Affidavit: 'key' Republican 'leaders' had secure back channel to the Kremlin in October 2016

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  1. ThorInc

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    Who this Maria Butina & WTH is her connection with a Russian oligarch (Torshin?). Why is the GOP, National Prayer Breakfast & the NRA intertwined with her and the ruble? Is this not corruption?
     
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    Putin has Trump by the balls, financially and politically.
     
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    Russian infiltration of the gop was deeper than anyone knew
     
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    And he also has the GOP by the nutsack as well it would appear.
    The GOP kept taking money from the enemy, they sold out in the Obama years.......they are owned and susceptible to exposure.
     
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    "Butina is a conduit between Trump, Russia, and the NRA – and she may be in position to expose the money trail involved. She also has an eye popping connection to the very start of Trump’s presidential campaign.



    Back in 2015, Donald Trump called on Maria Butina during a press conference. She asked what Trump would do about U.S. sanctions against Russia. Trump responded by saying sanctions weren’t necessary. Now we know that Butina was (allegedly) working for Putin, and asking the question on his behalf. Did Trump know he was calling on a Putin representative at that press conference? Was this his way of informing Putin that he would remove sanctions if he were elected? Was it Trump’s way of asking Putin for help in the election?"
    The real reason Robert Mueller arrested Maria Butina during the Trump-Putin summit
    Speculation site but the "assertion" worthy of consideration in this GOP corruption puzzle.
     
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    Thank God for Mueller exposing the corrupt Republicans and to think they were trying to shut it down so bad, yikes
     
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    The GOP/NRA/Evangelicals has been on the ruble corrupt feed for quite a few years now. They have take the road of no return.
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    This is how kompromat happens GRU style...........
     
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    Is there anything that could come out about the gop and Russia that would really surprise anyone at this point?
     
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    Apart from the fact that the GOP birthers drape themselves in religion and the flag? Nope.............they are definitely not American patriots.
     
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    It seems like Trump "supporters" view (37 at this time) but can't debate the thread topic...............quite telling.
     
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    There isn't much to debate here. Your title doesnt match the evidence. There is no suggestion that the back channel was ever established, just that she was involved in trying to, it has nothing to do with Trump, and how she rates the importance of people in the Republican party is unknown.

    This spy was trying to network through the NRA (of which she held no position) to establish some sort of back channel with some republicans who were not affiliated with the presidential campaign. What am I meant to argue?
     
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    I think he picked a poor source...

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.dail...U-S-political-organizations-Kremlin-boss.html

    According to court papers, Butina met with U.S. politicians and candidates, attended events sponsored by special interest groups - including two National Prayer Breakfast events - and organized Russian-American 'friendship and dialogue' dinners in Washington with the goal of 'reporting back to Moscow' what she had learned.
     
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    The Rus-publicans have been compromised by Russia
     
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    Yeah... that's what I would expect an unregistered spy to do. This does not in any way implicate wrongdoing by anyone else. That's like Borat punking all these politicians for his new show... they are not blamed for it... on either side. That a Russian spy did Russian spy **** is sort of... expected. Glad she was arrested, assuming the charges are valid, which they certainly seem to be.
     
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    Agree that it doesn’t implicate anyone else. Does seem to be a lot of Russian interest in getting a foot hold in the gop
     
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    Daily Kos?

    LMFAO!

    Get back to us with a real news outlet.
     
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    Oh I expect there are folks trying on both sides. She was found in an investigation of Trump Russia collusion where, according to your link
     
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    There are a couple of unnamed Americans in the indictment. I hope you feel the same if they happen to be Devin Nunez and Jim Jordan.
     
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    Again, being a victim of manipulation by a spy is not something I can attack, unless something was done illegally to benefit them, in which case, of course I want them prosecuted, no matter who they are. I will go further and say I am glad for the investigation if it produced some spies to be routed... however... it would be pretty embarrassing if we didn't already know about her. She wasn't exactly low profile.
     
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    Bottom line in all of this for me is it goes to show the dangers of our national internal division, especially within our political apparatus, because it clearly leaves these segregated, mutually distrustful groups prone to mixed allegiances, siding with hostile foreign agents over their own countrymen. It is subversion, what the Russians have been up to, and it has affected conservatives, and so the Republicans, quite strongly so far. It's so sad to watch Americans praise Putin and Russia and direct all manner of hate and vitriol at the very people working to protect and defend them and the rest of this nation against such foreign threats.
     
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    If you want a real eye opener look up the Chris Wallace interview with Putin yesterday on Fox YouTube channel. I looked at the comments section and it was about 95% visciously ripping Wallace as a liberal tool and mounding praise onto Putin as a great leader and a real man. These Russians have infiltrated our country in a big way and now a large percentage of Trump supporters embrace the Russian dictator and hate our counterespionage and FBI agents. Their campaign of pro Russian anti-US propaganda has been a smashing success. Many of the posters on this forum are repeating Russian propaganda ver batum here every day. Hopefully when Mueller releases the results of his investigation it will shut these lying scumbags up for good.
     
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    Oh no, it won't. It will press them to double down further. Mueller is entirely "deep state" conspiracy in their minds. That's why this subversion is so dangerous - it can't be dealt with very simply at all. Not sure what could have been done to counter it, either. Putin has had every advantage through this approach, as he is no doubt very well aware.
     
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    Did you read the comments? I am sure there are some Russian trolls among them but most of those who commented are just your everyday Hannity watching morons who believe everything Sean and Don say. And they have been turned into de facto Commies and KGB lovers. Amazing!



    Sorry my link didn't work but you can google YouTube Fox Wallace Putin interview.
     
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    I've been reading and just posting about YouTube comments by such people. Sure, *if* Trump winds up in trouble from the Mueller investigation, it will probably bring some of these people back to reality, but plenty of others will only retreat farther down that rabbit hole of "deep state" conspiracy and love for Trump and Putin/Russia as the "good guys." But at least they probably won't represent any kind of meaningful proportion of people who could or would cause a lot of trouble afterwards. They can commiserate about it all on their kooky forums and YouTube channels.
     

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