A simple question for supporters of greater firearm-related restrictions

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Xenamnes, Oct 19, 2018.

  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    Well...let’s be honest here (assuming you have that ability) given your disdain even for our military, you will never accept any explanation. Your mind is already made up.
    By your logic would you like to see all forms of govt abolished? No more military, no more police departments, etc?
     
  2. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    Military efficiency, the integrity of law enforcement departments, and the track records of other various agencies and departments, are not what is being discussed in this particular matter. Rather it is the proven history of incompetence and corruption at all levels of government, and its demonstrated inability to do anything in a manner that most would consider "right" and why this track record of mismanagement is being overlooked when it comes to the implementation of new firearm-related restrictions. All to get to the bottom of why those who continually call upon government to actually implement new firearm-related restrictions, choose to believe this pattern of incompetence will not be present in this area as well. Why is government given the benefit of the doubt on this particular matter?

    Is it possible for anyone present to actually explain such? Is it possible to get a coherent answer as to why the same government that cannot secure its own elections against foreign interference, can actually make as of yet undefined firearm-related restrictions work as desired?
     
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    First off, the military is part of the govt, the govt you have issue with, so the military and any other GOVT agency are on the table for discussion. Don’t like it? Don’t participate in the discussion.
    You keep whine about the govt not being good enough to run things but you fail to realize private companies can be just as ineffective. You seem to think it something can’t be perfectly executed then it shouldn’t be done at all. That’s just silly. No agency, no system, is perfect. You need to come to that realization.
     
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    Yeah that company. LOL. This is a job for the government
     
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    You’re making my point....private companies are often no better than the govt.
     
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    A company BY DEFINITION seeks profit above all else. A government agency BY DEFINITION serves the people above all else
     
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    Understood. But the issues that xenamnes complained about the govt, private companies also have. That’s my point.
     
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    I agree with your point
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its not the governments fault. It's conservatives fault. They make the government fail. If we restrict guns then we can force conservatives into line and take government away from them, and then government will work good again. Utopia is just a few more laws away!
     
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    I wasn’t challenging or supporting your point. Their is good and bad in both the private and the public sectors. Some governments are very poor at delivering cost effective and efficient service and some are better at it. In the private sector, some companies are very consumer and customer service oriented and others, like Google and Apple are ‘profit by any means oriented’. Blanket statements about the difference between the private and public sectors are difficult to make. However, my experience with government service has been in instances where government services have been privatized, quality has suffered and cost has often escalated and certainly service coordination has suffered.
     

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