A Thanksgiving Surprise: Native Americans Have West Eurasian Origins

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    So, the "Native American" is not that "native" after all.

    I've always wondered if the white man never set foot in the Americas what would the Americas look like today.

    Would the so called "Native American" population still be living in teepees, adobe structures and cliff walls?

    Would they still be riding horseback and using bows and arrows?

    Would they still be seeking their medical help from witch doctors and herbs?

    Inquiring minds want to know.

    "Great Surprise"—Native Americans Have West Eurasian Origins
     
  2. Yosh Shmenge

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    Kennewick Man has been claimed by various Indian tribes in the Columbia basin though he clearly is not genetically like them at all.

    So native Americans are a melding of East Asian and Western Eurasians? On this Thanksgiving it's important to note we don't know a great deal about the mass human migration that have left our modern world the way it is.
     
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    I wonder how long it will be before this thread is called racist.
     
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    The only thing racist about it is the attempt to delegitimize the claim to the Americas by the Native Americans based on their ancient origin.

    What an ignorant attempt.
     
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    Pfffft this isn't The Walking Dead, you can't just claim something.

    ...or can you...

    http://i.imgur.com/in19NUw.jpg

    But back on topic, I always think of how determined people of those ancient times must have been to spread out as much as they did. Their lives must have consisted of: wake up, walk that a'way to find food, kill it eat it, go to bed, repeat.
     
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    Well this has been common knowledge for a long time.

    The 'natives' didn't evolve here (obviously), they migrated across the Barring Strait when it was a land bridge 20,000-40,000 years ago.

    Yes, the 'natives' are immigrants in North and South America just like everyone else.
     
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    First...those are bottles of wine, but on topic, there are probably two types of people, those who like to stay in one spot and those who like to move.
     
  8. MrNick

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    If anyone actually looked at a South American indigenous 'native' it is easy to see they share genetics with Asians... They look absolutely nothing like post Cortes 'natives.'

    On a more interesting note than the blatant obvious - some American Indian tribes in the US south actually believe they're descended from Jews, which is pretty interesting.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    American Indians didn't have horses. The Spanish brought them. So the Indians would still be walking.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Remember this one simple fact. All people in the Americas walked boated or swam here. There are no native Americans.
     
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    True that.
     
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    Hard to believe there are still humans on this earth in such remote areas who've hardly had any contact with civilisation. Strangely enough they still live in bark/bamboo/hide dwellings. Haven't got a clue what guns are and rely on herbs (nothing strange here) to fix their ailments.

    I've been to villages in the remote mountainous north of Laos who've had hardly any contact with Caucasians.
     
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    How did I miss that? Didn't Europeans also introduce scalping?
     
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    Yeah,, we spent sometime in western Sichuan province, about 140Kms from the Tibetan border, on the Tibetan plateau, Khams Tibetan territory. Many looked Bolivian (my first thought) in appearance
     
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    Lol. Beat me to it
     
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    I have known for a long time that most of the Indians on the east coast were from Europe because we find the same type of stone tools in East Europe.

    So it appears that we, like Putin in the Ukraine, came here to protect our own people... We only had to kill the ones that refused re-assimilation back into the family.

    My son-in-law is part Indian and happy to be back..
     
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    Mormon propaganda is likely the reason for that. They have been trying to push their "Jesus came to America after he was resurrected" crap for almost 200 years now.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Yep. The Scottish were kind enough to bring that practice over...
     
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    Native Americans are native because they were the very first humans to occupy the land. Their genes don't matter. If you go back far enough all humans trace their genes back to Africa. It's just Native Americans are the people who can trace their ancestry in America back further than anyone else.
     
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    Arctic Native Americans traveled by dog sled.

    And some tribes used Llamas to carry loads.
     
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    Kinda old news (if you watch PBS). Nonetheless, they lived here for several thousand years before the 'boat people' came and decimated them
    through DIRECT INTENT and disease.
     
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    Why would Indian tribes give a damn what Mormons think?
     
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    This is very interesting to me since a genetic test links part of my ancestry to Fins and Sami people (Laplanders)

    I believe they are the only Europeans who share a gene with Native Americans. The Russian Veps, also a Finnic people sometimes call themselves "white American Indians." Though most are blue eyed and blond with subtle Asian features others look darker and more Asian. Genetic tests show as much as a third Asian genes in the mix. My genetics show a small percentage of Asian genes, though most of my family has blue eyes and light hair. The Sami and Fins were separated from most of Europe for at least ten thousand years. The Sami and Native Americans share similar old shamanistic religions including religious chants to communicate with the spirits and loved ones as well as to tell stories. Sami who follow their reindeer herds occupy what looks like an Indian lodge, though now days they also use snowmobiles and other modern machinery including global positioning.

    A band in Peru, I think borrowed some Sami music and claimed it was South American Indian music. Like Native Americans, Sami were exploited and mistreated, but they have won back some of their rights. They have now turned the old chants called joik into popular music. Sofia Jannok, for example sang about hunting for her aunt Irene's reindeer herd in the Youtube song Irene. Brule, a mostly Lakota Sioux band has sounds which sometimes resemble traditional Sami music.

    Obviously, these similarities may be merely coincidence. But what if they aren't? The implication is that Europeans and central Asians are more closely related than we have thought.

    There must have been some communication and trade between European and Asian populations over such a long time span.
     
  23. Pollycy

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    As of this moment, you are correct! We've known for decades that the people we call "American Indians" do, in fact, have origins in Asia. There is nothing "wrong" or racist about this. I'll bet some of the happiest people who ever lived were the people who settled in the Pacific Northwest, with plenty to eat, an agreeable climate, and lots of good, clean water. Good for them!
     
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    I believe Icelander Bjork has Sami heritage.

    bjorkbig.jpg
     
  25. OhZone

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    Why do they always assume that the Continents were located exactly as they are now?
    How about that they didn't have to cross any Bering Strait, but that they were here all along because the lands were contiguous?
    Likewise for the Eastern side of the Americas - they were adjacent to and contiguous with Africa and parts of Europe.
    That is also why remains of white folk are found all over the US and other parts of the Americas. South America had quite a mix of different people.
    http://www.expanding-earth.org/

    http://chapmanresearch.org/PDF/Glacial Cataclysm.pdf
     

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