Adam sinned, not Eve. Why did Yahweh punish an innocent Eve?

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  1. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    I did not realize that you were as big of a liar as most Christians. Oh well.

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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Sigh.

    Is 1+1 = 2 -------------- a good answer or an evil answer?

    I have made my case of all things being subject to good and or evil.

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    bigotry
    [ˈbiɡətrē]
    NOUN
    1. obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
    Is it ok to be a bigot against evil groups?

    I E. If a group has a fascist supremacist attitude and show little tolerance and equality for women and gays, would it be moral to be a bigot against such evil groups?

    Moral people want to know.

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    you talk about him as though he's real
    the word Christian means that you worship Christ if you call yourself Christian and say you don't believe in God kind of like calling yourself a soccer player but you don't play soccer.
    If your Christian that means you worship that God. That's what the word means.
     
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    Of course.

    If I want to play in the Christian field, I have to use their ball.

    I treat him and his vile followers as real, because I go by the harm they continue to do to women and gays.

    Not really.

    I can like Jesus' more esoteric Eastern mystical teachings without buying into his supernatural stupid Christian side.

    That is partly why we are known as the only good Christians.

    Have you never noticed that Jesus was never anointed to Christ by Jewry?

    He never earned that title.

    If you think he did, show where.

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    Christians plagiarized Chrestianity so we are talking of a stolen name and partial ideology.

    The history of Christianity is one of theft of Jewish, Chrestian ideas.

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    yet you identify as a follower of him.


    Christian doesn't mean that you like Jesus. It means that you accept him as your lord and savior.
    but you don't believe in Christ or the Messiah which is what Christ means.

    So you are not Christian unless you worship and Messiah.

    Christ isn't a name it's a title and it's the Greek word meaning Messiah.

    By stating that you are Christian you are absolutely stating you follow a messiah
    if you mean Judaism it's because they don't believe that Jesus was the Messiah like what Christians believe.
    so why would you identify yourself as a worshiper and then get all butt hurt when people point that out to you.

    you think he did you identify as a follower of a messiah that's what Christian means
     
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    I don't care about whatever fiction you've cooked up in your head words in English mean things that's why we say them.

    When you say your Christian that means you follow a messiah.
    I'm not interested in this.
     
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    I explained why.

    The Jesus I know is not the Jesus most Christians follow.

    If you only see one Jesus or good man archetype, you are not looking correctly.

    My Jesus empowers us, while organized religions want to enslave us.

    Look at how my Jesus expresses himself.

    Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught.

    Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

    John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

    Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

    Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.


    Joseph Campbell shows the same esoteric ecumenist idea in this link.


    The bible just plainly says to put away the things of children. The supernatural and literal reading of myths.

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    Lord??

    Jesus said he came to serve and not to be served.
    Would you have me ignore his wishes, real or not?

    Savior??

    What did you do to get condemned?

    You know, Christians always run from admitting that they have been unjustly condemned, as well as running from the fact that they have to sin even more to be saved by Jesus as they have to sin by abdicating the responsibility for their own sins.

    Do you see that sin?

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    Ok, but then you have to admit that Jesus was never anointed to that status.

    Just in case you did not know of Chrestians plagiarism.

    Excavating The Empty Tomb - Part 15D - YouTube

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    Neither. Being true or not doesn't mean something is good or evil.
     
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    A no true Scotsman fallacy is very typical of very typical Christians.
    Another appeal to purity.
    Believe whatever you want I don't care
     
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    to admit means to confess something is true.

    You haven't made an argument for your claim that convinces me that it's true.

    So I can't admit.
    I still don't know of Christian plagiarism. So far the only time I've ever heard of it was from some really strange person on the internet that claims to be Christian but doesn't believe in Christ.

    So the idea of Christian plagiarism is extremely suspect.
     
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    Christ means Messiah or anointed one and you don't believe Jesus was anointed you don't believe in Christ.

    I don't care how you rationalize it what bizarre claims you make when you claim to be something you are not you are misrepresenting yourself.
     
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    Hmm.

    Most see truth as good and lies or errors as evil.

    If we cannot agree on that point, I see no point in going further.

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    Good.

    I hope you do not say that to Christians and Muslims.

    That would mean you do not care about your fellow man, or those women or gays in your family.

    Christians do not do unto others. Jesus' main rule.

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    Neither does the bible, as it does not report it.

    Seems we are done. Thanks for the chat.

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    DL
     
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    You are filled with hate and intolerance for the beliefs of others, continually insulting their understsanding of God and you have the nerve to speak of 'morals'...


    bigotry definition | Open Education Sociology Dictionary
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    Definition of Bigotry. (noun) Extreme intolerance of the beliefs and opinions of an individual or group, particularly racial or religious.


    bigotry - Dictionary Definition : Vocabulary.com
    https://www.vocabulary.com › dictionary › bigotry


    If a person is intolerant of other ideas, races, or religions, we call that person a bigot. The intolerance expressed by that bigot is called bigotry.

     
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    I'm gay. It's always funny when people don't realize that.

    Yes I say it to everybody.
    Nobody does.
     
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    Not really a chat, just you narcissistically pontificating.
     
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    Because she sinned and you are wrong as usual.
     
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    Indeed. Thanks for noticing.

    Born of love against all that puts those I love in jeopardy, like homophobes and the misogynous and those who promote a genocidal prick of a god as good.

    Check your love level. It is low, given how you want me to tolerate the in-tolerable the way you do.

    It has always been the Gnostic tradition to name Yahweh a vile demiurge in our myths.

    When that prick became literally real to the fools who believe in a real supernatural realm, Gnostic Christians, the intelligentsia of the day, could argue against genocide but the literalist Christian dummies could not.

    That is why inquisitions were handy to the brutes and dummies.

    Any understanding that concludes, --- that genocide is the best remedy, --- when a cure is also available, --- is the understanding of stupid and immoral people.

    Do you disagree?

    With a real argument, or is inquisition and running away all you and Christians ever have?

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    What sin, to your first.

    You are a liar, to your last.

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    but God seemed most upset about them learnign it was creepy for God to watch them naked, he groomed them and someone told them the truth
     

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