A message from Adam to all mankind by Rick Joyner.

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  1. DennisTate

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    YES!

    That is exactly what I believe as well…..

    We humans have such a high level of freedom of choice…….. that we can scare the hell out of the extremely evil.

    I do believe that an astonishingly powerful life form composed of fundamental energy will help out enthusiastically though when they see people making wise and altruistic decisions on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves.

    Isaiah 59:16
    There is hidden meaning in these verses. A time is coming when the most feeble Jew…….. has an approach to life that can be compared with that of King David.

    Zechariah 12:8
    Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus stated that an era would come in which the least Christian…… would attain a higher level of consciousness than John the Baptist.

    Matthew 11:11
    That could well be the very same world in which the weakest Agnostic……. attains a level of consciousness higher than that of ancient King Cyrus.

    http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=45&t=KJV
    Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him;….Isa 45:4
    For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.
    I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

    Living through infinite time in the past………. and planning a massive number of Big Bang's and/or Big Expansions……. .could perhaps make fundamental energy Mom and Dad far more emotional than we might imagine.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...most-emotional-being-universe-multiverse.html
    Could God the Father be the most emotional being in the universe/ multiverse?
    Which type of project will you tend to get more involve in?

    A job that you invested fifty hours of your time in over one month or a labour of love where you exerted a great deal of effort for 50,000 hours over forty years?

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html#a05
     
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    AboveAlpha............… in the following interview Pastor Rick Joyner.....(yes, the same Rick Joyner who I quoted in the opening post)....... predicts that something is coming against America that will make ISIS look like a school choir...............… It will come from America's southern border............…

    I have a powerful feeling that you Sir.........… will be amazingly active in your seventies, eighties and nineties.......and when you do pass on....... many political leaders from all over the earth will be at your funeral...................... and wake!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS_EytDDhgs

    Sid Roth interview with Rick Joyner (2015)


    ...........

    Isaiah 40: 30 Even the youths shall faint and be weary, and the young men shall utterly fall;

    31 but they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles, they shall run and not be weary, and they shall walk and not faint.


    .................

    And yes............. nanotechnology and genetic engineering could play a role in the fulfillment of these verses in your life...… and yes........ you might well still term yourself an Agnostic even when you are 87 years of age................ and even that would not mean that Messiah Yeshua/ Jesus/ Yesh...… doesn't consider you an extremely good friend of his........ or even as a Son!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Several months ago I was chatting on Facebook with a woman who had a near death experience.

    During her NDE she was shown things about one of her own future lives........ that she felt was taking place about five centuries in the future.

    She feels that part of her mission is to assist us to make the transition over to this vastly better world more easily....... and with fewer unnecessary deaths, pain and suffering.

    (Beginning in post #54 I quote many of her statements about the future that she saw)!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...rencies-finance-films-address-problems-6.html

    "In the soon coming world that near death experiencer Howard Storm was shown... the chains of debt had been broken..... and people were free to concentrate on raising children.... and growing food in their gardens....." (me)

    .....

     
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    I am retiring after this JOB.

    I was already retired but asked to come bacl one more time.

    The U.S. and Canada will be fine.

    We are very close to developing Low Temp. Micro Fusion Generators.

    When that finally happens....there will be a huge change in the Worlds Society and attitude.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Yes...… that is exceptionally good news indeed!

    But.......... reactionary forces........ even here in North America have an amazing capability it seems...… to keep us somewhat backward in comparison to what is possible?!

    Several years ago I read that Americans...… tended to be significantly more generous to charities than we Canadians tend to be. I have wondered if our tough winters tend to make us a little more worried about making it through to April or May of the next year.....so perhaps we save somewhat more????

    I googled this tendency and we scored very similar by this method of measurement.......

    http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2010/sep/08/charitable-giving-country

    ...… Although we are doing pretty good according to these measurements........."with great power comes great responsibility"...… and powers beyond our comprehension may well have high expectations of us to act as leaders in a transition over to a vastly more compassionate economy?!

    There is an ancient tradition..... that arch-angels Michael, Gabriel and Lucifer.... were once asked to do something rather unusual???????
     
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    The Life of Adam and Eve…..

    http://www.heavenlyascents.com/2008/09/26/when-the-angels-worshipped-adam/
    When the Angels Worshipped Adam
    By David Larsen
     
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    Over this past month or so I watched the first season of Spartacus on Netflix.

    After what I volunteered for back in 1990 I find films based on historical events to be somewhat more emotionally moving than would perhaps be the case if I had not made that specific offer to YHWH/ HaShem/ The G-d of Abraham and the Moshiach/ Messiah!

    I believe it was Saturday evening when I watched season 2 episode one of Spartacus……. and I got so revolted by the way that Batiatus got Gannicus into a match………. blindfolded……….. and Batiatus did this out of his tendency to exaggerate and say far more than he really should………………. Yesterday at work as I was thinking all of this over I clued as to how this would relate to any and all of the many probable reincarnations of Adam in all time periods……. Adam like Batiatus………… got all of his billions of grandchildren and great grandchildren into a combat…… where they are blindfolded and cannot see their enemies!

    No wonder I found that particular episode so revolting…………. since I empathize with the Patriarch Adam…… more than a little bit!

    Adam and i have far too much of Batiatus in us……………. to watch that series without feeling guilty!



    (These past few days I've been watching "Lie to Me." Much less hard on the head!)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Spartacus_characters

    Thank you for this information. All significant steps toward a greener and more sustainable economy is truly encouraging!
     
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    These are not ROOM TEMP. FUSION GENERATORS.....they call them LOW TEMP. MICRO FUSION GENERATORS as the Temp. of the Micro Fusion Reaction is at least containable....but you or I would consider such LOW TEMPS.....very hot indeed.

    The problem we have been having over the years developing Fusion Reactors which Fuse Multiple Hydrogen Atoms into Helium and in doing so generate incredibale amounts of energy and heat.....was to be able to CONTAIN THE FUSION REACTION as everything we tried before melted or failed.

    This Micro Fusion Tech. first was concieved as an idea during Reagan's SDI as we didn't want to use Nuclear Detonations in Orbit to generate the necessary Energy for Lasers, Particle Beams...etc.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I could be wrong.... but I think that he meant that their generation would reincarnate over and over again........ and eventually get it right.

    I just ran into an exceptionally well done blog on Adam and Eve.... and want to put this somewhere where I can find this later on...…

    http://www.sapphireconnection.com/reconciliation-to-land.html

     
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    If it were not for you mentioning this...… I would never have heard of this man!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Vinatieri


    ...................

    AboveAlpha..... I asked a question of Soupnazi over here that I would also love to hear your answer for?


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=364047&page=5&p=1065593972#post1065593972


     
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    Yes......… this is a true statement. He is one of the only authors whose book or books I have read more than once!

    This morning I woke up and watched an episode of "Let The Quran Speak" that I found to be quite fascinating.......

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhVSat_hoQ4

    The Quran & Just War Theory : An Introduction | Dr. Shabir Ally

    ..............

    Dr. Shabir Ally ........ made me remember a line of reasoning that I was forced to go through back in the 1990's as I was questioning pretty much all of my own personal beliefs regarding what was really happening here in this world..... and why?!?!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/religion-philosophy/418419-apology-all-members-military-police.html

    An apology to all members of the military and police!



    I just want to say that I am truly sorry for all those years that I was close to believing in near total pacifism! Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua once asked a question of the Scribes and Pharisees that should have made it obvious to me that an extreme situation can call for drastic action by a Christian or Jew who feels called into a life in the military or police!





    I am almost certain that Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua was referring to the situation faced by the Machabees when Greco - Syrian armies were attacking Jewish communities on the Sabbath.

    One community had refused to fight back....but the Machabees....in my opinion correctly judged that this is a violation of an admonition by King Solomon:





    ........... I mention this because I have a theory in mind that I want especially to put in front of AboveAlpha......… I have an idea on how perhaps a whole new level of cooperation could be reached between the nations of Jordan and Israel???!!!
     
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    But IF........ AboveAlpha's theories on Multiverse are basically accurate...... and IF..... I am correct that this indicates non - linear time........ then it stands to reason that many of the disasters seen in a future.... by Edgar Cayce and other psychics.... would be delayed and delayed in other time lines..... and many of the disasters could perhaps even be avoided altogether???!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...osophical-implications-multiverse-theory.html
    The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?

    I have suspected for about fifteen years that that time is not limited to being one straight line but instead branches.

    Over in another thread I just received a very specific and pretty amazing explanation for this that is in the language spoken by high level theoretical physicists.

    If........ you and I have been thinking seriously about changing our diet, becoming more physically active, well now we have another possible motivator?!

    The new and improved version of you and I may well get to live out life over and over and over again many times over nearly infinite time in the future, for each time that a moment within our lifetime is recreated and time is spun off in a new possible direction based on different choices that we are all free to make?!

    .............


    Quote Originally Posted by
     
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    not two people... one... eve was created from Adams rib
     
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    I am of the belief that G-d / YHWH/ The G-d of Abraham evolved and learned over eternity in the past............. and that very possibly five Adam and Eve pairs may have been created over the past several million years or so???

    I strongly suspect that we humans are being used to bring back fallen angels................. I believe that the salvation of fallen angels is of such concern to the Ancient of Days the FAther and the Ancient of Days the Mother.... (perhaps identifiable with the Holy Spirit - Holy Ghost)........that EXTREME risks have been taken.......... I believe that all of us volunteered for this project previous to the time of our birth...... and I believe that we knew that this was NOT going to be easy!!!!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...en-angel-return-g-d-divide-kingdom-satan.html
    Does a major fallen angel return to G-d and divide the kingdom of Satan and...
    cause it to fall?

    In a nutshell I have came to strongly suspect that Azazel is the fallen angel who will be somewhat like General Abner who brought the ten tribes over to King David or to Rav Shaul/Paul who repented of persecuting Christians and followers of God.

    I suspect that when the fallen angel Azazel returns to the God of Abraham with his whole heart...when Yom Kippur is completely fulfilled....then a major step will have been taken toward the ushering in of a truly new era of worldwide peace where even the eating habits of wild animals like lions will be altered!








    .............................................

    Unless G-d had a truly wonderful plan in mind......... it would be a terrible joke to play on Azazel..... to put his name into the Book of Leviticus????????????????????????!!!!
     
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    Yeah...that is possibly....at least in my opinion....the STUPIDEST concept in the Bible!!!

    In my opinion...the more one understands...the closer they get to whatever we could consider to be a GOD.

    For me...it's not a person with gender.

    It is so much more upon levels that even if I were to post 100 pages people would still not understand.

    So I just say this....it's NATURE....at least a part of it is NATURE.

    Because our Nature and Natural Physical Laws are only speific to our Infinite in Number Universal grouping.

    There are also Infinite Baseline Reality Universal Groupings....and our Grouping is just ONE of an infinite in number.

    Each one has it's own Natural Physical Laws and most we could not understand as our Human Brains are much too limited to do so.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Thing is...we have 100% IRREFUTABLE GENETIC PROOF upon a Molecular/Atomic Level that all life on Earth evolved from the original Single Celled Organism.

    We know this because of Viral DNA Encoding.

    Sometimes I get bored with saying the same thing all the time but I figure if I can get just ONE PERSON TO THINK...I have done my job.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Interesting!

    To me there is an analogy in this............ Intelligence would almost certainly evolve first in fundamental or nearly fundamental energy of some form.

    I lean toward two forms of fundamental energy..... one of them rather like waves.... the other like strings. One of them like the primitive form of light.... the other like the primitive and original form of music/ sound.

    I suspect that the two forms of fundamental energy joined together almost an eternity ago in the past........... and learned..... and experimented....... and evolved..... and got better at creating other forms out of energy.......... Eventually..... individuality and separate identity were invented..... much as we are getting close to true Artificial Intelligence.

    I suspect it could have taken billions..... maybe trillions of years.... maybe far more before envy and jealousy entered the picture........ but when they did appear on the scene the universe - multiverse soon became a war zone.

    We humans may think of ourselves as inconsequential in the big picture...... in comparison to the vast visible universe.......... but........ I suspect that we are involved in the prototype of......."the restoration of all things?!"
     
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    Everything is part of everything.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Yes........... it sure is!!!

    I learn a lot from our two dogs and one big old orange cat!

    Last week while I was having trouble with our router I finally got a chance to read a book by somebody who had a near death experience back in 1967. The future time line that she saw during her NDE was scary indeed.

    The warning for our time period......… is still valid....... even though in our time line the events seen by psychic Edgar Cayce and others have been delayed and delayed and delayed......… These events in a sense are still hanging over our heads like the proverbial "Sword of Damocles!"

    http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/7757629.Ariela_Solsol



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    In the time line that Ariela was shown.......... when America was knocked out as the leader and policeman for the whole world.......... A Communist - Islamic combination went in to fill the void........... and the level of violence, injustice, bloodshed and mayhem increased to such an extent that ........ America's mafia would probably have done a much better job of leading and policing the world????????!
     
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    The U.S. will continue Policing the planet for some time.

    At least until some people grow up!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    IF.............. the leaders in America would be willing to rise up to something that could resemble the attitude of ancient King Cyrus of Persia....... I believe that America and her allies could fulfill the role of "the beast" of the Book of Revelation............. which sounds kind of scary to a Christian like myself.......... but I am no longer nailed down by Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong's dogmatic assertions that the beast power is to arise in Europe..... the physical territory of the ancient Roman Empire.

    IF........ America's leaders could begin to see the off the scale Artistic, Diplomatic, Educational, Philosophical, Emotional and yes....... even Economic value in the restored Jerusalem Third Temple then.............. America would NOT be knocked out as policeman for the world and replaced.................... by a Communist - Islamic block of nations.......... That horrible future can be averted.... and this is one of the reasons why Ariela Solsol wrote her book and has also published a blog that also gives a lot of information about what she saw during her NDE.

    http://nhneneardeath.ning.com/profile/ArielaSolsol

    ................

    AboveAlpha.... it was actually your writings on how far advanced the F-22 Raptor and the F-35 is over their competitors that made me completely rethink that understanding of Revelation that I had been taught as a kid.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...jamin-netanyahu-lets-get-into-production.html

    P. M. Benjamin Netanyahu, let's get into the production of....



    .... semi reality science fiction film projects that are partly financed through alternative local currencies, and/or State currencies, and/or community currencies......... that address specific problems that human beings are facing now in 2015?

    .....Artistic Hollywood style "Armageddon" could bring world out of recession?!

    .........A serious attempt to replicate "Armageddon" would create a minimum of two hundred million jobs in China, India, Russia and Mongolia alone....... not to mention the number of jobs this would generate in Israel and the surrounding nations.




    Revelation 9:16

    "And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them."

    China now holds so many American dollars that any possible way to cooperate at a higher level seems to be worthy of consideration.

    One of the "stages" is the Jerusalem Third Temple complex. Without conflict a film is boring and we all know that lots of conflict surrounds the idea of rebuilding the Third Temple. Two logical years for this to happen are 2030 (only fifteen years in the future) and also 2070.
    .............................. ......................

    Oh wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I just noticed something in that verse that I had never previously clued to........"horsemen".......... .. two hundred million men capable of riding a horse........... will not be easy to organize by 2027?????!

    Also.... they need to become sufficiently adept with swords, spears, bows and arrows...... that they can put some fear in poor ol' Disciple John/ Yohannan.......(or whoever it actually was who was given the visionary dream known to Christians and the Messianic community as The Book of Revelation or The Apocalypse)!

    .... and scare Israel's IDF...... NOT AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!?
     
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    It is a known fact that people who obtain information through occult experiences such as dreams, clairvoyance, remote viewing, and NDEs tend to color their perceptions according to preconceived beliefs, cultural influences, and factors that shaped their personalities. In other words, individual bias creeps in and sometimes leverages what they emphasize. While the content of Rick Joyner's material includes plenty that is positive, uplifting, and profound, significant amounts are just plain awful and backward. I don't buy the idea of one man, Adam, being responsible for a severe staining and setback of entire world for eons.
     
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    I personally would go so far as to say that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and the saints that met with Pastor Rick during his visionary dream made little effort to turn him away from the Pentecostal - Charismatic movement!

    In the section entitled....."The Judgment Seat of Christ" there is a meeting with a deceased friend of his from church that does such a good job of corresponding with the Life Review segment of NDE accounts that I believe Pastor Rick is being set up by G-d to increase respect by Pentecostals for NDE accounts?!?

    - - - Updated - - -


    I was so impressed by what you wrote about the probable effects of climate change that I have quoted you on the first page of a discussion that could well be viewed by thousands of people before November 8.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=441606&p=1065780298#post1065780298
    How Hillary could greatly improve her image to America and the world.
     
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    But also.... a Dr. Otto Warburg..... wrote some fascinating ideas on cancer back in 1924 -1931 and........
    my father in law's doctor recommend to Mr. Fabio Intriago that he should begin to take water and baking soda....... after being diagnosed with prostate cancer.

    (That advice was given to him in Ecuador where the probability of being actual friends with your physician tends to be more common)!

    Doctors in Miami are astonished..... to find ZERO cancer cells in the blood tests and other tests that my father in law has been taking recently...........(BAKING SODA MIXED WITH WATER.... my wife and I have began to take it also quite regularly)!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warburg_hypothesis


    ..........

    well.... it does seem like the editors managed to take this article and make it basically useless to the average person..... Dr. Warburn also stated that cancer cells cannot survive in a pH balanced environment.... thus the effectiveness of baking soda and water in some cases!

    This is much more useful and understandable even by people like me.....

    https://sites.google.com/site/ganodermareview/the-root-cause-of-cancer
     
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    He's the "first man," according to the biblical creation myth.
     

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