Adam Kinzinger warns against equating Trump with Christ

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  1. Jiminy

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    Adam Kinzinger warns that some Christians now 'equate Donald Trump with the person of Jesus Christ,' calls out pastors who support Trumpism
    https://www.businessinsider.com/ada...istians-equate-trump-with-jesus-christ-2022-8

    GOP Rep. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois on Tuesday said some Christian circles in the US have been equating former President Donald Trump with Jesus Christ, warning of "tribalistic" behavior that has led voters to "accept anything" to stay within their communities.

    "And you have people today that, literally, I think in their heart — they may not say it — but they equate Donald Trump with the person of Jesus Christ," added Kinzinger, who identifies as Christian. "And to them, if you even come out against this 'amazing man Donald Trump,' which, obviously quite flawed, you are coming out against Jesus, against their Christian values."

    Tony Keddie:

    Republican influencers have employed interpretive tactics like garbling English translations, omitting the literary context of verses by cherry-picking excerpts, and patching disparate passages together into a new harmonious narrative. I call this garble-omit-patch strategy the “GOP approach” when used by Republican influencers to interpret the four separate gospel narratives of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
    https://news.ubc.ca/2020/10/06/ancient-texts-show-jesus-had-little-in-common-with-republican-jesus/


    Donald Trump is not a religious person and that is fine. What is not fine is for his supporters to pretend that Trump is a Christian, when he is clearly not, and for Trump to go to Christian churches just to do his grifting routine.

    The Trump administration and their Christian supporters promote a form of Christianity that scholars call “Christian nationalism.” That’s an ideology that isn’t just about religion, but “includes assumptions of nativism, white supremacy, patriarchy and heteronormativity, along with divine sanction for authoritarian control and militarism,” according to sociologists Andrew Whitehead and Samuel Perry.
    https://theconversation.com/donald-trump-is-hardly-the-republican-jesus-147726
     
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    The people that associate Trump with Christ are deeply mislead by the very people they get their spiritual guidance from.....unreal.
     
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    As a Trump supporter I agree that is silly and way over the top. Equating Trump with Christ is like equating Biden with a competent person.
     
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    Oh yeah leave it to Kinzinger to warn us about something else that isn't happening...
     
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    How many people is Kinzinger concerned about?

    How may people is the OP concerned that Kinzinger is concerned about?
     
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    You mean like the weaponization conspiracy of the IRS the RW is flogging?
     
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    I have seen this for many years. And have tried to warn Trump followers. However, telling them that Trumpism was evolving into a cult is apparently considered a personal insult. So I don't say this about anybody in this forum. Just.... about Trump followers who are not in this forum.
     
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    "They may not say it, but..." Just means he's attributing it to people who arent doing it. This is a few whacko (probably charlatan) preachers trying to grow their flock with the name Trump. Its not demonstrably representative of any meaningful group. But it sure makes a nice strawman to bloviate and consternate at...
     
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    It's true that not all Trump supporters believe it. But you can be sure it applies to those who attack Kinzinger (instead of addressing his arguments) but would otherwise vote for him if they just saw an (R) next to his name.
     
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    Except that the latter actually is happening and began under Obama.
     
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    Nah, that's just more conspiracy nonsense and a bad deflection attempt.
     
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    How can someone claim to know what others think?
     
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    Well I wouldn't vote for him because he's OK with disarming his constituents. But this 'Trump is Jesus' strawman isnt gonna help him out either...
     
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    You want to see cult like behavior and worship of a political leader? Here you go..

     
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    Adam Kinzinger warns against equating Trump with Christ

    Because he wants to reserve that title for himself?
     
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    No, thank you. I have seen trumpists before.
     
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    Of course you don't want to see it, it directly goes against the BS that you're claiming

    Straight up cult like indoctrination of school children singing Obama's praises. Just pretend like you can't see it though and carry on
     
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    I would put the number that meet all those criteria at approximately zero.
     
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    it's not a cult. LOL! :rolleyes:

    What's his name on the 700 loser's club said trump was sent by god before he ever got elected.

    This is the same guy who had people praying for his wife's hemorrhoids.
     
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    You're right but this is.... Behold more school children singing praises to their savior Obama

     
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    You are correct! I'm not interested. Just quote the part from my post it rebuts, and explain how it rebuts it. If I have any interest in confirming that it in fact, does rebuts whatever it is I said, I may watch it just to confirm
     
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    You did nothing more than provide your opinion.

    I provided a video of school children being indoctrinated to sing praises to Obama. Your refusal to watch anything that might go against your opinion is not my problem and it's not mine to rebut but it's an issue that you have to take up with yourself
     
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    Praise Obama??? Oh, the humanity!!!!

    You gotta be kidding me. So what if they praise Obama? When I was in school, VP Spiro Agnew visited my school, and a group sang a song praising him.... SO WHAT?

    And you haven't said what the hell it is you are "rebutting"!

    Kids praising Obama is not the same as fully grown ADULTS equating Trump with Christ!
     
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    "Black and yellow red and white... All are equal in his sight....humm hh hummm... Barack Hussein Obama"

    If those words are not equating someone with Christ then there is no such thing.

    This is actually on video, if you bother to watch it you can see them worshiping him as a savior.


    Not just some guys opinion saying "they may not say it but"...

    These kids are actually saying it but you just go ahead and keep ignoring it
     
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    What????

    What the hell does black yellow red and white have to do with Christ?

    You're desperately trying to find some way to project, aren't you? Well... good luck with that. I'm not interested...
     
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