About the Holocaust

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  1. Grau

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    In other words if you don't blindly believe any lie fabricated by the Holocaust Industry, you hate Jews?


    Really?
     
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    Nobody knows exactly how many Germans were murdered by the Allies and I only cited a source that cited the number was between 9 and 15 million but that's not the topic of this thread.

    The reason that nobody knows the exact number is that nobody has bothered to investigate Eisenhower's real "death camps" because the victors don't investigate their own crimes and the fraudulent Holocaust Industry (1), (2) was and remains too busy extorting money and brainwashing gullible rubes with outright lies.

    What is salient to this thread is the fact that Allied propagandists, the Holocaust Industry and its complicit MSM has grossly inflated the number and causes of deaths in the German work camps for which countless innocent Germans were murdered in Soviet style "show trials".

    Additionally, you've claimed that "millions of Jews" were murdered in an industrialized manner in these work camps but over the pages of this thread, I've disproved both of those false assertions and others promulgated by the Holocaust Industry and its disciples.

    So, please quit evading the fact that far fewer than 300,000 (3) died in these camps and that their deaths were primarily due to disease and natural causes.

    Prove your claims and show us where the evidence is that "millions of Jews" died in German run work camps in homicidal gas chambers etc.

    Please stop evading this on-topic, salient question and quit trying to obfuscate the fact that fewer than 300,000 people of all backgrounds died primarily of typhus & related diseases in the German work camps.(3)




    (1)"17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

    EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


    (2)"HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED


    (3) "INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS (IRC) DOCUMENT CONFIRMS 271 THOUSAND NOT 6 MILLION DIED IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS"
    https://archive.org/details/auschwitz_201905

    EXCERPTS:

    "OFFICIAL INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS RECORDS RELEASED

    Sealed and guarded since the end of WWII at Arolsen, Germany, the Official IRC records reveal the actual Concentration Camp total death toll was 271,301

    For years, people around the world – “the West” in particular – have been told that “six million Jews were systematically murdered by Germans in ‘Concentration Camps’ during World War 2.”

    Thousands of honest people disputing this claim have been viciously smeared as a hateful anti-Semite. Several countries around the world have jailed and heavily fined people for disputing the claim that “6 Million” Jews were killed.

    Red Cross and East German government figures put the total deaths at every camp as 272.000, and 282,000 respectively which includes homosexuals, communists, gypsies, murderers, paedophiles etc. The 6 Million figure is a Kabbalist number, a magickal figure which featured in news papers in the early 1900’s." CONTINUED
     
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    [QUOTE="pitbull, post: 1073076562, member: 78342"

    That there are not many human remains can be explained. .[/QUOTE]


    Re:
    For years I've been trying to get anyone who believes the fraudulent holocaust narrative to explain how millions of people could have been killed in Germany's WW 2 work camps yet only a few human remains can be found.

    Even a thorough cremation would leave bones and teeth(1) but no significant amount of either has been discovered in any of the German run work camps.(2), (3), (4).

    Because the Allies had complete control of the skies later during the war and the Germans were low on petrol and other resources, it would have been both impractical and impossible for the Germans to haul the remains away without detection.

    So, why are there so few remains at any of the German work camps if millions were killed there?


    (1) "9 Things About Cremation"
    https://www.elementalnw.com/2014/05/26/9-things-cremation/

    EXCERPT "2. You don’t get ash back. What’s really returned to you is the person’s skeleton. Once you burn off all the water, soft tissue, organs, skin, hair, cremation container/casket, etc., what you’re left with is bone.


    (2) “Treblinka: Revealing the hidden graves of the Holocaust”
    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16657363

    EXCERPT “Despite this, in a later statement they said they had discovered no mass graves.” CONTINUED


    (3) “Treblinka Ground Radar Examination Finds No Trace of Mass Graves”
    https://www.historiography-project.com/jhrchives/v19/v19n3p20_radar.php

    EXCERPT “A detailed forensic examination of the site of the wartime Treblinka camp, using sophisticated electronic ground radar, has found no evidence of mass graves there.” CONTINUED


    (4) “Air Photo Evidence”
    http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndaerial.html

    EXCERPT

    The Bottom Line

    "To this day there is no air photo evidence to support the alleged mass murder of the Jews at any location in Europe occupied by the Germans during World War Two. Further, air photo analysis refutes the claim that the 'Nazis' had intended, at whatever time, to keep events in the alleged extermination camps secret. In many cases the air photos provide clear proof that some of the events attested to by witnesses, such as the destruction of the Hungarian Jews or the mass executions at Babi Yar, did not in fact take place. We may hope that the release of Soviet air photos dating from the time the camps were in operation will shed further light on these issues. The fact that these photos have not been published to date may already speak for itself. That the photos in western hands were altered in order to incriminate Germany, and were first published by the CIA, is also very significant indeed." CONTINUED


    So, if "millions of Jews" died in German work camps, where are the remains.
     
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    WRONG AGAIN


    Many years ago I read a copy of the Wannsee Meeting minutes in the original German. One of its more noteworthy statements was that there were no more than 4.5 Jews under under German control at that time when the 3rd Reich was at its height.(1) One of the reasons it was noteworthy is that it contradicted the mythical "6 million Jews" figure so widely promulgated by the fraudulent Holocaust Industry and shows the impossibility of 9 million Jews ever being under German control.

    It is important to remember that not all of Europe's Jews were interred in German work camps. Most never set foot inside a German work camp while some were even high ranking members of the Nazi Party(2) and about 150,000 others served in Germany's military with some rising to Germany's highest ranks and earning Germany's highest honors(3)

    What was also noteworthy about the Wannsee Meeting's minutes is there was absolutely no mention of a genocidal agenda, "mass executions", homicidal gas chambers or other grisly fictions attributed to the "evil" Germans.

    So, an honest and accurate translation of the Wannsee Meeting minutes is simply additional proof that there was no genocidal German agenda to kill off Europe's Jewish community via homicidal gas chambers, a "newly invented vaporizer"(4), electrocution chambers(5) or other fictitious means fabricated by Allied and Holocaust Industry propagandists who have worked with Hollywood(6) up to this day to effectively deceive so many people.



    (1) "The Wannsee Conference: Another Lie Crushed"
    http://barnesreview.org/the-wannsee-conference-another-lie-crushed/

    EXCERPT "The actual minutes of the Wannsee Conference can be read in their entirety—in the original German here,

    In reality, the Wannsee meeting and its minutes do not contain a master plan to kill Jews;

    – Nowhere in the meeting’s minutes is genocide discussed, planned, proposed, or even suggested;

    – The Wannsee meeting never discussed gas chambers, shootings, or any of the fantasies propagated by the exterminationists;

    – The Wannsee Minutes reported that there were only 4.5 million Jews under German control (yet 4.3 million Jewish compensation claims have been lodged against the postwar German government);

    – The Wannsee meeting was a planning meeting on how Europe’s Jews should be deported, via transit camps, to the East; with able-bodied Jews being forced to build roads and other labor intensive tasks in those regions;" CONTINUED


    (2) “List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

    EXCERPT “Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of full and partial Jewish descent. “ CONTINUED


    (3) “Hitler’s Jewish Army”
    http://counterpsyops.com/2013/02/14/...-hitlers-army/

    EXCERPT “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s knowledge and approval.

    In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded(*)Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.

    Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police(Ordnungdienst)(*)and concentration camp guards(*)(kapos).

    So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?

    “If the Jews were permitted to serve in Hitler’s armed forces then there could not have been a Holocaust.”CONTINUED


    (4) "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"
    http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

    EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales."CONTINUED


    (5) "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
    https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

    EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED


    (6) "The Hollywood Directors Who Filmed the Liberation of Nazi Concentration Camps"
    https://hyperallergic.com/426644/lamoth-filming-the-camps-the-holocaust/

    EXCERPT "George Stevens, John Ford, and Samuel Fuller, best known for their work in Hollywood, all documented the Allied liberation at the end of the war.

    But during this period of war, they were acting less as artists than as functionaries of US propaganda and information efforts, working for the US Armed Forces and Secret Services.CONTINUED
     
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    Not true. There's pretty much evidence. Nobody has to have faith in the Holocaust. :)

    It's not the money. The big problem is the family liability that is imposed on the Germans. Grandpa was Hitler's hitman. It's a fact. But why should the Germans of today feel sorry for that? Nobody can change the past.
     
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    Special Operation 1005 might be the reason.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderaktion_1005

    Nazis might be cruel, ruthless, and sometimes sadistic. But they weren't stupid. They knew their crimes would be investigated after they lost the war.
     
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    Re:
    That's all I've asked for in my previous Post # 2653 and dozens of others when I wrote:

    "For years I've been trying to get anyone who believes the fraudulent holocaust narrative to explain how millions of people could have been killed in Germany's WW 2 work camps yet only a few human remains can be found."

    Even if the tiny Special Operation 1005 that only operated a short period of time burned all the bodies the Germans are supposed to have killed, there would still be unmistakable mountains of. bones and teeth at all the work camps but they simply aren't so there weren't any "industrialized mass murders" with "lines to the gas chamber

    That means that countless innocent German soldiers and civilians were executed and remain persecuted for crimes they did not commit.
    It feels like you're hating on people who are no worse than any other nationality, ethnic or religious group.
    Why?

    Re:
    If it's not the money, why, then, is no amount of money ever enough?

    Re:
    Why do holocaustians think that every German WW 2 Veteran is a war criminal?
    I think that it's because what most Westerners "know" about WW 2 and the holocaust, they learned via Hollywood and a grossly bias MSM.
     
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    Wikipedia is using a fake photo claiming to be a "secret photo" taken by an inmate in the source you cited in order to deceive those not familiar with it.

    If Wikipedia is willing to deceive you with fake photos they claim was a "secret photo", what else are they lying about?



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    "Holocaust Fake pics 1"
    http://lovkap.blogspot.com/2014/09/holocaust-fake-pics-1.html


    EXCERPT
    "This supposed secret shot with a “smuggled camera” is said to show body burning at Auschwitz, because the numbers of claimed gassing dead were so impossible for the crematoria (actually used for the day-to-day dead of a 100,000 camp).

    It’s really a combination print of at least three photos: One, the window where a Jew Kapo snapped the shot “secretly” and two, a newspaper negative stolen from a 1912 train wreck in Dresden, Ohio, showing rescue people, along with a few real dead victims of the accident. Three, added figures and bodies were spliced in for effect (with obvious retouching — see the crude “spaghetti woman”). The final montage print itself was then re-shot on a copy stand to aid in the fakery." CONTINUED
     
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    Wikipedia sometimes has mistakes, but Holocaust deniers always lie on purpose. That's a small but important difference.

    8 people died in the 1912 Pennsylvania train crash, but the Auschwitz photo shows several dozens of corpses.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1912/12/04/...d-crash-woman-and-her-two-children-among.html
     
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    Most war crimes of WW2 have little to do with the Holocaust. The Holocaust was a type of ethnic cleansing carried out by special forces. Regular soldiers usually weren't involved. If so, they were lied to about having to shoot spies and partisans.

    But there's another problem. Germany's Wehrmacht had to fight for a bad leader who hated almost all of humanity. That's the greatest tragedy of that time. It makes almost every German soldier a war criminal and Germany a secondary victim of war. :(
     
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    They fall for the Gish Gallop and then repeat it themselves. They have no good arguments, so they just make as many bad arguments as they can. It takes them less effort to make this **** up than it takes us to debunk it, so they just throw as many arguments as they can against the wall, all of them worthless, and just claim victory when you can't address all of them in a finite amount of time.
     
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    Perhaps you can explain why are there so few remains at any of the German work camps if millions were killed there?

    Please see my earlier Post # 2653

    This is not just an academic exercise as thousands of innocent Germans were executed in Soviet style show "trials" for crimes they did not and could not have committed.
     
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    Ashes are very, very easy to dispose of. Perhaps you can explain why there so many eye witnesses to the Holocaust, including Germans who weren't facing any kind of charges? This is not just an academic exercise as millions of Jews were killed by the Nazis.
     
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    You're right, ashes are traceable but easy to dispose of.

    However, even after a lengthy muffle (oven) cremation both bones and teeth remain(1) and after outdoor mass cremation even more noticeable human remains are still left over in addition to bones and teeth.

    It is claimed by the same fraudulent Holocaust Industry that about 850,000 people were killed at Treblinka yet 2 thorough and separate searches using GPR (Ground Penetrating Radar) and other tools found no mass graves(2), (3).

    Meanwhile, Air Photo evidence also refutes the myths that accuse the Germans of having a genocidal agenda(4).

    Re:
    I hope you can see the contradictory nature of your question. A true genocide doesn't leave "so many eyewitnesses" about 80 years after its conclusion.

    In addition to living, studying and working in what was then West Germany, I've known and / or lived with holocaust survivors, German WW 2 Veterans & civilians who survived the war as well as Allied WW. 2 Veterans. None of them made any mention of a genocidal agenda, homicidal gas chambers or any of the other fraudulent myths so typical in holocaust lore. (5), (6).

    I think that it's also important to remember that Germany's work camps were not just for innocent political prisoners but also for Germany's pedophiles, spies, rapists, murders, thieves, and skilled con artists.

    I fully realize that many innocent people of various backgrounds were unjustly persecuted just as I realize that near the end of the war, Germany's work camps were miserable places due to their inability to resupply the camps with food and medicine.

    I even knew one Russian holocaust survivor who had been captured by several armies and because she spoke several languages was valuable to her captors. She was not at all reluctant to admit that of all the different military nationalities, the Germans treated her the best.

    Thanks,


    (1) "9 Things About Cremation"
    https://www.elementalnw.com/2014/05/26/9-things-cremation/

    EXCERPT "2. You don’t get ash back. What’s really returned to you is the person’s skeleton. Once you burn off all the water, soft tissue, organs, skin, hair, cremation container/casket, etc., what you’re left with is bone.


    (2) “Treblinka: Revealing the hidden graves of the Holocaust”
    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16657363

    EXCERPT “Despite this, in a later statement they said they had discovered no mass graves.” CONTINUED


    (3) “Treblinka Ground Radar Examination Finds No Trace of Mass Graves”
    https://www.historiography-project.com/jhrchives/v19/v19n3p20_radar.php

    EXCERPT “A detailed forensic examination of the site of the wartime Treblinka camp, using sophisticated electronic ground radar, has found no evidence of mass graves there.” CONTINUED


    (4) “Air Photo Evidence”
    http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndaerial.html

    EXCERPT

    The Bottom Line

    "To this day there is no air photo evidence to support the alleged mass murder of the Jews at any location in Europe occupied by the Germans during World War Two. Further, air photo analysis refutes the claim that the 'Nazis' had intended, at whatever time, to keep events in the alleged extermination camps secret. In many cases the air photos provide clear proof that some of the events attested to by witnesses, such as the destruction of the Hungarian Jews or the mass executions at Babi Yar, did not in fact take place. We may hope that the release of Soviet air photos dating from the time the camps were in operation will shed further light on these issues. The fact that these photos have not been published to date may already speak for itself. That the photos in western hands were altered in order to incriminate Germany, and were first published by the CIA, is also very significant indeed." CONTINUED


    (5)“Holocaust - Survivors who Tell the Truth”
    https://archive.org/details/Holocaust-SurvivorsWhoTellTheTruth


    (6) “Dozens & Dozens of the Most Outrageous Tales of the Holocaust”
    http://wolfgangrudolf.blogspot.com/2016/12/dozens-dozens-of-most-outrageous-tales.html

    EXCERPTS:
    • Moshe Peer's astounding Holy Shoah tale - Gassed six times by the Nazis and survived!! - Claims people were murdered in gas chambers at Bergen-Belsen

    • William Lowenberg's astounding Holocaust tale - Had a magic thirst-quenching pebble, did not drink water, survived on his saliva for 3 years

    • Yankel Wiernik's Holotale - Babies torn in half, woman leaps 10 ft barbed-wire fence, guards nail inmates' ears to walls, jews roasted on giant outdoor hibachis

    • Testimony from the Eichmann Trial by Leon Wells - Dug up and burned bodies, used bone-grinding machine, ate lunch on top of corpses

    • Irene Zisblatt's incredible Holocaust tale- Ate and retrieved diamonds from feces, had 2 post-sterilization children, weighed 40 lbs when liberated

    • Rivka Yosselevska's absurd Holocaust fable - Escaped biting jew corpses, witnessed geysers of blood” CONTINUED
     
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    no but this forum is filled with some very hateful anti-Jewish comments by Holocaust Deniers.

    so, connect the dots.
     
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    LOL!!!

    hilariously false.

    :p
     
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    If oyu starft from the assumption that all holocaust deniers are anti-semites you will be closer to the truth than any holocaust denier ever gets. The small number who aren't virulent anti-semites are willing to help them tell lies to vilify Jews and help cover up Nazi mass murder, which is no better.
     
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    Most of these lies, like roller coasters and steam chambers, are fabricated by HC deniers themselves. Look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring
     
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    I dare you to show even one comment in which I or anyone else has denied that the holocaust happened.

    The term "Holocaust Denier" is a fraudulent misnomer fabricated by holocaustian cheerleader D. Lipstadt to misrepresent the views of people bright enough to see that the standard holocaust narrative is physically and scientifically impossible.

    For example, I have repeatedly shown that both the Red Cross and the former East German government state that no more than about 280,000 people died in all the German run work camps(1)

    Another inconvenient fact is that even a total cremation still leaves bones and teeth. Open air, mass cremations would leave even more evidence but no mass graves containing anywhere near "millions" have been found at Treblinka or any of the other German work camps(2), (3), (4).

    So, if "millions" were murdered in these "death camps", where are the remains?

    You see, rejecting bigoted anti German propaganda has nothing to do with anti Semitism. It is just a willingness to see through the lies of the fraudulent Holocaust Industry (5), (6) and residual Allied propaganda to get at the truth about this tragic era.

    So, I'll ask you the same question I've asked other participants in this thread who continue to evade this one simple question. If "millions" were killed in "death camps", where are the remains?




    (1) "INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS (IRC) DOCUMENT CONFIRMS 271 THOUSAND NOT 6 MILLION DIED IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS"
    https://archive.org/details/auschwitz_201905

    EXCERPTS:

    "OFFICIAL INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS RECORDS RELEASED

    Sealed and guarded since the end of WWII at Arolsen, Germany, the Official IRC records reveal the actual Concentration Camp total death toll was 271,301

    For years, people around the world – “the West” in particular – have been told that “six million Jews were systematically murdered by Germans in ‘Concentration Camps’ during World War 2.”

    Thousands of honest people disputing this claim have been viciously smeared as a hateful anti-Semite. Several countries around the world have jailed and heavily fined people for disputing the claim that “6 Million” Jews were killed.

    Red Cross and East German government figures put the total deaths at every camp as 272.000, and 282,000 respectively which includes homosexuals, communists, gypsies, murderers, paedophiles etc. The 6 Million figure is a Kabbalist number, a magickal figure which featured in news papers in the early 1900’s." CONTINUED


    (2) “Treblinka: Revealing the hidden graves of the Holocaust”
    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16657363

    EXCERPT “Despite this, in a later statement they said they had discovered no mass graves.” CONTINUED


    (3) “Treblinka Ground Radar Examination Finds No Trace of Mass Graves”
    https://www.historiography-project.com/jhrchives/v19/v19n3p20_radar.php

    EXCERPT “A detailed forensic examination of the site of the wartime Treblinka camp, using sophisticated electronic ground radar, has found no evidence of mass graves there.” CONTINUED


    (4) “Air Photo Evidence”
    http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndaerial.html

    EXCERPT

    The Bottom Line

    "To this day there is no air photo evidence to support the alleged mass murder of the Jews at any location in Europe occupied by the Germans during World War Two. Further, air photo analysis refutes the claim that the 'Nazis' had intended, at whatever time, to keep events in the alleged extermination camps secret. In many cases the air photos provide clear proof that some of the events attested to by witnesses, such as the destruction of the Hungarian Jews or the mass executions at Babi Yar, did not in fact take place. We may hope that the release of Soviet air photos dating from the time the camps were in operation will shed further light on these issues. The fact that these photos have not been published to date may already speak for itself. That the photos in western hands were altered in order to incriminate Germany, and were first published by the CIA, is also very significant indeed." CONTINUED


    (5) "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

    EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED



    (6)"HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED
     
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    WRONG AGAIN


    No, homicidal steam, electrocution and gas chambers were very much a part of Allied propaganda along with the fake human skin pocketbooks, shrunken heads, fake human fat soap etc.

    Additionally:

    "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
    https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

    EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED

    AND:


    “Auschwitz: Myths and Facts”
    http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

    EXCERPT “Allied Propaganda

    The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. [15] CONTINUED

    15. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT "green series," Vol. 8, p. 606.
     
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    This thread is even more full of hateful lies about what the "evil" Germans did.

    I've repeatedly asked you to show where more than about 280,000 people were killed in all the German work camps yet you continue to demonstrate a complete inability to do so.
    Meanwhile, even Arno Mayer admits that far more camp inmates died of disease and natural causes than were executed.

    Please stop evading this salient issue and show us where the remains of "millions" are.

    Also, remember that even a complete cremation leaves bones and teeth:


    "9 Things About Cremation"
    https://www.elementalnw.com/2014/05/26/9-things-cremation/

    EXCERPT "2. You don’t get ash back. What’s really returned to you is the person’s skeleton. Once you burn off all the water, soft tissue, organs, skin, hair, cremation container/casket, etc., what you’re left with is bone."CONTINUED
     
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    I've already proven that Wikipedia uses fake photos and lies about the holocaust.

    Can you disprove what the sources I've provided claim?

    Where has IHR lied about anything?
     
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    That's wrong. Most of this stuff comes from HC deniers themselves. They're professional liars.
     

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