Should Affirmative Action be continued or ended. Has 50 years been enough? We've had a Black president. Well actually half white. A major concern is Affirmative Action institutionalizes racism & genderism. Both have evils. Hiring based on anything other than the best qualified applicant is a form of prejudice. Politically Correct, institutionalized, government sponsored, prejudice! Another concern is the government should not be categorizing people by race, gender, religion, marital status, sexual preference, etc. in order to form a more perfect union. So how does it stand with you? Should Affirmative Action be continued or ended? Opinionated, chime in & vote. Less opinionated, just vote. Moi r > g Stop Creeping ism Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic, regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
May I use the godfather of ending affirmative action the chance to be publicly acknowledged and listened to? Mark me as i agree with Ward.
If you are anti affirmative action, I believe you have a well grounded belief. I think Ward is so well educated you will catch onto him quite quickly.
Affirmative Action is stupid. Why in the world do we make the choice of putting less capable people in a position to fail? A more sensible policy would be to improve the capabilities of those who are currently being left behind. What is needed is a multi-pronged, full-court press on the real problems. The less advantaged need our help in three areas. They need security. This means freedom from crime. That must come first. Both so they don't have to live in fear and so they don't turn to crime out of hopelessness. They need education. A real education. We need to dump all the social engineering garbage and teach needed skills. We have to stop wasting OUR kids lives with failed experiments. We have to reject the false notion that certain classes can't learn. Unless there is a real disability, anyone can learn something worthwhile. We have to stop pushing out non-functional future welfare recipients. The third need is the easiest. They need opportunities. It's the easiest for the simple reason that if crime is eliminated, and if the citizens are capable, the jobs will come to them. So where's Dr. Ben Carson? Where's Betsy DeVos? Where's President Trump? He made this a big issue during his campaign. If all you Trump haters want something to hammer him for, here it is. You don't need all those make-believe scandals and outrages. Use a real outrage. Prove that you can operate in the real world.
Affirmative Action is racist and punishes qualified people in place of less qualified people for the sole purpose of appearance, not merit. How pathetic is that. Oddly Affirmative Action now negatively impacts some other minorities over others. Fully qualified Asian students have been rejected from numerous universities and colleges for less qualified blacks or latinos. Don't even get me started on how racist it is against white males. Placing less qualified persons into any position than a more qualified person is never beneficial...
Witness the Democratic Party. Candidates and staff. The biggest pool of qualified persons is straight, white male. Witness how too few from this pool are senior party staff or candidates. How racist, genderist, sexual preferencist is that? And its' so obvious. I support a straight, white male political and liberation movements. Really. Maybe call it the Belch & Fart Party. The B&F Party's primary role is to end affirmative action and practices. Moi I want my Democratic Party back. r > g Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic, regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
Thank you yabberefugee but I am afraid your meaning got lost somewhere. Meanwhile, I wish the 1 vote for the continuation of Affirmative Action would say somethin'. No upload by the 1 seems - - As If. For The Continuation of Affirmative Action Against the Continuation of A.A. when in the reality of today we know it is the opposite Moi r > g Make Pay Its' Fair Share!
End it immediately! "Affirmative Action" never has been anything but a blatantly RACIST program -- Reverse-Discrimination, against White people. It has always been wholly illegal, and unconstitutional, but our government has promoted it and allowed it since the early 1970's. As much as anything else, it is absolutely insulting to Black people! It says to them, "You're too inferior and stupid to compete in a world with non-Black people in it, so, we have to give you an unfair advantage over them". It's total bullshit and it never should have been allowed in the first place!
Affirmative Action ended a long long time ago, somewhere a few weeks after Richard Nixon's inauguration. The real Liberals fought a long battle keeping it from being turned into a quota system, knowing that would effectively kill it, but Nixon was anxious to appease the Black Caucus and it was almost immediately abandoned and turned into a quota system; they just kept the name around for PR grins. Nixon also gave the Black Caucus the 'War On Drugs' they lobbied so hard for at nearly the same time. I bring the latter up because they go together hand in hand, and I heard some idiot on an NPR show a couple of weeks ago babbling some incredibly ignorant and stupid crap about it being 'Whitey' tryin' to shut down da black political machine n stuff', and the dumbass host just gushed and agreed with the idiot moron 'activist'. It was in some anti-Trump rant or other so I tuned most of it out, this standing out as a particularly stupid fake news story.
What is "conventional" racism? I thought racism was racism, you dislike someone based upon skin color or ethnicity.
Threads like these fail to address the matter that corporate boards, like so many other institutions in the USA, have REVERSE affirmative action in that their boards are almost exclusively white males such as here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/article151342177.html That discriminatory practice is what's needed to be ended in the USA.
After reading your attached article I'm failing to see the problem. There was nothing in the article to indicate that the board members were chosen based upon their skin color. Without that evidence it appears they were chosen based upon expertise and/or skill, which is what this thread is about. The article is demanding diversity and I noticed the article doesn't speak at all about the qualifications of the new board members other than they have to be women. Based upon you posts and the attached article that you linked, you are clearly in favor of Affirmative Action.....yes? Oh, and the article is not about racism, since it is about women and not the color or ethnicity of said women.
Qualifications? Just go to any college and you will find plenty of suitable candidates of all shapes, colors, and sizes.
Show proof that they actively engage in racial bias. That or just admit that your premise is total BS and move on.
They all look like quota systems to me. Again, AA was not a quota system, and was never intended to be. But black politicians got what they wanted, a system that dumbs down black kids and keeps them stupid, rather than increasing their real educational potential to match that of other demographics; now they can still blame it on 'racism' while lying about whose 'racism' is really at fault and have a lot of morons following them around believing them.
Could you please say again. I'm not sure I understand you correctly. My fault. Of course AA is a quota system. From the beginning, it sets aside X percent of this or that for them, not the best. The dumbing down is the product of boosting persons beyond their qualifications.
Nope, from the beginning it was about equal opportunity, not even remotely the same as a quota system, and in fact the quota system was strongly resisted by liberals like LBJ, Patrick Moynihan, and Hubert Humphrey. AA was about ending racial discrimination against qualified people, and about making achieving those qualifications a level playing field via merit. Nixon made it a quota system, trying to win back black Congressional votes and popular votes. No doubt about it. I never said otherwise. I don't know why it's hard to make the distinction. I guess it's from hearing it conflated constantly over many years or something that younger people think it was the same thing. Hugh Davis Graham's book The Civil Rights Era lays it all out, names names, dates, etc., one of the best books on AA, the quota system, and other CR programs that got distorted over time by corrupt pols and dumbass radicals. https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-civil-rights-era-by-hugh-davis-graham/ A must-have for those who want to add to their political history libraries. There are other more detailed reviews out there, this is just the first one I have in my links folder for it. And incidentally, MLK didn't support quotas, either.
Maybe it's just me, but for a group of people that will determine the fate of a company I would want more than a fresh out of school college grad. I would want someone with a proven, successful business experience. If that proven business experience comes in the form of a white male.....so be it. If it comes in the form of a "pick your color" man or woman.....so be it. It also comes down to personality. For example.....who would want Trump on their board of directors? He would have the place in turmoil between the other board members so not matter his business experience he would not qualify......and he's a business successful white male.
All of you are forgetting that "Affirmative Action" is very alive and well in the way the Federal Government solicits bids and awards very lucrative contracts! This is not (and never has been) merely about a handful of hyperliberal colleges throwing White applicants under the bus to bring in less-qualified Blacks. And it involves many millions upon millions of dollars, year after year.... Do any of you know what "Small Business Set-aside" programs are? Do any of you realize that for those solicitations, ONLY certain categories of citizens are even allowed to submit bids?! Read on, and you'll get REALLY mad! You can spend many hours digging this totally unfair, "reverse-discrimination" policy out of government sewers, but start with this: https://www.sba.gov/starting-business/how-start-business/business-types/minority-owned-businesses http://www.fedgovcontracts.com/chap11.pdf https://portal.hud.gov/hudportal/HUD?src=/program_offices/sdb/guide/pop Hint: anything that unfairly discriminates against, or FOR, any U. S. citizen should be flatly illegal and thrown out of practice in this country forever.
