Actually, the real Covington scandal was that Catholic boys were wearing MAGA hats

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    First of all, I'm not a Catholic. I'm an atheist. But I did attend a Catholic High School.

    Trump was excommunicated by the Pope (yes.... the Pope can excommunicate non-christians, accoridng to Catholic Canon Law.... more later). And the Catholic students wearing MAGA hats are required to shun him. That's the real scandal.

    When Pope Francis traveled to Mexico in 2016, he was asked about Trump's plans to build a wall The Pope declared that Trump was "not a Christian". Thereby applying public excommunication (ferendæ sententiæ). http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05678a.htm

    The Pope is not required to promulgate a decree. Saying it in public is enough. And anybody who violates it, is automatically guilty because of the fact itself of having violated it. This is excommunication "ad jure".

    In Catholic Canon Law, the distinction between public an private excommunication is relevant. First of all, only the Pope can perform the former. But once somebody is publicly excommunicated, the Constitution "Apostolicæ Sedis" (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01645a.htm) indicates that it is the obligation of every Catholic to shun the apostate. And if they don't, they themselves are subject to excommunication ad jure.

    As for Trump not being Catholic. That means excommunication makes no difference to Trump. But it does to the kids wearing MAGA hats, if they are Catholics. According to Catholic Law, anybody who is baptized can be excommunicated. All Christians are considered Catholic in Canon Law.

    The Catholic Encyclopedia explains it

    "....all who have been baptized are liable to excommunication, even those who have never belonged to the true Church, since by their baptism they are really her subjects, though of course rebellious ones. Moreover, the Church excommunicates not only those who abandon the true faith to embrace schism or heresy, but likewise the members of heretical and schismatic communities who have been born therein. As to the latter, however, it is not question of personal excommunication; the censure overtakes them in their corporate capacity, as members of a community in revolt against the true Church of Jesus Christ."
    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05678a.htm
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The pope is a leftist. The boys can wear any hat they damn well please.

    Give it up.

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  3. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    Good stuff, Golem.

    Thanks for pointing that out.

    Imagine a kid from a Catholic School wearing a MAGA Hat?

    Their only excuse can be "I didn't know any better".
     
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    A lot of Catholics like Trump more than this Pope.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Guess the Pope isn’t Catholic either. Ever see the big beautiful wall of the Vatican.
     
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    Where is your outrage about this leftist? Are you still a fan of Sharia?

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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Or. I am not a snowflake.
     
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    :roflol:

    Your only attempt at "rebuttal" involves SPAMMING yet another Lame RW BS Meme?:bored:

    Thanks for the laughs. Keep 'em coming.

    Anyway, MAGA Hats are the new Swatstikas.

    You certainly have every right to your opinion.

    Carry on.:salute:
     
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    Fascinating.

    Smirkergate is yielding more in a few days than Mueller has managed in two years.
     
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    I'm an Atheist, but clearly protestantism is the only viable Christian route at this point. The papacy is a joke, if I were a Christian I'd likely think Francis was the prophecised Antichrist.
     
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    How Trump's 32% sees the little smirker:



    How the rest of the country - and most of the world - sees the little smirker:

     
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    Spot on Mr. A.D. You nailed it.

    Great Stuff. Bravo.:applause:
     
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    Of course they can! But then they can't come back saying they represent Catholic beliefs.... Like the Catholic opposition to abortion. But, of course, we all know they came to Washington to try to score with the red-head girl with the crucifix around her neck. It's the only thing we ALL thought about when we were in Catholic School. We couldn't care less about abortion, or condoms, or Sunday Service.....
     
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    So what kind of contrition we talking here? how many Hail Marys once those heinous malefactors confess wearing a MAGA hat to their priests?
     
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    Yeah.... And you think they built it to keep them Mexicuns away, right?
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    Nope! As I have shown above, they have probably been excommunicated ad jure. So they may no longer be Catholics. They just don't know it yet.
     
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    you could make a rope with all those straws you’re grasping.
     
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    Walls work. Ask the Pope.
     
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    The kid's supporters are wondering if that was just a great Flash Mob YouTube video..
     
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    Yep, the scandal was definitely due to their hats. The fake news media scandal never would have occurred if they couldn't somehow blame Trump.
     
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    One thing is certain. The hysterical left will threaten children and think it is OK.
     
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    Oh? In that case you shouldn't have any problem showing one. But before you do that, do read my sig. And then proceed... at your own peril.
     
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    So? You consider warning them that the beliefs they state they hold, would imply they are going to hell... a threat?

    Putting it that way, it does kinda sound like a threat. But remember: the whole concept of Catholicism is based on that "threat"
     
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    Are the kids even Catholic? Non Catholic kids go to Catholic school all the time. Would the kids be blamed if a KKK demonstrator harassed kids wearing 0bama gear? The kids did nothing wrong and the school apparently didn't have a policy of no political clothing since I saw several with MAGA clothing waiting for the bus. Conservatives have free speech also.
     
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    The beliefs they state? Elaborate.
     

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