A Political Supersaturated Solution is Developing In The United States

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  1. resisting arrest

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    Quantity will Transform into Quality

    Professor Richard Wolff offers the analogy of the supersaturated solution to politics in the
    United States.

    In chemistry there is something called a supersaturated solution in which salt crystals are dissolved in water and then, to all appearances they disappear, you just see the water. But if you do that enough times the concentration of salt in the water gets to be so dense that the water cannot absorb another tiny salt crystal and keep its liquid form. That last salt crystal will be the tipping point where the water will congeal around that salt crystal. That is the metaphor. The political situation in the United States is like that supersaturated solution.
    A candidate or a movement will appear or an event will take place which will be the catalyst to unify enough people to bring the final end of capitalism.




    Towards the end of this clip Prof. Richard Wolff talks about the supersaturated solution.





    The bourgeoisie, always blindly empirical, were unable to see the explosive accumulation of subterranean discontent that was quietly gathering force. They were congratulating themselves that no revolution had taken place. Once they had recovered from the initial shock of the crisis of 2008, for the bankers and capitalists it was “business as usual” Like a drunken man dancing on the edge of a precipice, they carried on with the merry carnival of money-making, which acquired an even more feverish pace while the conditions of the masses went from bad to worse.

    Trotsky explained what he called the molecular process of revolution. In the History of the Russian Revolution he points out that, what determines the consciousness of the masses is not just the economic crisis, but rather the accumulation of discontent built up over the whole previous period. The discontent of the masses accumulates unnoticed until it finally reaches that critical point when quantity is transformed into quality.

    https://www.socialist.net/2018-a-year-of-capitalist-crisis-part-three.htm

    To use an example from natural science again, let us imagine the heating of water. You can actually measure ("quantify"), in terms of degrees of temperature, the change that takes place in the water as you add heat to it. From, let us say, 10 degrees centigrade (which is normal tap water) to about 98 degrees centigrade, the change will remain quantitative; i.e., the water will remain water, although it is getting warmer.

    https://www.marxist.com/pickard-dialectical-materialism.htm

    But then comes a point where the change in the water becomes qualitative, and the water turns into steam. You can no longer describe the change in the water as it is heated from 98 degrees to 102 degrees in purely quantitative terms. We have to say that a qualitative change (water into steam) has come about as a result of an accumulation of quantitative change (adding more and more heat).

    https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1939/12/abc.htm
     
  2. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Socialism, like Communism, is a cancer and must be destroyed.

    That being said, so is blind capitalism.
     
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    resisting arrest Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sure that was the same thing the slave masters said about the feudal system which overthrew slavery.

    I'm sure that is the same thing the feudal lord said about the capitalist system which overthrew feudalism.

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    How come French Republic, and Russian Communism, its all the same story, bread. In the essence of it, what is it? Its probably easy, itself. Restructure economic to central planning by government. Obama did the GM reorganization is enough for me, right? They all end up Nationalists. They're a product of world war 1 nationalism. How aren't they nationalists, in fact they all hate each other in the Iron Curtain. I'm a Chinese communist, I'm a Russian communist, I'm a Vietnamese communist.
     
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    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ignored.

    **** leftists, and anarchists.
     
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    And then liberals will be dragged into the streets and killed, as at every point in the past.

    Rich liberals and college liberals will be the first to die.
     
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    What, so tribalists from visigothic poland-area, just horsed their way all the way to Rome, then Spain, the name Vandals hovers around North Africa. Lucky its not a total loss of farming technology. Free slaves?! I Guess... The gradual lesser importance of the Feudal relationship. Now, as for the balaklava and the pistol for communism , that's spot on, old chap, what a fellow.
     
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    You see these little tantrums from time to time. Lots of folks insisted that the outbursts and the terrorism of the 60s had permanently changed the fabric of the US as a nation. Except it didn't. What it only succeeded in doing was to examplify to the pubic the real dangers of those who are so selfish, so indoctrinated and full of avarice that for a generation, the left failed. Not democrats per se, but true leftists, marxists, socialists, terrorists wrapped in political ideology and full of dreams of chaos.

    We see that same rise today. Ideologues, like the OP poster who have so thoroughly divorced themselves in the fantasy of social status absent the condition of competition and simply derived from their menial perches and dependencies. This is what, again, we face as the existential threat to our nation. Reckless chaos from the absurdities of social malcontent premised on the reliance on the indoctrination and entitlement they've developed in.

    And all the while, not understanding who their real masters are, unaware that the very things they rail against are the very entities who produced them in the first place on the expectation that these children of malcontent will one day be the very lever that forever destroys real civil rights and liberties.

    It appears that, once again, we need to be reminded of the danger to the rest of us that these folks actually present, and take the cautions path here that sheds light on their deviance without also trampling the rights we hold dear. It's a balancing act for sure, but this nation has endured this threat before, and it will again.
     
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    Socialism is only the stepping stone to communism/authorianism. It can't live by itself, but it's the gateway drug for the other two.
     
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