As we look back on the history of slavery, Jim Crow laws and segregation we ask ourselves how the majority would allow the hideous acts done to a minority. I feel that in 50 years we will look back on the hideous acts done to our unborn children the same way. Decisions on slavery were made based on the thought of the time and not what was right and moral. It was justified by scientific thoughts at the time and used to destroy generations of a race. Abortion has put an end to more lives than most countries have as a total population. Pro-Abortion people use science to justify acts at this time that are not right and not moral.
What's the solution? Should the government abrogate every woman's ownership of her own body and declare that their body is owned by the state?
You wish to stop it? Lobby for more education and free contraception for the poorer members of society. Heck! Go out and decorate some condom trees because given the choice people do not WANT to have abortions
They already give away birth control and condoms. What sort of education, seems they should already be educated on how one becomes pregnant. Be specific on what education you're talking about.
Once we pick apart this analogy it clearly makes no sense. Let's take a quick look at history and REAL slaves since apparently this is the new pro-life talking point. So REAL slaves, born human beings are owned by other human beings and are generally forced to perform some sort of labor or other acts without adequate compensation. Black people were once slaves in the US and were forced to work on plantations, if you believe the Bible, the Jews were slaves to the Egyptians and were forced to build the pyramids and other monuments, modern sex slaves, are forced to have sex against their wills with others. So from these examples we see that SLAVES are a group of people who are owned and USED in various ways without adequate compensation for the things they are MADE to do. Now let's take a look at the fetus, something which just is, it exists, it's there and it's doing it's own thing. Biology is just happening and it takes nutrients and develops and grows. Eventually the woman carrying it will be forced by normal Biological behaviors to give birth unless she chooses to stop it by medical or surgical means or if she naturally miscarries. Considering all of this I just don't see how the slave analogy fits in anywhere. In fact if you want to deem anyone a SLAVE in this situation it would be the one being forced to do something they don't want to against their wills without adequate compensation (gestation, labor and childbirth). And even then I wouldn't call the woman a slave unless someone is forcing her to remain pregnant against her will which thankfully in this day and age in most progressive countries she may choose to end her pregnancy if she wants to. On the surface your analogy may seem perfect and unflawed, but please be prepared to have it picked apart tediously and shown for what it really is in the end. And what this slave analogy is is nothing more than complete and total bunk, not to mention demeaning to both women and to those who suffered real slavery.
You drag gun rights into this issue. You seem to be under the assumption that those of us who support abortion are also against the 2nd amendment? You would be extremely incorrect there. Also, thought I should note this but Margaret Sanger was in fact pro-life. http://www.redstate.com/2013/01/23/what-did-margaret-sanger-think-about-abortion/ I really have to laugh whenever pro-lifers bring up Margaret Sanger and demean her as some evil, pro-choice woman. The fact of the matter is that she was completely pro-life. lol
Access to safe legal abortion is right and moral.... now, whose "right and moral" is more important? Also, abortion has been around, legal and illegal, for thousands of years....how do you intend to stop it ?
Really don't care, but Norma McCorvey was pro life too after the left talked her into lying for them for their own political purpose. - - - Updated - - - It's not right and moral, it's murder.
The lying was her own idea. She became pro-life after she was brainwashed by Flip Benham (Operation Save America) for his own political purposes. Because you say so?
No because God says so. - - - Updated - - - There is no way to win this argument with the left. I've had my say, so do carry on with your tripe.
Don't know, don't care about Norma McCorvey. Your "morals and rights" don't trump mine You missed this question (or just ignored it because you have no answer): Also, abortion has been around, legal and illegal, for thousands of years....how do you intend to stop it ?
That's right (pun intended), post your phony propaganda and then instead of facing the truth, run. Doesn't look like you have much to back up your claims....
If you don't care then why are you bringing it up? - - - Updated - - - Which god? Also can you prove this god of yours exists? If not then it seems you have nothing.
Obviously not...the OP and her back up singer have skedaddled...., the truth is just too hard for some to face....
Apart fro the emotional BS of all the above, you do realize that Sanger was anti-abortion don't you .. in fact she would fit quite well into the ranks of pro-lifers. Now lets look at your nice pictures one by one. 1. No one is disputing that a single cell zygote is life, just as every single cell in our bodies is alive, so your first picture is just the usual crap 2. Couldn't careless about the number of guns you have, it is after all a right you have to keep and bear arms, just as it is a right for a woman to have body autonomy, so one has to question your arbitrary decisions when it comes to rights. 3. See above 4. Ah yes the old slavery analogy, fails every time, a pitiful attempt to align an act that most people find abhorrent with a medical procedure after all no one really wants to be associated with something as wrong as slavery do they .. they have names for this kind of thing, appeal to emotions - http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-emotion.html appeal to fear - http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-fear.html Strawman - http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html and then of course we have many black authorities who totally disagree with you - ignored by pro-lifers http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2013/11/12/abortion-is-not-like-slavery-so-stop-comparing-the-two/ this is the funniest of all of them, the fact that pro-lifers can lie and misrepresent what Sanger stood for only goes to show the gutter levels they will stoop to in order to enforce their option onto others. - - - Updated - - - Yet another emotional rigged attempt to force pro-life opinions down other people throats.
What is right and moral about forcing a person to do something against their will? Would you accept being forced to do something against your will, or would you scream about your rights?
Maybe we should dump the roe v wade verdict and allow congress to actually pass laws that regulate abortion? a court case precedent is not a law, its a verdict. We should let congress deal with the abortion issue instead of pretending a court case is actually result of legislation.
Thats total bs, total and complete made up crap. MARGARET SANGER QUOTES, Founder of the Birth Control League (which later became Planned Parenthood) "No woman shall have the legal right to bear a child… without a permit for parenthood." - Margaret Sanger (founder of Planned Parenthood) in her proposed The American Baby Code, intended to become law. "The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it." - Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1. Reprinted in Woman and the New Race. New York: Brentanos Publishers, 1922. "Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race." - Margaret Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12. "We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." Margaret Sanger's December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255 Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Original source: Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College, North Hampton, Massachusetts. Also described in Linda Gordon's Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America. New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976. "Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock." - Margaret Sanger, April 1933 Birth Control Review. "Eugenics is … the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems." - Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5. "Birth control itself, often denounced as a violation of natural law, is nothing more or less than the facilitation of the process of weeding out the unfit, of preventing the birth of defectives or of those who will become defectives." [no source available at this time...] "As an advocate of birth control I wish ... to point out that the unbalance between the birth rate of the 'unfit' and the 'fit,' admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization, can never be rectified by the inauguration of a cradle competition between these two classes. In this matter, the example of the inferior classes, the fertility of the feeble-minded, the mentally defective, the poverty-stricken classes, should not be held up for emulation.... On the contrary, the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective." - Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5. "The campaign for birth control is not merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical with the final aims of eugenics." Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5. "Our failure to segregate morons who are increasing and multiplying ... demonstrates our foolhardy and extravagant sentimentalism ... [Philanthropists] encourage the healthier and more normal sections of the world to shoulder the burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of others; which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead weight of human waste. Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant ... We are paying for, and even submitting to, the dictates of an ever-increasing, unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all." - Margaret Sanger. The Pivot of Civilization, 1922. Chapter on "The Cruelty of Charity," pages 116, 122, and 189. Swarthmore College Library edition. "The undeniably feeble-minded should, indeed, not only be discouraged but prevented from propagating their kind." - Margaret Sanger, quoted in Charles Valenza. "Was Margaret Sanger a Racist?" Family Planning Perspectives, January-February 1985, page 44. "Give dysgenic groups [people with 'bad genes'] in our population their choice of segregation or [compulsory] sterilization." - Margaret Sanger, April 1932 Birth Control Review. "As we celebrate the 100th birthday of Margaret Sanger, our outrageous and our courageous leader, we will probably find a number of areas in which we may find more about Margaret Sanger than we thought we wanted to know..." - Faye Wattleton, Past-president of Planned Parenthood Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood, proposed the Population Congress with the aim, "...to give certain dysgenic groups in our population their choice of segregation or sterilization."
