A Republican Conspiracy Theory About a Biden-in-Ukraine Scandal Has Gone Mainstream. But Is Not True

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    At a forum that skews 80+% Pro-Trump RW, I am sure that he will find someone that "believes" it..
     
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    Very suspect timing there.
     
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  3. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thats a question I think AJ is deathly afraid of answering honestly.

    Because much like his love affair with Hillary, it means 2020 is over now.
     
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    Oh @US Conservative
    Asking the question makes us
    Pro-Trump RW.
    Just ask AJ


    When I first heard of Biden's son's job in Ukraine,
    Moi sensed corruption. No clairvoyance needed.
    Really, is such foreign job placement for sons and nephews :rolleyes:
    so routine among the Not Pro Trump RW not to ask the question?


    Moi :oldman:





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  5. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    Get back to me when any of the Bidens are awaiting execution in Supermax.

    Until then?:bored:
     
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    Probably, all of them know better than to traffic In idiotic right wing memes.

    And Pompeo got disinvited. Ukraine is not going to be rope a doped into Trumpian BS.
     
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    I think Biden has a Ukraine AND China problem despite MSM desperately trying to say 'don't look behind that curtain because there is nothing to see here'.

    During a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations in January 2018, he told a story about the Ukraine, and the fact that the US was considering a $1 billion loan. He said:

    “I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from [Prime Minister Arseniy] Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn’t. […] I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a bitch. He got fired.”

    Now the story was supposed to show how tough he was, but it also showed how unethical he is.
    It just so happens that the prosecutor in question was investigating Burmisa Holdings, a natural gas firm that Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, was working for as a board member at the time of the incident described by Biden. So he got the prosecutor fired who was investigating his son.

    Hunter worked for the U.S.-based company Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, which received monthly transfers exceeding $166,000 per month from Burmisa Holdings while the vice president was leading the U.S. policy with the Ukranian government. How foes THAT look?

    Recently, when Biden was asked about China and tariffs, he said, "China, a threat? Come on, man. I mean, you know, they're not bad folks. But guess what? They're not competition for us..." Why the fuzzy feelings for China of all places?

    Well, in 2013, Biden and Hunter flew to China. Less than 2 weeks later, Hunter's firm got a $1billion private equity deal with a subsidiary of the Bank of China. It later expanded to $1.5 billion. In other words, the Chinese government funded a business it co-owned with the son of a sitting Vice President who helped determine policy. Do you think the Chinese government would do this without getting something in return? Believe me, China is hoping creepy Joe will be president....and THAT should tell you something...

    It looks like little Hunter did very well in foreign countries by having a Vice President for a father.
     
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  8. US Conservative

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    Agree fully. Biden's damage control game stinks too, notice the suspicious qualifiers in his statements...

    Joe Biden: ‘Not a Single Bit of Evidence’ Son Asked Me to Help Him in Ukraine

    Former Vice President Joe Biden denied Monday that his son Hunter Biden asked him for a favor in Ukraine while serving on the energy board of a Ukrainian energy company.
    “We never once discussed it when he was there,” Biden told the Associated Press. “There’s not a single bit of evidence that’s been shown in any reporting that’s been done that he ever talked about it with me or asked any government official for a favor.”

    When he was vice president, Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees for Ukraine if officials did not fire the country’s top prosecutor, who was pursuing a corruption investigation of an energy company while his son Hunter was serving on the board.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...evidence-son-asked-me-to-help-him-in-ukraine/


     
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    I wonder if $600,000 per year is the going rate for a corporate lawyer with no industry experience in a gas company in the Ukraine.
     
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    It appears like an attempt to poison the well for Biden. Convenient timing!
     
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    Just a reminder that this is not a new trumpspiracy.
     
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    There is a bit of difference between a politicians kid getting hooked up with a sweet deal (which is commonpkace) and evidence that there was a criminal plot to make it happen. This is a typical case of political smear by innuendo with no real evidence of malfeasance. This is the same tactic that has been used on prospective candidates by lying propagandists like Roger Ailes and company for decades now. It’s the old Lyndon Johnson method: “I know he didn’t do it, I just want to hear him keep denying it” method.
     
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    Can you read? Obviously you can but you chose not to read the OP.
     
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    No!
    We disagree.


    This is "corruption".
     
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    Sleepy dopey corrupt Joe's unabashed admission of quid pro quo starts at the 1:18 mark...

     
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    Oh no he got a corrupt prosecutor fired!
     
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    Oh no, Trump talked to a foreign leader.

     
  18. The Mello Guy

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    Nobody cares if he talks to a foreign leader. That’s a weak strawman lol
     
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    Nobody cares if Trump talks to foreign leaders.
     
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    I have seen that video for months now. If it is evidence that Biden was threatening to withhold 1 billion in loan guarantees unless a criminal investigation into criminal behavior by his son was obstructed, I agree that he should be prosecuted. Since Trump has control over the DOJ and the FBI, I am sure if that is the case, Biden and his son are already being investigated and will soon be arrested and indicted. If however that does not happen, all clear thinking Americans will assume that this is just another steaming pile of crap cooked up by Hannity and friends to take the heat off of their corrupt hero.
     
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    Well, the Ukraine government seems to think so. We will see what they have to say.

    Trump is correct. Biden needs to be investigated.
     
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    If not true does no longer matter in today's media. It news IMO the story sounds plausable.
     
  23. The Mello Guy

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    I’m sure you feel that way about every democrat.
     
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    The kids sounds like a real winner...
    Why would China & the Ukraine give that type of cash to someone like Hunter who has a dime a dozen brain?
     
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    And was kicked out of the Navy for cocaine use. So he went to Swamp schools, big deal, no doubt got in on daddy's coattails.
     

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