Abortionists killing babes after birth? Infanticide okay?

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  1. FoxHastings

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    The smoke, which was blown out of Anti-Choicer's butts , was investigated and PP was found not guilty...

    It has been rehashed and rehashed and NO Anti-Choicer has EVER provided actual proof that PP sold baby parts...they need to bring it up because they have no REAL argument...

    BTW, PP has NO "baby" parts.....
     
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    What TF does that have to do with PP NOT selling baby parts or anyone selling "baby" parts? Or abortion?

    NOTHING.
     
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    Here they go again MINIMIZING what the Jews endured by claiming it wasn't murder !!!!( AGREEING WITH THE NAZIS!!!!!)

    You and the Nazis may not have called it murder but the entire rest of the world did !!!!!



    The UNBORN have no rights.

    The BORN do.



    GET OVER IT! YOU LOST!

    In abortion the fetus dies a quick painless death and to compare that to the horrors of what Jews suffered is despicable!






    The most despicable act is to compare the horror, injustice, torture and death that Jews and slaves endured to the quick painless death of a fetus THUS DENIGRATING (OR DENYING !!!!!) WHAT JEWS and SLAVES ENDURED....A DEPLORABLE DESPICABLE THING TO DO..

    The total lack of respect for what slaves (mostly blacks) and Jews endured, to say it was nothing, is the sickest thing on the earth.....and says everything there is to know about those who do that...

    Fetuses are not and were not tortured, raped, murdered, ..they did not slave in a hot southern sun from dawn to dark with no compensation, they were not sold, they had NO grotesque experiments performed on them, they did not have all their property stolen from them, they were not starved, they were not beaten, they were not herded like animals into pens, they did NOT have their rights taken away, they were NOT declared non-humans , they did not FEEL the unbelievable pain that Jews and slaves endured.


    Slaves and Jews WERE forced to gestate, EXACTLY WHAT ANTI-CHOICERS WISH TO DO TO WOMEN.
     
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    Which was totally unrelated to what you claimed.
     
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    Im just saying abortionists get a huge discount when procuring baby parts. It's called the "Planned Parenthood employee discount"

    Deceased Illinois Doctor Found With 2,400 Sets of Fetal Remains Had Performed Over 50,000 Abortions

    When anti-abortion physician Geoffrey Cly met Klopfer in 2008 to discuss concerns that Klopfer’s procedures were endangering patients’ health, Klopfer immediately brought up the 1945 raids on Dresden, in which some 25,000 people died.

    “How is the suffering from the bombing by the Americans in Dresden any different than the suffering of women by unwanted babies?” Cly recalled Klopfer saying.

    Cly added: “I thought his abortions, how he kept the fetuses, might be unconscious revenge for the bombings.”

    It was a 1978 Chicago Sun-Times story that first raised questions publicly about Klopfer, recounting the competition between him and another doctor. A nurse told the newspaper that the other doctor tallied each abortion in pencil on his pant leg. If Klopfer saw lots of marks, he would go “like wildfire to catch up,” she said.

    So much for Godwin's law... LOL

    Link:
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    Watch every single video in its entirety. The proof is well documented. These are PP employees on video talking about selling body parts. This direct evidence. Its exactly like catching a thief on camera for positive identification. Video evidence is impossible to refute. The left claims the videos were heavily edited but that's another myth because you can watch every single video from start to finish, unedited on their website and you will still come to the same conclusion: PP sells body parts at a profit. Like I said, the left is in total damage control mode. They must protect their interests of killing babies at all costs.

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    http://www.centerformedicalprogress.org/cmp/investigative-footage/
     
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    UggaDUH, he wasn't SELLING anything...

    He was caught, there is a law against what he did ...WHAT TF more do you want??? He broke the law, there IS a law and he was caught and punished....WHAT TF is the problem??????



    AND it has NOTHING to do with PP or abortion rights or women's right to bodily autonomy or abortion ...it only has to do with HIS crime....



    Did you want him stoned to death? I think he may be already dead so don't be disappointed...
     
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    NO, I won't watch any of your biased, slanderous, fake videos.

    YOU provide PROOF from a legal authority that PP was guilty of selling "baby" parts (which they don't even HAVE...









    The smoke, which was blown out of Anti-Choicer's butts , was investigated and PP was found not guilty...

    It has been rehashed and rehashed and NO Anti-Choicer has EVER provided actual proof that PP sold baby parts...they need to bring it up because they have no REAL argument...

    BTW, PP has NO "baby" parts.....
     
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    He wasnt selling, thats true. All I'm saying is that he procured all of these dead babies and baby parts at wholesale cost or no cost at all via the PPEBPD or Planned Parenthood Employee Baby Parts Discount Program.

    Planned Parenthood has admitted in court to selling body parts:

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    As Liberty Counsel has pointed out, Merritt and Daleiden are the first undercover journalists to be criminally prosecuted in California history, indicating that the charges may have been politically motivated.

    The felony charges against the Center for Medical Progress have been pursued by pro-choice politicians, such as former California Attorney General Kamala Harris and current state Attorney General Xavier Becerra. Harris has received huge campaign donations from the abortion industry in the past, including more than $81,000 from Planned Parenthood and other abortion advocacy groups. As California’s attorney general, Harris chose not to investigate the illegal activities of Planned Parenthood. Instead, she had her office search Daleiden’s home to seize his laptop and the hard drives that contained video footage of his investigation.

    Doe 7, an abortionist, admitted to procuring fetal tissue from the abortions she performed at Planned Parenthood. She also confessed to being familiar with StemExpress. She testified that she was aware of cases where money had been exchanged as part of such transactions. It is worth noting that StemExpress and Planned Parenthood Northern California are both under ongoing FBI and U.S. Department of Justice investigation for selling fetal organs and tissue illegally.

    CMP’s tweets on Wednesday described the admissions from a Planned Parenthood abortion technician and a third-trimester abortionist who were being cross-examined at the hearing. In her testimony, one witness said she regularly procured fetal tissue from the abortions and had heard of financial transactions with the human tissue procurement lab, StemExpress.
     
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    Never-before-released undercover video shows Dr. Suzie Prabhakaran, the Vice President of Medical Affairs for Planned Parenthood of Southwest and Central Florida, graphically discussing Planned Parenthood’s late-term “dismemberment” and partial-birth abortion protocols in the context of fetal body part harvesting.

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    “I wanted you to meet Mary Gatter,” says Dr. Nucatola, before Dr. Gatter steps forward.

    Gatter was for many years the Medical Director of Planned Parenthood Los Angeles, before moving to the same position at the Pasadena affiliate, and then being elected President of Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s Medical Directors’ Council. As Medical Director at PPLA, Gatter oversaw the affiliate’s partnership with Novogenix Laboratories, LLC, a local for-profit fetal organ and tissue harvesting company.

    “I did it in LA, I’m committed to it, I think it’s a great idea,” says Gatter to the purported body parts buyers. Discussing the number of abortions at her Pasadena clinic, Gatter asks, “What kind of volume do you need and what gestational ages?”

    During the conversation, Gatter advises, “You know, you have to pay a little money to use the space.” After asking for a ballpark figure, the buyer observes, “Most people now seem to be doing per specimen.”

    “Per specimen. Like $75 a specimen?” Gatter replies. After the buyer asks for clarification, Gatter repeats, “$75 a specimen, or $50 a specimen?” The buyer replies, “What we’ve been quoting is $50 per specimen. I think some people are doing more, some slightly less.”

    Gatter then comments, “Yeah, $50’s on the low end, $50 [per specimen] was like 12 years ago.”

    The buyer then explains, “What we like about per-specimen is that way we’re not paying for [fetal] material that we can’t use, you know?” Gatter nods, saying, “Yeah yeah, yeah.”

    Federal law prohibits the purchase and sale of the organs and tissues themselves (42 U.S.C. 289g-2).

    The buyer continues, “If we can get a liver, a lung, and you know, a brain–” before Gatter interjects, “But you would show up to do this? You would send somebody,” to which the buyer answers affirmatively. Gatter concludes the conversation saying, “Yeah I’d be willing, give me a call.”
     
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    NONE of that proves Planned Parenthood knowingly sold fetal tissue nor approved of any sales ….

    Stem Express pays for shipping.



    NO one sold "baby parts"....:) as YOUR own post just showed :)


    Now PROVE there is a """ Planned Parenthood Employee Baby Parts Discount Program."""


    :roflol::roll: It's all make believe....
     
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    An oft debunked POS video that proves nothing....


    Here they go again MINIMIZING what the Jews endured by claiming it wasn't murder !!!!( AGREEING WITH THE NAZIS!!!!!)

    You and the Nazis may not have called it murder but the entire rest of the world did !!!!!




    The UNBORN have no rights.

    The BORN do.



    GET OVER IT! YOU LOST!

    In abortion the fetus dies a quick painless death and to compare that to the horrors of what Jews suffered is despicable!





    The most despicable act is to compare the horror, injustice, torture and death that Jews and slaves endured to the quick painless death of a fetus THUS DENIGRATING (OR DENYING !!!!!) WHAT JEWS and SLAVES ENDURED....A DEPLORABLE DESPICABLE THING TO DO..

    The total lack of respect for what slaves (mostly blacks) and Jews endured, to say it was nothing, is the sickest thing on the earth.....and says everything there is to know about those who do that...

    Fetuses are not and were not tortured, raped, murdered, ..they did not slave in a hot southern sun from dawn to dark with no compensation, they were not sold, they had NO grotesque experiments performed on them, they did not have all their property stolen from them, they were not starved, they were not beaten, they were not herded like animals into pens, they did NOT have their rights taken away, they were NOT declared non-humans , they did not FEEL the unbelievable pain that Jews and slaves endured.


    Slaves and Jews WERE forced to gestate, EXACTLY WHAT ANTI-CHOICERS WISH TO DO TO WOMEN.
     
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    There has been NO proof that Planned Parenthood has been convicted of selling fetal tissue.....and it was NEVER ever under suspicion of selling "BABY" parts as Anti-Choicers continually and erroneously claim...



    AND it has nothing to do with the topic, the OP.
     
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    OK, where is it?

    Where are the court records showing that Planned Parenthood sells baby parts and was CONVICTED of it ?

    WHERE TF is it???
     
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    The older the human resource from whence comes the organs harvested, the more valuable are the organs, at least up to a certain age. But of course, they're not talking about human resources in adolescence or adult prime. Yet, anyway.
     
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    CMP project lead David Daleiden notes, “The fact that Novogenix, StemExpress, and ABR stationed their own workers inside Planned Parenthood abortion clinics to perform the harvesting, packaging, and transport of aborted baby body parts demonstrates that Planned Parenthood had no reimbursable costs under the law. The volume-based sums that Planned Parenthood charged these businesses for baby parts are criminal trafficking and profiteering in fetal body parts. The U.S. Department of Justice should take heed of the Congressional investigations’ criminal referrals and prosecute Planned Parenthood to the full extent of the law, and taxpayers must stop being forced to subsidize Planned Parenthood’s criminal abortion empire.”

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    BUT it didn't.


    WHY didn't it?


    Where are the court records showing that Planned Parenthood sells baby parts and was CONVICTED of it ?

    WHERE TF is it???


    Planned Parenthood doesn't possess "baby parts"....so could not possibly have sold them.
     
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    They weren’t “selling” them it was cost recovery for foetal tissue for research
     
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    A Planned Parenthood abortionist was just forced to admit under oath in our trial that she did in fact say, “I want[] a Lamborghini,” in relation to “what I would receive in compensation” for “fetal tissue” procurement – i.e. aborted babies’ body parts.

    We recently told you how, despite their legal efforts to keep certain evidence out of court, Planned Parenthood’s own legal team has opened the door, and disturbing evidence continues to mount. Now, a Planned Parenthood abortionist is “prying” the door open even further (to use the judge’s words).
     
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    And they are the ones who were caught doctoring videos and have been charged with invasion of privacy

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Medical_Progress

    Good sources you have there

    Crims and cooks
     
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    Aaaaaannnnd there once again is no verification just a meme
     
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    In our lawsuit against Planned Parenthood, more troubling information has been revealed in the testimony of both a defendant and a Planned Parenthood abortionist.

    One of the defendants was asked to read an email received from one of the investigative journalists soon after a meeting with senior Planned Parenthood officials. The email was admitted into evidence and read directly to the jury. The contents of the email regarding Planned Parenthood’s practices are particularly disturbing.

    The email stated:

    “‘She . . . admitted PP (Planned Parenthood) knows the potential for illegality/unethics but has a don't-ask/don't-tell policy going so far as to choose to keep NOTHING in writing about fetal tissue because it's too dangerous.’

    ‘If something happens, they want the affiliates to take the fall. She admitted she converts fetuses to breech position in order to extract more intact and get better tissue, but believes this is not a change of procedure that would require further consent from the patient.’

    ‘This is the first 4 steps of a partial-birth abortion, and she described a skewed understanding of the PBA (Partial-birth Abortion) Ban Act.’”


    In other words, the witness explained, that if something happened:

    “they would blame it on just the local office or the local abortion facility, rather than imply that there was any national significance to it, such as from Planned Parenthood Federation of America. So that's pretty clear.”


    Further reading here:
    https://aclj.org/pro-life/more-dist...ood-abortionist-testifies-in-monumental-trial
     
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    LOL! More pure CRAP from a "Pro-Life" site ….


    NOT proof of anything.....:roflol:

    Where are the court records showing that Planned Parenthood sells baby parts and was CONVICTED of it ?

    WHERE TF is it???


    Planned Parenthood doesn't possess "baby parts"....so could not possibly have sold them.
     
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    Here is video proof of Deborah Nocatola stating multiple times that livers are in demand...


    Her name is Deborah Nucatola, Planned Parenthood director of medical research. She is on video saying this and the phase was NOT taken out of context.

    The Washington Post has more details:

    "Anti-abortion groups also said the callous nature of the discussion captured on film should tug at viewers’ consciences — particularly when Deborah Nucatola, Planned Parenthood’s senior director of medical research, apparently describes 'crushing' the fetus in ways that keep its internal organs intact, and her remarks about researchers’ desire for lungs and livers.

    'I’d say a lot of people want liver,' she says in the video posted on the Center for Medical Progress’s Web site, between bites of salad. 'And for that reason, most providers will do this case under ultrasound guidance, so they’ll know where they’re putting their forceps.'

    She continues: 'We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.'"

    . . . she also discusses how abortionists change their practices depending on which organs third parties want harvested, even waiting to do abortions later than they normally would if the baby has a genetic abnormality.
    She discusses how clinics have to pay to incinerate the butchered babies . . . unless they can get paid to harvest and transfer the body parts to a third-party.
    Nucatola admits that Planned Parenthood charges per-specimen for baby body parts, uses illegal partial-birth abortion procedures in order to get salable parts, and is aware of their own liability for doing so and takes steps to cover it up.
    The footage shockingly depicts the top medical official at the Planned Parenthood corporation munching on her salad while she discusses the sale of body parts of unborn children victimized by abortions. She brazenly describes how the heads of unborn babies killed in abortions command top dollar.
     
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    What do you not get? Planned Parenthood dismembers these babies for internal organ harvesting. We have it on video!

    There is no question these vile and barbaric practices occur. We have it on video!

    More facts on the table, much to the chagrin of our liberal counterparts

    In an unprecedented hearing in California this week featuring Planned Parenthood executives and the undercover videos made by the Center for Medical Progress, abortion doctors revealed uncomfortable truths about the industry. In one such testimony, Forrest Smith, an obstetrician-gynecologist who performed abortions in California, testified not only that Planned Parenthood and other abortion clinics were selling aborted baby parts for profit, but babies were often born alive, then murdered, in order to ensure the organs to be sold were more fresh and intact.

    Full source:
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-baby-parts-often-came-from-babies-born-alive
     

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