos are far worse than my opinion.

 

When I heard one thing this morning that made me certain this little 'schauspiel', penny-whistle, lame-assed attempt to torpedo Obamacare would fail was that it would, as radical Democrats were screaming it, "DENY MILLIONS OF AMERICANS THEIR HEALTHCARE!"

Number 1: Nobody is being "denied" ANYTHING. People have the right to make any arrangements they like for their own medical needs in any way that is legal in the United States.

Number 2: The Obamacare fraud that "millions of Americans" would be "denied" is not (NOT) 'their' healthcare to begin with! It's handout WELFARE in the form of SUBSIDIES from the government. It's been GIVEN to them as an obvious bribe in return for their votes for Democrats -- pure and simple.

Number 3: Once you attach a leech to the blood supply of a healthy host-animal, you'll NEVER get the son-of-a-bitch to turn loose! LEECHES are the main reason a radical, socialistic Democrat Party even exists today. "Welfare-suck" is a very powerful inducement to vote for the overlord crudballs who "throw the bums a bone"....

Suggestion: People who suffer from genuine, proven medical situations related to misfortunes like terrible diseases, birth defects, or debilitating injuries should be given welfare-for-life -- or, for at least as long as their proven medical problems exist (which may be life-long)! Those who are just milking the system, or who bullshit some gullible Libocrat 'social-worker' into putting them on the dole need to be forcibly removed in the same way that leeches are removed from host-animals -- before they suck all the blood out of them....

But, like I said, the 'effort' will fail. This is just melodrama-for-morons, put on by squish-assed RINO's to make "the folks back home" think that they actually tried to do something to remove the horrible, totally unconstitutional crime and fraud that we curse every day as OBAMACARE....

. "I TOLD you what would happen if you let them suck AND still be able to vote!"

 

^^^ Number 1: All Americans should have adequate health care.

Number 2: Adequate Health Care is an American Right.

Number 3: The leeches of the alt and far right need to be removed from society.

 

Republicans have contrived one draconian confection after another that would un-insure tens of millions of Americans, whilst perpetuating the massive taxpayer subsidies that prop up employer-administered coverage for the privileged.

Either pragmatically adopt the successful paradigm arrived at by all advanced nations that cover everyone at far lower cost, or go the ideologue's unbridled capitalistic route and allow every individual to negotiate directly with insurance companies willing to insure them and their family members at whatever rates the markets will bear.

Make Mexico pay the medical bills of the legions of Americans who can't find affordable coverage.

Seven years of kamikaze assaults, those magnificent Republicans in their flying stink bombs bouncing off the impregnable hull of the Affordable Care Act, is a tour-de-farce in legislative impotence.

The only thing that could be more damaging to them is if they somehow succeeded.

 

We'd save money too, if we made people wait MONTHS for critical treatment. Nothing saves money like having people die in a line.

Or be forced to pay for care out of their own pockets. Doesn't show up on the Gov't books, does it?

Stop lionizing NHS programs. They suck.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/10/19/heal-o19.html

 

But it is still better than our system, as you well know.

All of the modern nations' national health care is better than ours, cheaper than hours, and their people live longer more healthy lives.

 

US healthcare is the most expensive in the world, but we spend $700 billion a year on the military.

 

US healthcare is the most expensive in the world, but we spend $700 billion a year on the military.

 

Oh no it isn't. I want to be treated when I'm sick. Don't you?

All you did was double down on Bumpo's lionization, and ignored the facts of NHS dysfunctions, which continue to get worse, and result in rationing care, just like even that SOCIALIST site admitted.

 

That is one of the myths that the true believers parrot to perpetuate the most expensive health care system on earth that dumps the medical costs of tens of millions on the taxpayer.

Longevity and infant mortality data provides an interesting empirical comparison regarding quality of care.

Quite a few Americans are going abroad for affordable, quality treatment, just as many - who can afford it - come here.

 

No one 'denies' that Americans should have health care, Jake. And, like everything else that we 'should have' we SHOULD pay for it ourselves! Question: Should you have to pay veterinarian bills for my pets...? Should you have to pay for my pet's food? Shouldn't I get to have pets if I want them...? And maybe I think that the government should pay to send my pets to Obedience School, too -- what's wrong with that...?

Please tell us all exactly where in the Constitution of the United States, the Bill of Rights, or the Declaration of Independence that you see anything stating that "adequate health care is an American Right"....

And who would you suggest should be the ones to remove people of the 'far right' from society? The same leeches, slackers, moochers, bums, and parasites who feast on people that actually pay taxes and support themselves and their own families?

After the "makers" in our country are removed, who would support the "takers"...?

 

Most of them know nothing about healthcare so its pretty easy to spout lies and talk about socialism. Further, Congressmen have Cadillac healthcare so they really don't care about Americans.... and those same old guys have no problem spending $700 billion on the military.

 

The constitution doesn't say anything about seatbelts or marijauna.. and a zillion other things.

 

The worst thing that could happen to the Republicans who have made repealing the Affordable Care Act an obsessive/compulsive disorder is if they were ever to succeed.

They have had seven years to either improve it or design an adequate replacement, and they're still desperately trying to ram their latest stinker through before the Congressional Budget Office has a chance to assess the consequences and inform the nation.

 

You are absolutely right, Margot2! Thank you for making a very important, relevant point!

And so are these points --

Does the government buy you 'seatbelts' with handout welfare or 'subsidies'...? Does the government buy you marijuana? NO! If you want a car with seatbelts, you buy the damn thing YOURSELF! And, if you want to smoke marijuana (in Colorado, at least), you go over to a pot-shop and you buy the damn stuff YOURSELF! With your own money! What a concept!

What kind of ridiculous, half-witted moron would a person have to be to suggest that taxpayers should have to buy either 'seatbelts' or 'marijuana' for others because others think they have a RIGHT to them...? And yet, that is EXACTLY the way radical, welfare-sucking Democrats think.... We should never, ever have allowed people with that kind of mentality to vote in this country.

 

This is not a good comparison. Driving a car is a choice, getting sick is not. EVERYONE gets sick at one point in their lives.

The question is, do we want, as a society, let the ones who get sick and didn't have enough foresight/money to buy insurance face the consequences of no treatment? Or do we treat them anyway, as the Hippocratic oath demands?

If we decide on the latter, as any civilized society would, we better make sure there is no moral hazard with people not having insurance, but get treatment anyway. That's what the individual mandate was for, and, in my view, the tax penalties for the freeloaders are way too little.