A message from Adam to all mankind by Rick Joyner.

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  1. DennisTate

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    I have read articles by many Christian pastors over these past forty years…. but this is in a league all of its own…….. This message is up there in the league with the type of wisdom found in near death experience accounts.

    Rick Joyner got this message during a visionary dream that he had back in 1995.

    https://books.google.ca/books?id=S2...a=X&ei=4lqnVMvZN9GlyASXrYCoAw&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA
    The Vision, Rick Joyner.

     
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    Here is the second part of this message…...

    Scroll down to chapter IV in The Call, page 72, which is part two of this book to get the context of the message.
    TheVision The Final Quest the Call RickJoyner PDF
     
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    people been claiming to predict the end times forever, even Jesus got it wrong when he spoke to his flock and said it would happen in their generation

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    Who's Adam?
     
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    You know...Adam....that guy who was the Kicker for the New England Patriots who then went on to kick for the Colts.

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    oh right, yes. for some reason I thought it might have been ADAM adam. you know, the mysterious chef living in the forest in "Northern Exposure". every once in a while he'd wander into town wearing no shoes, and say something rude but meaningful to Joel.
     
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    He sppears to be a talented creative writer.
     
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    I saw a fascinating video yesterday evening on the mechanics of how and when and why we transition over to a very different spiritual, political, economic and educational atmosphere on earth.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om5PH4x7OfY&list=FLd1ox3aBrMXmgvfVPwVaATQ&index=7
    Purified By Cosmic Fire - The Prophecy of Peter Konstantinov Deunov

    Only 12 minutes long and well worth watching!

    A couple of paragraphs from it though really got me scratching my head…….

    Wow….. could this fit with my wife and her friends being "raptured?????????!"
     
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    well dang, I just watched the movie "left behind", and I thought now if millions disappeared I would know why, now I will still be left wondering ;)

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    Yes……. for a Christian…… he is in an entirely different league than the usual………. most Christians when they come to the subject of destruction of the environment….. they go off on the "global warming socialist conspiracy to take away my car" tangent….. but Rich Joyner rises far far far far above that level of ignorance.

    And personally….. I find his assertion that he would never have been able to think of all these things himself……. quite convincing…. because I speak by phone with Robert MEndelson, the author of "The Way of Holiness and the Sacred Hoop" and "God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land" regularly……..and like Rick……. Robert tells me over and over and over again……. that he never could have thought up those books if he had not "been taken upstairs" in some sort of out of the body experience…. and shown……. how peace can be attained between Israelis and Palestinians…. and between Muslims, Jews and Christians!
     
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    Yes….. I tried to cover some aspects of this topic over here……

    http://www.christianforums.com/t7647325/
    On one level…. I am attempting to say that my wife and her friends are not stupid people….. and we should not simply laugh at them……. but on another level…….. to at least some degree…..my wife and her friends……. seem to be falling into the mentality…… of……. "I am such a wonderful Christian prophetess/ prophet…… I am here surrounded by all these terribly worldly people……… these people are not worthy to be breathing the same wonderful air that I breathe………. I am continually grieved by all their foul language and off colour humor………Oh Yeshua- Jesus……please rapture wonderful me…. out of this horrible hellish world"??????!

    This basic approach to life…… is terribly in contradiction to "The Law of Attraction" as explained in the brilliant film….."The Secret."

    Now my wife is not in this mentality…… and she really has fun with her non-Charismatic Christian friends…. and laughs continually with them….. and finds church people rather annoying when they go off on a pity party…… this is one of the things that Maria and I have in common. We are both truly enjoying our time here with all you "worldly" non Christians!
     
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    I know that this may sound weird……. but I consider that there is hidden meaning in what you state…….. There is an ancient Jewish tradition that Adam reincarnated as Shem…. and then later as the Patriarch Josef/ Yosef… then later as Joshua/Yehoshua ben Nun………. i have no idea really if this is true or not but………….. if this is true this would answer many many many questions.

    For example I read a tradition that an angel descended and taught Joseph/ Yosef….. all 70 languages of the earth in one night…… if there is truth to this tradition…. then this fits with the off the scale astonishing surge in IQ/ understanding/ wisdom/ Shalom……. that many near death experiencers and out of the body experiencers seem to go through……….


    http://community.humanityhealing.ne...source=activity&groupId=1388889:Group:1309557
    Gary Plumley's near death experience and IQ surges given to people who have OBE/ NDE?

    Now my wife would vehemently disagree…… but personally…. if Joseph/ Yosef was taught seventy new languages in one night… (he already knew Hebrew and Egyptian so 72 total)……… this was perhaps due to his having known those other seventy language in some of his probable/ possible "past lives?!"

    Helen WAmbach Ph. D. and Dr. Chet Snow found people reporting past lives all over the place….. they saw visions of past lives as both men and women…… all over the world in various ethnic and racial groups….. all over the place in terms of economic privilege…. all over the place in terms of political power and influence on the culture that they had reincarnated into??!

    Many Jews are offended by the Barbro Karlen - Anna Frank case……. because they do not want to face the possibility that they could be Jewish in one lifetime…… and one of those awful Christians who organize pogroms…… in another lifetime?????!
     
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    HEY!!!

    I have some advice for Adam.....If you don't let Eve pick that Pomegranate you are NEVER going to GET LAID!!!

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    No hidden meaning.

    Just a New England Patriots Fan enjoying a JOKE!!

    I have vast and extensive knowledge of many aspects of various Religious Beliefs and Texts and I personally think people...even those of Faith....should take with a grain of salt the concept of a person believing in what is written in the Bible, Torah, Koran...etc....as somehow believing what is written in a Literal Manner.

    Although perhaps a Human might have existed who's name was Adam....as well as Eve...they certainly were NOT the first two Human Beings on Planet Earth.

    We know this because it is impossible for the existing Genetic Diversity of Humanity could not come from only two original Human's as well it is not possible for just a Human Male and Female to populate the Planet.

    After only a few generations Human's would experience Genetic Abnormalities, Birth Defects and Sterility due to such things as Daughter being impregnated by Fathers and Brothers.

    This has been DEFINITIVELY PROVEN UPON A GENETIC MOLECULAR/ATOMIC LEVEL and cannot be denied or disproven.

    Religious Individuals should stop wasting time trying to argue or deny a number of realities such as things like Evolution, Earth's and the Universes Age and other Creationist Ideology that uses what is written in the Old Testament, Koran and Torah as a reaity as it was not.

    Religious Individuals can present a logical and within the boundries of the scientific method ideology that a GOD used the processes of both Quantum and Biological Evolution to create the Universe and perhaps Multiverse and all things and sentient beings within it.

    I think that people should just concentrate upon the lessons of value such as LOVE, FORGIVENESS, EMPATHY, ACCEPTANCE, TOLLEARANCE....that are found in ancient religious texts and books and leave the Hate Filled Fire and Brimstone Ideology to the past.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    if you recall the Alaskan Adam (Northern Exposure) ... he did indeed, possess a very strident and difficult wife named Eve.
     
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    LOL!!!

    Too funny!

    What I can't seem to understand is even though all Christian Sect Leadership except Baptists realise and have informed their Faithful that Evolution is a reality....why some hold on to the idea that the worlds Human Population could have begun with just 2 people?

    AboveAlpha
     
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    there's always going to be a small pool of loons, in any large group. whatever particular need this belief meets (and I'd submit it's possibly along the lines of that which drives some to seek fame ... a need to be extra-special), it's clearly a deep one, as they go to extraordinarily loopy lengths to defend it.
     
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    Well some members on this forum would certainly fit that description as we have a few that will absolutely refuse to accept reality.

    That unto itself does not bother me as hey....a person can chose to believe what they want right?

    It is only when they get irked when a person posts such realities and as they post nonsense confronting such a post and people like you or I challenge them to provide proof....THEN...it's deep end time.

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    One of my personal reasons is because if the G-d of Abrham/ YHWH/ HaShem is a being composed of fundamental energy who learned and evolved over eternity...… I have to assume that G-d would become astonishingly good at genetics......… and strangely enough....... even at the production of "reality films" with deep emotional, psychological and spiritual value.

    I am referring to the Life Review segment of the typical near death experience.

    The Book of Adam and Eve was preserved into our time period only in Arabic..... and it along with the Apocalypse of Moses confirms a part of the Koran that could play a significant role in assisting Christians and Muslims to get along much much better.......... which could make this world a much more peaceful and safe place for all seven billion of us?!

    http://reluctant-messenger.com/eden_1.htm
     
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    Next we need to go to the Story of Iblis/ Lucifer/ Satan in the Koran.......


    http://reluctant-messenger.com/eden_1.htm
    This story could fit extremely well with the theory that Raptors may have been warm blooded..... and may have been astonishingly intelligent..... All of us are aware that dolphins, whales and elephants may be more intelligent than humans..... well...… raptors may have, once upon a time....... had hands?????!
     

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