Abilene teenager dies after accidentally shooting himself in head while playing with gun

He dug up some dirt on Hillary eh?

 

Because he was stupid, training or not, excepting suicide, anyone who puts a gun to their head and pulls the trigger is an idiot.

 

Problem guns are everywhere and children need to be taught if they find one don't touch, keep your friends away and tell an adult where it is.

 

A coroners report doesn't describe why a person was killed, it only describes what killed the person.

It is the job of the investigators to determine if it was a homicide, accident or suicide.

 

According to the story he was with some friends, so yes there where witness's to the shooting.

 

Training has clearly been proven to work, ignorance of firearms as in this case has been proven to be deadly.

 

He solved that problem didn't he?

 

Where is your research backing that contention? I notice you edited out my research

The American Academy of paediatricians does not agree with your contention

https://www.aap.org/en-us/about-the-aap/aap-press-room/campaigns/gun-safety/Pages/default.aspx

 

Does not work

 

Don't touch is one of the beginning parts of gun proofing children up to a certain age, and that age is dependent on the maturity of the child, but at some point don't touch fails to work as a child being curious.

As such real gun safety requires satisfying that curiosity and the best way to do that is by allowing the child to operate a real gun in a controlled environment, allow them to learn just how powerful a gun can be and with the proper target, just how much damage a tool such as a gun can do, if not operated properly.

 

The sheer numbers back my claim, the ratio of firearms compared to the U.S. population versus children accidentaly killed by children with firearms or accidental, indicates training is working, be it hunter safety programs which children 12 or over can participate in, private firearm training which again is offered to those 12 and up, or the best training which is parental.

Lack of training or 'just say no" is a very good way to get a child killed.

 

One again incorrect and the ideas proffered by the anti-gun group actually can contribute to the problem not reduce it.

 

Which speaks volumes to the larger problem in the U.S. that being no respect for life of oneself or others.

I have stated it before and will state it again, guns are a symptom of a problem not the actual problem and treating a symptom never solves the problem, it just makes people feel better.

 

Knowledge is power and adding to a child's knowledge is a good solution to making them safer and more responsible.

 

That has already started in England as criminals and terrorists have moved from guns to knives and vehicles to commit their crimes.

 

And the owner of that gun should do hard time, anyone who owns a firearm takes on a huge responsibility and a primary part of that responsibility is to limit access to any of the owned firearms to only those who are authorized to have access to them.

A firearm owner should never leave a firearm accessible in a home or business when they are not there, unattended firearms must be stowed in a secure location, while a gun safe is nice, many people lack the funds to buy one or simply do not have the room for one, as such a closet with a deadbolt added to the door is a good inexpensive idea.

Hiding guns is dumb, it becomes a repetitive practice and children notice such, because of that the guns are not really hidden, they are just out of sight and quite accessible by a child.

 

Her husband was also a collector of NFA firearms mostly machine guns.

 

I respectfully disagree with you, or at least partially disagree.

Yes, it's true the owner should have put it a safe that was not accessible to that 14-year-old. And they probably should have known that that particular 14-year-old was probably not the most trustworthy or responsible. But to try to automatically extend that to all 14-year-olds is a stretch too far.
I wouldn't be against giving those parents a few months of prison time, but you also have to realize this is probably a terrible loss to them too. They are already grieving and suffering punishment from the fact that their own child died. Some things are a natural punishment.

If we were talking about younger children being in the house, it might be different, and then the parents really would have been under obligation to exercise more caution and take preventative measures.

 

You've never worked with teenagers? Nobody needs training to know that putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger is a bad idea. Plenty of adults do things they know isn't a good idea all the time though, let alone teenagers showing off to each other. I'm not convinced any kind of basic gun training would have necessarily prevented this (and that's assuming none of them had any).

 

And yet, this kid is dead.
Because he didn't know how to safely handle a gun.

 

Actually you'd be surprised. Have you ever seen videos of Liberals encountering a gun for the first time, and the ridiculously unsafe things that they do with it? (start pointing the gun around in all directions, even swinging a loaded gun around past people without any care who it might to be pointed at)

You take these things for granted, but for a lot of people, even adults, these things are not automatically self-explanatory.

 

I don't think I did that, I would have no problems with a 14 year old child having access to a parents gun if that child was properly trained on how to safely use it.

There have been numerous incidents where children as young as 14 have used guns to protect themselves and others in their home when attacked by criminals.

I agree they are probably suffering or maybe lawyering up to sue the manufacturer of the gun hoping to win the lawsuit lottery, however whoever stowed that gun where a untrained child could access it committed a criminal act and needs to be made an example of.

Every time some foolish gun owner does something like this, it provides fuel to the anti-gun crowd and as responsible gun owners we should demand such fools be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the appropriate laws.

 

Like the liberals that suffer PTSD after shooting one?

 

Fear does not automatically translate into following safety protocols, even the most basic safety protocols.
That requires some common sense.

There are a lot of things that should be common sense, if given just a little bit of thought, but may not immediately occur to someone doing something for the first time if they have never been taught the basics before.
It's the same with operating power woodworking tools, and is the reason accidents can so often happen. You often don't think about these things when you're in the middle of doing something you're not familiar with.

 

How much do you want to bet if you put a thousand liberals each into a separate room and handed them a loaded gun, one of them would accidentally shoot themselves?

(Heck, if you're having any hesitancy believing that, just take a look at some of the personalities in this forum)