A Republican Conspiracy Theory About a Biden-in-Ukraine Scandal Has Gone Mainstream. But Is Not True

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    The accusation is that Biden blackmailed Ukraine’s new leaders into firing the country’s chief prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, to derail an investigation he was leading into a Ukrainian gas company that the vice president’s son, Hunter, was paid to advise.

    The truth, Kaleniuk said, is that Shokin was forced from office at Biden’s urging because he had failed to conduct thorough investigations of corruption, and had stifled efforts to investigate embezzlement and misconduct by public officials following the 2014 uprising.
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    “Shokin was fired,” Daria Kaleniuk observed, “because he failed to do investigations of corruption and economic crimes of President Yanukovych and his close associates, including Zlochevsky, and basically it was the big demand within society in Ukraine, including our organization and many other organizations, to get rid of this guy.”

    By getting Shokin removed, Biden in fact made it more rather than less likely that the oligarch who employed his son would be subject to prosecution for corruption.
    https://theintercept.com/2019/05/10...ndal-ukraine-absolute-nonsense-reformer-says/

    Another BS RW story based on a distortion of the events. Explains why Rudy was going to Ukraine to ask them to help trump by pushing this fake plot. Glad to see the msm is ignoring this BS. I hope they continue.
     
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    Its looking like there is lots of corruption surrounding Biden.
     
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    I wonder if the 20+ other Democrat candidates will give Biden a pass on this?
     
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    Then charge him. You’ve got a real AG now right?
     
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    A pass on him opposing corruption?
     
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    @The Mello Guy too


    One cannot be the Union supported Senator from Delaware for so long
    and be Free of Corruption.

    Can they?

    If you believe: "Yes, they can be Free of Corruption"
    Moi has a bridge to sell you. PM/Message/Conversation interests.

    Hurry, only 3 left.

    Biden's son's position with Ukrainian gas is a certain sign of corruption.
    That should be "The Issue". Not claimed ramifications.
    If daddy wasn't . .. . where would he be today!
    How did it remain under the radar?

    And Biden gets a Free Ride while Felicity Huffman pleads guilty
    of influencing the advancement of her child ;)


    Moi
    :oldman:





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    Sure, they will all just leave all this alone.

    Did you know Biden supported a 40 story tall border fence? We might be calling him Border fence Biden.
     
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  8. The Mello Guy

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    Lol it’s not like he’s some idiot from Trump U. He’s a Yale and Georgetown educated lawyer and has served in the department of commerce.
     
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    Only until after the primary I assume lol
     
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    What, did he major in minor foreign bureaucrat meddling?
     
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    Oh yes. Never said he was stupid. Just corrupt.
    And how did his son score that cushy position with Ukrainian gas.
    Please share.




    @The Mello Guy gets an award for the most tangential,
    change the point of a quote - reply

    Moi has witnessed for a long time.
    The tangential switch was "stupid" for "corrupt".
     
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    How does anyone get on a board of directors?
     
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    Please enlighten us, Boardies.



    You replied before I finished the final edit above.
    You do indeed :heart: tangents to avoid a point.
     
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    Trump should name a section "Biden's wall". :banana:
     
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    Creepy Joe has a son and Ukraine problem.
     
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    Its needs to be a really tall section. 40 stories is a lot
     
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    You made a baseless accusation, not a point.
    I’d imagine you get on a board by having a fancy resume and lots of connections. Biden checks both boxes. Does having connections make him corrupt?
     
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    and a child sniffing problem.

    Plus he is chained to the Obama administration which as time goes by is looking increasingly suspect.
     
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    Yep....don't forget the China deal...https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...biden-and-kerrys-sons-inked-deal-with-chinese

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    In 2011, Hunter Biden met with top Chinese government fund leaders alongside managing partner Devon Archer and James Bulger, the nephew of notorious mobster Whitey Bulger, who controls a Massachusetts-based consultancy firm. The meeting took place just hours before the vice president would meet with Hu Jintao, then China's president, in Washington as part of a nuclear security summit.

    A second meeting that year between Hunter Biden and other top Chinese officials would occur in Taiwan, just two weeks after the vice president opened up strategic talks with China in Washington.

    In 2013, the younger Biden would be part of an official U.S. delegation to the country. Ten days later, Rosemont entities inked a $1 billion deal with the bank of China. The deal was eventually increased to $1.5 billion."
     
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    He does have a son! 50% isn’t passing though.
    Better off focusing on the kids coke problem IMO
     
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    Put a platform up top with those coin operated mounted binoculars.

    Call it the "Joe Biden illegal alien observatory and wall" and charge admission.

    Proceeds go to angel moms.

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    Everybody KNOWS it ISN'T TRUE.

    But, when did Truth (and Facts) ever disrupt the "Narrative" of Trump and the RW Fever Swamp?

    Obviously, the entire Biden/Ukraine thing has about as much credibility as the latest Bigfoot Sighting.

    But, it is what it is. :smh: :bored:
     
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    Wonderful.
    If only you had said that in your first reply it might be believable.

    Instead you transplant stupid for corrupt. Si?
    And don't answer one question yourself, such as acquiring a Board of Directors
    job when asked to answer your own question.


    Moi's conclusion
    Moi is bad.
    No More Feeding unless a dialog occurs.
    Responding to the quote, not changing topic expressed.

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    So How Did Son of Joe Biden
    score his job with Ukrainian Gas?

    I spotted that as corruption before the current story.
    Was it really "clean"?
     
  25. The Mello Guy

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    I said nothing about stupid, I was trying to show qualifications...like it or not an Ivy League law degree is a pretty important bit to have on a resume.
    Still you provide no evidence of corruption lol
    But keep saying it! Maybe someone will believe it!
     
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