You seem unable to answer questions....are they too INCONVENIENT for you??? Care to get brave and address the post of mine you quoted with something more intelligible than that emotional factless gobbledegoop above? """No, you appear to be about controlling women....because you sure don't care about their lives...and that's OK, they don't need your approval Could you explain what "kill for convenience" means..?? Nope, abortion is legal ...and if it wasn't they'd be charged and tried equally and all those grandmothers, mothers, wives, sisters, girlfriends would be torn from their children and families and thrown in prison for life and you "Life Lovers" could celebrate ... No, you do not value women's lives if you insist they are cattle that must be forced to breed....or think if "infection or whatever" kills the woman it's OK... There ya go with that "convenience" thing.... why do you think women don't want to be pregnant ? IT IS INCONVENIENT ....there is NO other reason. If a woman would die giving birth then the pregnancy is INCON-DAMN-VENIENT. If it will disrupt her life then it is INCONVENIENT. If someone is beating you to death and you fight back and kill them it's because they were bloody damn INCONVENIENT. . Yes, of course they're sexist ( which is as bad as racist) when you wish to take away the rights of women....and yes they are an attempt at controlling...and there is something wrong with someone who needs so desperately to control others especially when the issue does not affect them at all. . Ya right, you're not sexist because half the fetuses aborted are female ? ! . That's quite dramatic what with the "came to the brink" and all but what that has to do with women's right to their own bodies is a mystery. Gee, I bet those grateful female children are grateful they still have rights
My wife is curious as to how you think I force women to breed. You said it, now explain it. Those of us that have seen your post would like to know.
If you take a life because you believe it will inconvenience you in the area of finances, privacy or your social life, after you have chosen to take steps to conceive that life, well,,,,,that is killing for convenience. Perhaps you have done it. There are many that have. There is grace and forgiveness for those that recognize that mistake and refuse to compound it by promoting others to do it.
Missed by a mile! Denying women their right to abortion is theists, like yourself, IMPOSING their beliefs on others. When I support the individual rights of women I am doing my duty as a citizen to uphold the rights of others via my own individual right to express my opinion. Yes, you have the same right to express your opinion and I uphold your individual right to that opinion. But you DON'T have any right to IMPOSE your opinion on others just as my opinion is NOT being imposed on you. I am not FORCING theists to have abortions but you want to FORCE women to bear UNWANTED children. Therein lies the difference.
Are "those of us " you and your wife? Big deal.... Guess even with wifey helping out you can't address my post: You seem unable to answer questions....are they too INCONVENIENT for you??? Care to get brave and address the post of mine you quoted with something more intelligible than that emotional factless gobbledegoop above? """No, you appear to be about controlling women....because you sure don't care about their lives...and that's OK, they don't need your approval Could you explain what "kill for convenience" means..?? Nope, abortion is legal ...and if it wasn't they'd be charged and tried equally and all those grandmothers, mothers, wives, sisters, girlfriends would be torn from their children and families and thrown in prison for life and you "Life Lovers" could celebrate ... No, you do not value women's lives if you insist they are cattle that must be forced to breed....or think if "infection or whatever" kills the woman it's OK... There ya go with that "convenience" thing.... why do you think women don't want to be pregnant ? IT IS INCONVENIENT ....there is NO other reason. If a woman would die giving birth then the pregnancy is INCON-DAMN-VENIENT. If it will disrupt her life then it is INCONVENIENT. If someone is beating you to death and you fight back and kill them it's because they were bloody damn INCONVENIENT. . Yes, of course they're sexist ( which is as bad as racist) when you wish to take away the rights of women....and yes they are an attempt at controlling...and there is something wrong with someone who needs so desperately to control others especially when the issue does not affect them at all. . Ya right, you're not sexist because half the fetuses aborted are female ? ! . That's quite dramatic what with the "came to the brink" and all but what that has to do with women's right to their own bodies is a mystery. Gee, I bet those grateful female children are grateful they still have rights
I just ate burgers which consisted of a cow with significantly more ability than a fetus and was killed for convenience so I could eat it. Have you ever done that?
Yes, women have abortions because a pregnancy would be INCONVENIENT...there is NO other reason. You: ""There is grace and forgiveness for those that recognize that mistake.....""" From who? YOU!?? I'm sure you do everything in your life as inconveniently as possible and think that's a good way to be, most people don't.
Hey, I'll answer after you answer the post of mine you quoted , and continue to duck.... You seem unable to answer questions....are they too INCONVENIENT for you??? Care to get brave and address the post of mine you quoted with something more intelligible than that emotional factless gobbledegoop above? """No, you appear to be about controlling women....because you sure don't care about their lives...and that's OK, they don't need your approval Could you explain what "kill for convenience" means..?? Nope, abortion is legal ...and if it wasn't they'd be charged and tried equally and all those grandmothers, mothers, wives, sisters, girlfriends would be torn from their children and families and thrown in prison for life and you "Life Lovers" could celebrate ... No, you do not value women's lives if you insist they are cattle that must be forced to breed....or think if "infection or whatever" kills the woman it's OK... There ya go with that "convenience" thing.... why do you think women don't want to be pregnant ? IT IS INCONVENIENT ....there is NO other reason. If a woman would die giving birth then the pregnancy is INCON-DAMN-VENIENT. If it will disrupt her life then it is INCONVENIENT. If someone is beating you to death and you fight back and kill them it's because they were bloody damn INCONVENIENT. . Yes, of course they're sexist ( which is as bad as racist) when you wish to take away the rights of women....and yes they are an attempt at controlling...and there is something wrong with someone who needs so desperately to control others especially when the issue does not affect them at all. . Ya right, you're not sexist because half the fetuses aborted are female ? ! . That's quite dramatic what with the "came to the brink" and all but what that has to do with women's right to their own bodies is a mystery. Gee, I bet those grateful female children are grateful they still have rights
Denial of reality is your problem and you do not have the right to impose your denial of reality on others.
If you were capable of reading and understanding basic English, your obvious confusion would be eliminated....sadly this seems to be beyond your abilities. Allow me to clarify by restating in language more tailored to your intellectual abilities: Dem dar lil' sum day babys aint a thinkin' yet an dem dar cowses is. Gawd done kials lots of da lil' wons all da time wen he makes dem misscarriges onna counta he don't much like dem harlots so he takes dare fetalises up to da clouds....eatin' smart cowses aint near as bad.
YUPPERS! I accept that The "godless" tend to think more clearly and use facts rather than childish emotions and yes, there are children that are unwanted both before they're born and after .. How many have YOU adopted ???
Of course when you deliver death to the unborn, you impose your denial of reality on them. I think you know that.
I helped give life to five and they in turn value life. I mentor many, and do contribute and support those that adopt and foster care. Your culture of death does not only fail, it loses ultimately. Were you an "unwanted child"?
I understand your reasoning from the "godless" perspective. Whatever your emotions tell you....that is what you do. It is like being a "god" yourself. You place the value on life, and you decide who is unwanted. I cannot reason that way.
Easy to claim, impossible to prove. Here's some really INCONVENIENT questions: What "culture of death" ? Did you mean being Pro-Choice and protecting women's right to their own body, a right YOU enjoy? How is it failing? Abortion has been around for hundreds if not thousands of years and is still here..... What do you mean by "it ultimately looses"? Loses what? How would I know, were you? And again, if I ask you to explain what connection that has to women's right to their own body( a right YOU enjoy) you will not be able to answer...
. No, godless people tend to use facts and reality (we don't believe in invisible beings, an emotional thing) Then don't but you're playing god if you try to force your beliefs on others... Yes, HUMANS have always placed value on life and have always decided who is unwanted...
I know I was a wanted child. My mother gave me life after losing one precious sibling at birth. My youngest son was born with a heart defect. One operation at 7 days and another at 2 years old saved his life. I was amazed at the doctors and nurses apart from the "culture of death" that struggled, even fought back tears, while saving my son's life. He is full grown now, healthy, and married. It has been pointed out to me by many that partake in the "culture of death" that had the defect been made known by ultrasound, we could have legally ended his life. Again, as I said, from the "godless" frame of reference you seem to hold, I understand your reasoning. I arrive at a different conclusion of course. There are many many reasons. Here are a couple :http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...t-marks-incredible-moment-life-begins-when-s/ I hold to the fact that man was never apelike in form. I believe we were created intelligent beings. Intelligence has nothing to do with technology. That only comes with time. With time, also comes corruption. The ancient Prophet Isaiah had intellect as well as wisdom. In his book he declared to God, 'you knew me while I was knitted together in my mothers womb". A human soul is imparted into living cells at the moment of conception. The human soul is the most precious thing on earth. That is why "while we were yet steeped in sin Christ died for us." I have shared with you my frame of reference. I accept the fact it leaves me vulnerable to mocking and ridicule. That may or may not come from you. It makes no difference. I believe the Truth stands on it's own. In your own wisdom you said "Abortion has been around for hundreds if not thousands of years and is still here....." What are you trying to prove here? Of course murder has been around for thousands of years and is still here. Does that justify it? Current laws would say no. Your logic seems to say yes. I suggest you slow down Foxie, get a little introspective and examine your position. It might even change your life.
But humans have very different values. Some humans thought it was profitable to sacrifice their children on an alter to Baal. That did not make it right. In China,most female babies are aborted. Families beyond two babies are aborted. Babies sacrificed to the god of convenience.
