Abortionists killing babes after birth? Infanticide okay?

I will take a look at the thread tomorrow.

But I will say, the outcome of abortion is even more nasty. 60,000,000 dead is no small matter

 

And how many die each year cause the family do not have the resources to feed every child ?

 

And then you would have to prove the woman wasn't raped. Given that only 20 to 30% of rapes are reported, I'd say that would be a collective middle finger to you from women if you tried to force them to testify or submit to rape kits.

Again, the day YOU are raped and are impregnated is the day you get to decide how to handle that rape in your own life, otherwise, a giant middle finger to men who try to force women into what amounts to a second rape.

 

No I am not equating pro life with rape.


I am equating YOUR statement :

""" Iron_Merc said: ↑
Forcing women to carry the baby will be beneficial in so many ways"""""


with a rapist's love of using force against women...

 

Rapists don't think forcing women is a bad thing either.






Uh, women can and do get pregnant from rape.

Quit believing your Republican senators who think women "shut down" during rape so can't get pregnant....they are stupid, uniformed and wrong.



LOL YOU THOUGHT WOMEN COULDN'T GET PREGNANt IF THEY ARE RAPED.....
ADD THAT TO YOU GROWING LIST OF THINGS YOU CLAIM BUT NEVER PROVE






Hardly since women who get raped can become pregnant....


AND whether they can or can't, in rape they were FORCED to do something against their will

EXACTLY what you are proposing...forcing women to do something against their will.

No I am not equating pro life with rape.


I am equating YOUR statement :

""" Iron_Merc said: ↑
Forcing women to carry the baby will be beneficial in so many ways"""""


with a rapist's love of using force against women...

Unless they are raped...

AND THAT INCLUDES HAVING AN ABORTION IF SHE DOESN'T WANT TO BE PREGNANT.

AGAIN, you are falsely accusing me of saying something I never did BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO GOOD ARGUMENT.

Translation : I hate Democrats and women have no rights as humans …







Meanwhile : PAY ATTENTION ....women go on exercising their right to have as much sex as they want and have abortions when they need to. ...without YOUR permission or participation LOLOLOOLOLOLL

 

If one makes an exception for rape then it is clear that it is NOT the "precious life of the fetus" they care about.

It is ONLY about punishing women for having consensual sex by forcing them to gestate.

 

So you have been "only doing this abortion stuff for about three months" .


So then why don't you read what posters have to say about it instead of diving in with old , trite, debunked crap you got from biased Anti-Women's rights sites ?


You are considering "no exceptions"?

So if a woman is raped and becomes pregnant you would want her punished for the rest of her life through forced pregnancy because she was raped ????

Even rapists don't get life sentences...

 

You are going a little overboard with this whole rape thing.

This is just another way to say if abortion is outlawed, women will benefit immensely. For starters, they wont be killers. LOL

 

Its a very difficult issue for me. I want to preserve life as much as possible but we also have to understand that rape leading to pregnancy is NOT what the mother wanted. We need to respect her rights above the rights of the unborn in that situation. Regardless, an infant may have to pay the price for someone else's offense, and that breaks my heart. But for now, i would still make the exception for rape and incest. And those would be very tightly controlled.

I am learning from you guys and I've tried to keep an open mind. I just understand this issue from a different perspective, a different world view. And our views clash because we are polar opposites politically speaking. And I will say I've picked up some valuable information over the past 4 months (I was out of politics for years prior to this). I don't like how you label these sites as anti women and No they have not been debunked, especially the videos from the Center for Medical progress. I dont like how you reject their vidoes outright.

Also note our country is in a grave condition right now. We are riding a very fine line between chaos and law and order.

 

Do these rules of yours include women caught by men ““Stealthing”.

 

Stealthing would be punishable by an internship at your local planned parenthood(before its shut down for good). Specifically, they would be in charge of collecting pieces of the dismembered baby and putting them back together to make sure no baby parts are left in the womb.

I bet that would change their mind real quick about abortion.
Its a sad commentary that i cannot show you guys pictures of what abortion does to these defenseless little babies. Its sick and you dont want to know.

 

I have witnessed abortions. I am betting what you are picturing is a late term abortion NOT the most common form which is done in the first few weeks



I have also seen children who are neglected, beaten, starved and recently here, boiled alive in a hot car. Give me solutions for saving these living breathing humans and I might listen about the potential ones

 

I dont get the reasoning. Are you saying that until child suffering and hardship is completely lifted from society, abortion is a lost cause? How does that work? I need to know your angle before I can respond...

With abortion you are carelessly disregarding the respect for your own child. Wonder, if babies in spirit could talk they would probably tell a harrowing tale about their last moments alive. If they could vote, Im sure each and everyone of them would pick life.

Nobody chooses death over life. Or, if you do, you must seriously question your motives in society. Remember, its Life liberty and pursuit of happiness!

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
I am equating YOUR statement :

""" Iron_Merc said: ↑
Forcing women to carry the baby will be beneficial in so many ways"""""


with a rapist's love of using force against women...

No, the one going overboard is the one who thinks FORCING women to do things against their will is good.....the same way rapists think..

If women will benefit greatly from losing their right to bodily autonomy then why not take away EVERYONE'S right to their own body and they can all enjoy the "benefits".


. Ya, I know, that's yet ANOTHER question you won't answer.

For finishers they aren't killers now...


Why haven't you done your civic duty as a good citizen and called the police on all these killers?

Yet ANOTHER question you won't answer...

 

oh so it’s ok if she doesn’t want her rapists child then it’s ok for her to have an abortion. Then I guess it would be ok to kill her 2 year old toddler because it was the product of a rape. Obviously you don’t really see a ZEF as a child .

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
So you have been "only doing this abortion stuff for about three months" .


So then why don't you read what posters have to say about it instead of diving in with old , trite, debunked crap you got from biased Anti-Women's rights sites ?


You are considering "no exceptions"?

So if a woman is raped and becomes pregnant you would want her punished for the rest of her life through forced pregnancy because she was raped ????

Even rapists don't get life sentences...

WHY only in that situation?

You want to lean? Well, learn THIS:

An abortion due to rape is the EXACT SAME PROCEDURE and OUTCOME as an abortion due to consensual sex.

So if you approve of one but not the other then clearly that means you want to punish women who had consensual sex by taking away their rights and forcing them to gestate..

There is NO "infant" involved in abortion......I thought you wanted to learn???

NO one but you is responsible for your heartache...

So the fetus due to rape is "lesser" somehow than one due to consensual sex???

How does that work?

They are now.

WHAT have you learned...you have just repeated the same old crap every Anti-Choicer does...

Oh, that's so dramatic but this country has always had chaos AND law and order.

And the LAW says EVERYONE, including women, have a right to their own bodies.

Take away the right to bodily autonomy and you WILL see chaos...

 

Remember: WOMEN also have a right to Life,Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.....not just you...

 

So what have you learned?

And an "open mind" ? Your OP would disprove that.

 

I have - I've actually called the police on the local PP here. The police cant do anything, they are sold out to higher interests and that does not include uncovering murder at their local Planned Parenthood.

You see abortions are performed under the guise of "healthcare" and behind closed doors, so there is no way to know. They could kill the baby after birth and nobody would know. They could simply write down "late term abortion" or something to that effect.

The baby gets murdered by the abortionists regardless of age and thats exactly the way the left wants it to be. Wonderful morals, thats for sure!

 

obviously you fail to make the distinction. Sorta like the cause vs manner of death. Sure the person is dead all the same, but we need to know WHY they died to properly understand the situation. Same logic applies to abortion. It's not about the medical procedure being the same it's about why they ended up needing an abortion in the first place.

 

No I'm serious. The nation isn't long for this world. Trump is the last hope for humanity, but you wont understand this until its too late.

 

Ya, right, police have all "sold out" and no longer respond to murder accusations. Hilarious.

NO, they respond to "breaking the law" which abortions don't do....

Most health care is done behind closed doors, it's no one's business but the patients and the doctors....No one's medical records are open to the public.

Who is this mysterious "they" ? Couldn't you point them out to the police?

In real life the police DO investigate accusations of murder...….but abortion isn't murder so they probably just laughed at you.

As usual YOU HAVE NO PROOF ANY "BABIES" WERE MURDERED.

IF you did the police would investigate.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
An abortion due to rape is the EXACT SAME PROCEDURE and OUTCOME as an abortion due to consensual sex.

So it isn't the fetus you are concerned with....????? It sure seems you WERE....

It's that women must justify to YOU why they have an abortion.....control issue ???



So you have been "only doing this abortion stuff for about three months" .


So then why don't you read what posters have to say about it instead of diving in with old , trite, debunked crap you got from biased Anti-Women's rights sites ?


You are considering "no exceptions"?

So if a woman is raped and becomes pregnant you would want her punished for the rest of her life through forced pregnancy because she was raped ????

Even rapists don't get life sentences...

 

Too dramatic !!!....and funny!

 

you’re too emotional and can only see zygotes as living children.