Abortion is a homicide, deal with it

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  1. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Killing someone who points a gun at you isn't either, but it is a homicide.
     
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    Not trivializing. I would rather there were not abortions - but it is a reality we deal with. It is a law that would be impossible to enforce. It would be a law that would be enforced solely against the poor who could not go on "vacation". The only way to determine if miscarriages were induced or not would be to physically exam EVERY woman who had one.

    So let's hear your enforcement mechanism. Tell us how it all works.
     
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    no more than someone who passes a dead body on the street and doesn't call the cops assuming a crime has taken place. That all youve got?

    nobody is required by law to assume a crime has taken place with no evidence.

     
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    No , you're the one lying about it being a 'child" , it isn't. It's a fetus...and a fetus has no rights because it isn't legally a person.
     
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    A woman's doctor tells her that she to be bed-ridden the last trimester. She gets up and goes to walk the dog, and has a miscarriage. Under your law, she would have to be charged with a crime. Walk me through that.
     
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    Different issue for a different thread, post it if you want. Not chasing rabbits
     
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    The woman was pregnant - then she wasn't. That's evidence of a possible crime under our proposed law.
     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    First of all tell me how you made that leap? using your logic she would automatically be arrested if her husband has a heart attack k and died.
     
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    You mean you can't find a way to make your law work. Welcome to the conclusion of the Justices in Roe v. Wade.
     
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    No more than a guy was alive and now he is dead. exceptionally weak evidence of a crime.
     
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    Nice try, I won'
    let you derail the discussion on the point if abortion being a homicide. It is.
     
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    Having a heart attack isn't a crime. Your law would make loosing a fetus a possible crime.
     
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    I am just quoting federal law. Literally says "child in utero at any stage of development". No lies here.
     
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    heavy sigh, having a miscarriage isn' a crime either. NEXT
     
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    r u ****ing serious????????????

    i posted the text of the law and it said abortion is not a crime even under the law.
     
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    That would not worry many so called pro lifers
     
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    So you just wish to ignore the truth of the UVVA. Wht are you even here?


     
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    literally says doesnt include abortion
     
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    I did not say abortion isn' a homicide, in fact the exception proves it does consider it a homicide. just a legal one, like self defense.
     
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    OK Now who is lying.
     
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    and yet it doesnt include abortion
     
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    Irrelevant to the point at hand.
     
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    homicide is the killing of a person by another person.

    show us the law declaring personhood rights upomn fetuses.
     
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    oh it includes it, by making a specific exception. Wouldn't be needed if it isn' a homicide.
     
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    Show me a law declaring personhood on anybody.


     

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