A message from Pete Carroll on what we can do to help combat racism.

"(White people) need to be coached up and they need to be educated about what the heck is going on in the world," Carroll said. "Black people can't scream anymore, they can't march any more, they can't bear their souls anymore to what they've lived with for hundreds of years because white guys came over from Europe and started a new country with a great idea and great ideals and wrote down great writings and laws and all of that about democracy and freedom and equality for all. And then that's not what happened, because we went down this road here and followed economics—rich white guys making money—and they put together a system of slavery, and we've never left it, really. It has never gone away.

"And Black people know the truth, they know exactly what's going on. It's white people who don't know. It's not that they're not telling us; they've been telling us the stories. We know what's right and what's wrong, we just have not been open to listen to it. We've been unwilling to accept the real history. We've been taught a false history of what happened in this country, we've been basing things on false premises, and it has not been about equality for all, it has not been about freedom for all, it has not been opportunity for all, and it needs to be. This is a humanity issue we're dealing with. This is a white people's issue to get over and learn what's going on and to figure it out and start loving everybody that is part of our country, and that want to our country, wherever they want to come from."

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/pete-c...real-history-racism-speech-nfl-032543213.html

 

Pete can bite me.

 

He needs to do what the pilgrims did, cross an ocean and build the society he envisions.

 

Always nice to hear creative ideas...not enough of that here.
Do you really think the Pilgrims envisioned this?

 

Probably not. But they knew they were not a good fit within the society they were in, and had the courage to find their own society in order to not live by the history, values and influencers of the society that took them in. The Dutch I believe.

Not a great example but...Jim Jones did it. If he hadn't been an evil person it might have worked.

 

I agree....

 

Perhaps one problem might be the lack of free open territory these days.
Unless Elon Musk can colonize a new planet...the only recourse is to let this one be destroyed by humans and start over.

 

You haven't quite thought that one through....
Only rich people can afford to leave. The rest of us are stuck here forever....with Trump.

 

You cannot afford a plane ticket? Try again.

 

You haven't quite got the hang of it yet. Try thinking ahead a bit more....
You buy a plane ticket, you fly to a new location, you have no money, no food, no place to live...

 

This is the discussion our political leaders need to open up a dialog about.
Understand why blacks in the country feel as they do.

Everyone likes to say there's no systemic racism, because the laws have changed over the years to end it. But has it really ended? Are all laws followed and prosecuted if not?

Let's not divide the country over this. We need to come together as a country and address real and perceived issues.

 

Yes and what I find most illogical is the idea that any violence of protestors is condemned as "terrorist activity"
and yet peaceful protestors like Colen Kaepernick are literally destroyed.
So what do you expect will happen when you back wounded people into a corner with no other way out?

 

Pete Carroll coaches many blacks. Naturally he will say what endears him to his players. I wouldn't call his views objective. Sometimes I perceive blacks discriminate against whites. Can we hold a discussion on that subject and what can be done about it?

 

Colen Kaepernick has been "literally destroyed"?

 

Yet black people were succeeding like never before in this country under Trump prior to covid. We don't need more people placing blame we need more people creating opportunities.

 

Another white guilt monkey. This guy exploits blacks for their physical skills, and once they can't perform he tosses them to the curb. He's hardly someone who should be telling anyone anything about equality or history...

 

Systemic institutional racism has existed in America since the introduction of African slave labor.
The Republican abolitionist movement crushed the slave system through civil war and Reconstruction, but that movement's efforts were effectively resisted by the Democratic Party and the KKK during and after Reconstruction by disarming, lynching and disenfranchising black Americans. Eventually a series of progressive era racist programs were used to attack the integrity of the black American community, community and family. This has been well documented.

"Revelations of sterilization abuse during that time expose the complicity of the federal government. At first the Department of Health, Education and Welfare, claimed that approximately 16,000 women and 8000 men had been sterilized in 1972 under the auspices of federal programs. Later however these figures underwent a drastic revision. Carl Schultz, Director of HEW's population affairs office, estimated that between 100,000 and 200,000 sterilization had actually been funded that year by the federal government. During Hitler's Germany, incidentally, 250,000 sterilizations were carried out under the Nazi Hereditary Health Law. Is it possible that the record of the Nazis, throughout the years of their reign, may have been almost equaled by US government funded sterilizations in the space a single year?"
WOMEN RACE AND POWER, Angela Y. Davis, Random House, NY, 1980. p. 218.

 

MLK was dead set against violence.
But I think he once said, sometimes it's a necessary evil.

I don't think violence solves anything either. And it doesn't. But sometime, I guess, it's needed to make someone do something that peaceful protests don't accomplish.

 

I don't think Nike thinks that.

 

Trump's base of support in the black American and Hispanic American community is surging for rather obvious reasons.

"The latest Zogby Analytics poll just shared with Secrets had Trump’s approval at 52%. “The president has recorded his best job approval rating on record,” said pollster Jonathan Zogby.

What’s more, his approval rating among minorities was solid and, in the case of African Americans, shockingly high. Zogby said 36% of blacks approve of the president, as do 37% of Hispanics and 35% of Asians.

Approval among independent voters is also up, to 44%. And “intriguingly,” said Zogby, 23% of Democrats approve of Trump.

It was the latest to show that Trump’s approval went up during the Democratic National Convention. Rasmussen Reports had it at 51% at the end of the convention.

In a shock from past election years, Joe Biden got no convention poll bounce, according to a newly released Reuters/Ipsos poll."
WASHINGTON EXAMINER, Trump pops to 52%: ‘Best job approval rating on record,’ up with blacks, even Democrats, By Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist, August 26, 2020.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ating-on-record-up-with-blacks-even-democrats

 

Exactly right. Colin Kaepernick has thrived since leaving the NFL.

 

Peaceful protestors are clearly not terrorists. The rioters are all violent felons.
IMO, they are not "terrorists".
Kaepernick remains intact and is thriving.

 

Sorry no he didn't. And he would have been pissed as hell at white jackasses prancing around burning black businesses while chanting black lives matter as though it were some sort of gruesome parody.

 

I doubt you can provide much evidence that Black people were succeeding simply because of Trump.
Strange you guys wont let him take blame for anything he does wrong...
and yet give him undo credit for anything that resembles progress.

 

Dude Trump established circumstances under which people of all races creeds and colors could succeed. And yes it is indeed up to you whether you choose to succeed or not and a lot of black men and women chose to succeed and good on them for doing so. It was a choice not available to them under Obama Biden.