After the Abraham Peace Accord turn deserts green...

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    Maybe... Probably yes
     
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    Do you think it makes one damn bit of difference to our situation today that such was the case at some point in geologic time?
     
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    What do you think of this opening gambit toward possible near future events in Russia and the Ukraine?



    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...n-of-ukraine-be.594973/page-3#post-1073163985

    What should the West's reaction be to a Russian invasion of Ukraine be?




     
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    THE BILL GATES "INNOVATION TO ZERO" THEORY DEPENDS TOTALLY ON THE AL GORE CARBON TAX THEORY..... IF YOU CAN TAKE OUT THE AL GORE THEORY..... YOU BREAK THE BACK OF THE BILL GATES PLANS!!!! PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP SET THE STAGE TO DEFEAT BOTH AL GORE AND BILL GATES WITH HIS "ABRAHAM PEACE ACCORDS."

    ... "Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison." (Matthew 5:25)

    .... "The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.
    It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the LORD, and the excellency of our God.
    ...... Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert. And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes. " (Isaiah chapter thirty five verses one, two, six and seven).

    Global Warming II by Carl Cantrell
     
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    ARE NINE POINT FOUR MILLION ISRAELIS READY TO TURN THE DESERTS OF THE SINAI AS WELL AS OF THE ISLAMIC WORLD GREEN????????

    ARE NINE POINT FOR MILLION ISRAELIS READY TO RENOUNCE BILL GATES AS SOMETHING OF AN IDOL?????????



    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...cing-appropriate-fear.600342/#post-1073499809

     
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    Sinai and Negev deserts are occupied by Bedouins which came to that area from Egypt and other Arab countries... they illegaly settled on wide lands.. Will they turn something to green ? No !! ... Maybe Only turn their crime profits to green US dollars
     
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    But what if they could be convinced that there is far, far, far, far, far more money to be made in turning deserts green.......
    as opposed to doing what they have been doing recently to earn a living??????


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ce-in-the-middle-east.599598/#post-1073551611

    Brigham Young University in Jerusalem and peace in the Middle East


     
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    Even Allah with the holy Quran cannot convince his followers to stop hatred and violence .. no chance.
     
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    Mr. Allan Savory's TedX lecture is in agreement with the Carl Cantrell theory on stabilization of the climate as well as with Isaiah chapter thirty five as well as with that ancient Islamic prediction.






    How to green the world's deserts and reverse climate change | Allan Savory
    5,301,797 views
    Mar 4, 2013


    Book 005, Number 2208:
    "Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia becomes meadows and rivers."
    SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)



    “....


    .. "Tikkun olam (Hebrew: תִּיקּוּן עוֹלָם, lit. 'repair of the world') is a concept in Judaism, interpreted by some within Orthodox
    Judaism as the prospect of overcoming all forms of idolatry, and by other Jewish thinkers such as Reform Judaism as an
    aspiration to behave and act constructively and beneficially." (Tikkun Olam, Wikipedia)


    ... "The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.
    It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joyand singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the
    excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the LORD, and the excellency of our God.

    ....
    Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongueof the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out,
    and streams in the desert.
    And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons,where
    each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes." (Isaiah 35 : 1, 2, 6, 7 ).
     
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    Perhaps it is a bit rude to quote myself but......
    It sure does look like those who are passing a script to Biden and Trudeau that is certainly NOT in the interest of ninety nine point nine, nine percent of Canadians or Americans.......
    are out to wreck the world economy so.......
    perhaps it is time for a Nunavut Territorial Currency Experiment that could be compared with what was done by the province of Alberta during the Great Depression. Premier (Bible) Bill Aberhart is a truly interesting person from Canadian history...........


    As you can see from the results of the poll I personally went with the national debt of Canada being sixteen to twenty percent a practical joke played on us ordinary ignorant Canadians by elitist Malthusian Canadians from the extremely wealthy class of our society.

    At least that is how I understand an important part of our recent history......

    https://bettysearlyedition.blogspot.com/2015/07/how-pierre-trudeau-turned-us-into-debt.html

    In the video that I give the link to here Mr. Norman Willis reports that a group of Jewish scholars approached him and asked him to play the role of Moshiach ben Ephrayim / Yosef according to their beliefs on what this man must accomplish......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...iah-son-of-joseph-and.581191/#post-1072943978

    A possible modern Mashiach ben Ephrayim / Messiah son of Joseph and.....[/QUOTE]


    I think that I know who President Donald J. Trump would prefer to win the next Canadian federal election........

    Wow!!!!!!


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    Dear Dennis,

    The North represents one of Canada’s greatest opportunities but for too long has been treated as an afterthought.

    While I was travelling through Nunavut, Yukon and the Northwest Territories over the past weeks, I saw a beautiful land with great promise. The people are warm, generous and resourceful.

    Unfortunately, Justin Trudeau has neglected the North – not one of his Cabinet ministers has been from the North since 2016. It seems he doesn’t care about their input, only their votes.

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    The region has many security, shipping and resource advantages too. For years, we’ve been watching authoritarian states like Russia brazenly try to stake claim to huge areas of the North Pole and Arctic Ocean.

    We are the only country in North America to share a border with Putin’s Russia – and that border has long been challenged by Putin.

    It’s a problem that Canada has appeared so weak and unreliable on the world stage under Trudeau. It’s embarrassing to watch Canada publicly singled out for falling far below our defence spending commitments every time NATO nations meet.

    He has failed to properly fund our Canadian Armed Forces. He has made a mess of our military procurement system, and he has left our troops without the modern equipment they need to defend Canada at home and abroad.

    The two new polar icebreakers promised by Trudeau are plagued by delays and costing taxpayers billions more than original estimates. But that’s not surprising when it seems everything the Liberals touch results in delays and major cost overruns.

    Meanwhile Russia and China are bolstering their own icebreaker fleets.

    Trudeau’s incompetence has left our territory exposed and our military sadlydependent on other countries, and even civilians, for support.

    In the years to come, the free and democratic world will need to continue to strongly oppose the aggression of states like Russia and China, but who will take Canada seriously when we can’t even defend our own borders? And what ally would trust us to defend theirs?

    As former Prime Minister Harper once said, “Sovereignty over one’s territory is not a theoretical concept. It is earned and retained by being present, by having planes in the air, ships in the sea and, most importantly, boots on the ground.”

    As Canada’s next Prime Minister, I will restore Canada’s credibility on the world stage and put forward a serious plan for the North that is backed up by action and financial commitments.

    I will fix our broken procurement system and make investments for modern equipment for the Canadian Rangers, the Royal Canadian Navy and the Canadian Coast Guard so they can decisively defend our Northern coastline.

    I will treat our Northern communities with respect by making sure they keep more of their natural resource revenues. I will help them build new critical infrastructure like roads, housing, airports, and water and sewage facilities – we need to close the gap on the basic necessities that Northerners have lived without for so long. I will also lower the cost of fuel and food by cancelling the Carbon Tax.


    The world needs a stronger Canada. Enough empty promises and defence freeloading. We are the True North, Strong and Free. It’s time for Canada to prove it by committing to defend our country, our people and our sovereignty from coast to coast to coast.

    Sincerely,

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    Yes... but we would have to be willing to admit that perhaps..... just perhaps.....
    Mr. Al Gore's Carbon Tax Theory might just be seriously flawed and lacking in objectivity.

    I personally think that Mr. Allan Savory's lecture is brilliant.... and extremely encouraging.



    How to green the world's deserts and reverse climate change | Allan Savory
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    The first step is to accept what the vast majority of scientists the world over are saying concerning climate.

    The advantage of the carbon tax idea is that there can become a market in carbon, thus putting a price on greenhouse gas emissions.

    One of (or THE) major problem with greenhouse gas emissions is that it is free! Any corporation or individual can dump as much carbon into our atmosphere as they want.

    This is exactly analogous to what happened to our rivers, back when we allowed corporations to dump their garbage into our rivers - to the point that some caught fire!!

    So, the question is how to equitably require serious reductions to dumping carbon into our air.

    There are several ideas on that.

    One is EPA type law on each industry. Cars, steel factories, electricity plants, etc., etc., can all have restrictions put on them.

    Another way is to put a price on carbon emission and allow corporations to work out the most economical distribution of carbon reductions - using capitalism! These businesses could buy and sell the right to pollute the skies - meaning that there is a financial incentive to clean up their acts.


    >>Berating Gore for suggesting that we use capitalism is really pretty juvenile.

    I happen to agree that there are reasons that his idea is unlikely to work. The main one is that it requires an initial distribution of rights to pollute that could then be bought and sold.

    BUT, the politics of the matter was clearly going to be that every company would get so much of this right to pollute that there would be no incentive to buy more rights from other companies! They could continue with business as usual, dumping massive tonnage of carbon into the atmosphere.
     
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    This is an old Ted Talk, of course.

    I'd be interested if you would post a serious business plan.

    For example, I notice in the pics that there are people involved. If that's true, the business plan has to itemize how many, what their qualifications are, and where they are going to be found.

    You'll remember that I've asked for this in the past when you have posted this and similar ideas.
     
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    Saudi Arabia is the world's largest producer of desalinated water......

    The Ghaf tree is pretty amazing......





    Saudi Arabia found Amazing method to convert Hot DESERT into Green FORESTS | Climate change

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    YHWH / The G-d of Abraham is also into the production of eight billion reality film projects and a shift is about to take place on this earth that
    will amaze, astound and astonish every one of us!!!! I believe that the people who allied with the darkness will be the most shocked when they find out that
    even Satan may have been acting in the mind set of the Stanley Milgram research...... and may in a sense still be attempting to work out the plan of YHWH
    from another angle....... Everything that Satan does to steal and kill and destroy.... .proves that every word in the Jewish and Christian scriptures are true!

    The world is facing a possible Bear Market organized by the wealthiest of the wealthy and one of the only people with the
    power to bring people into agreement on some win - win - win - win - win projects that could thwart the plans of the elite is President Donald J. Trump so.....
    the nation of Israel offering him this option........... of being anointed with oil as the Prophet Samuel anointed King David, (even if in secret) ...... could play a huge role in defeating their plans to wreck the world economy!


    "Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:" (Luke 24"25)


    I believe that President Donald J. Trump has a role to play as The Christian Political Cyrus but he will immediately raise up an army that will soon number a billion. This army was predicted in the book "The Call" by Pastor Rick Joyner.


    Christians, Muslims, Jews and all people interested in genuine peace coming to the Middle East will tend to be very interested in this book that has been translated into English from the Russian language using Google Translate.

    Ezekiel chapter forty seven seems to be a win - win - win - win - win scenario for Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, The Palestinians in both Gaza as well as in the West Bank, as well as for every nation in the Middle East because only an outpouring of the Ruach ha Kodesh / The Holy Spirit can bring genuine Shalom to the Middle East.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/17g_8KDmnxGZME_Nelx9TrQDTimx8nb5L/view
     
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    The recent economic downturn is world wide and caused by COVID, with its various ramifications. There is no evidence that it was caused by "wealthy people". There is no justification for "wealthy people" damaging the economy by which they got wealthy, either.

    There ARE VERY CLEAR reasons for Palestinians to be monumentally, even suicidality enraged, as their land is being taken, their homes are bulldozed, their orchards are being destroyed, and much of West Bank is ruled by a foreign power in which they have no representation and administered by mercenaries.

    And, all you've got is calls for more slaughter.

    Once again, I could not be more disgusted.
     
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    THERE IS A FLAW IN THE ABRAHAMIC PEACE ACCORDS AND NOT EVEN PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP IS ALLOWED TO DIVIDE ISRAEL. NOW THIS WHOLE THING MAKES SENSE.... JESUS IS WRESTLING WITH BOTH PRESIDENTS AS HE ONCE WRESTLED WITH JACOB / YAKOB.

    MR. SIMAN TOV ALIALOUF :
     
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    ???

    The "Abrahamic Peace Accords" had NOTHING to do with Palestine.

    If anything, it concentrated more strength behind Israel as it continues its ethnic cleansing, with NO PLAN of any kind as to what could possibly resolve this humanitarian atrocity.

    And, I see no reason to be interested in the opinion of the individual you cite. For example, claiming some right given by God as justifying Israel's atrocities is absolutely nonsense.

    God isn't interested in creating or perpetrating atrocities. And, that is especially true when considering the life and teachings of Jesus.
     
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    This video may help you to understand what I mean by all of this.

    Rabbi Walker & William Koenig discuss his book "Eye To Eye" 09 29 2017

    " 2017 Expanded Edition. Over one hundred billion-dollar, record-setting catastrophes and/or events occurred while US presidents George H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Donald Trump were pressuring or calling on Israel to divide their covenant land. The costliest insurance events, the costliest hurricanes, the largest tornado outbreaks, the " Perfect Storm," the 9/11 terror events, and Hurricane Katrina corresponded to White House pressure on Israel to divide their land. The US, the UN, and the EU do not have the authority to divide God s covenant land. Calling the Israeli-Palestinian talks "Middle East peace talks" is a false narrative. Jews have a three-thousand-year history with Jerusalem, and Christians have a two-thousand-year history. The biblical heartland of Israel - Judea, Samaria, and East Jerusalem - is not to be part of an Arab State. The Bible declares that Jerusalem will become a burdensome stone, and efforts to divide the city and land will lead to Armageddon, the final battle for Jerusalem. The God of Israel will continue to rebuke those leaders and their nations attempting to divide His land! "
     
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    I'm not going to watch videos.

    Israelites lived there at one time in ancient history.

    That does NOT GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO TREAT THOSE TODAY WITH ETHNIC CLEANSING.

    Property ownership, the right to representation in government, etc., are NOT decided by the oldest claim to some region of the world or by some group's ideas on what their God thinks.

    That idea is just plain NOT accepted anywhere in the world.

    You are thinking about this issue exactly like a terrorist.
     
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    Whatever is meant by The Restoration of the Lost Tribes of Israel...... in combination with the evidence that indicates that a high percentage of Palestinians are partly defended from the Messianic Jewish community of the first and second century who DID NOT JOIN THE BAR KOCHBA REVOLT.... AND THUS WERE NOT EXPELLED BY ROME FROM THE HOLY LAND.........

    is evidence that a win win win win win win win solution to the Middle East conflict is coming.......



    Could this dream that was given to Pastor Robby Dawkins about a year ago set him up to do a series of documentary films that rival "An Inconvenient Truth" by Mr. Al Gore?


    New Mexico biologist Carl Cantrell.

    "So how is our problem of continental drying causing global warming? It all has to do with vegetation and sunlight. When sun light hits a plant, it causes a process which we call photosynthesis where the energy from the sun light creates oxygen for us to breathe, water for us to drink, and is stored as sugar for plants and animals to use. When the same sun light hits the soil, all of its energy turns into heat and is radiated back into the atmosphere.. ."

    "Therefore, the less vegetation you have on the planet, the more sunlight is being turned into heat and the warmer the planet becomes...."

    "Just take a look at any satellite picture of the earth showing heat and you will see that our deserts are the warmest spots on the planet by far. More heat is being generated by just one of the top four or five deserts than by all of our cities combined.... "

    "The truth is that you can do more to decrease global warming by just reducing the average temperature for the Sahara Desert by one or two degrees than if we humans completely quit using fossil fuels and returned to the cave…."

    "So, how would you start working to resolve this problem? Easy, cool the deserts and get some vegetation growing on them as soon as possible. But the method is much more complex than that. You have to use the prevailing trade winds in relation to the deserts to get the best results as quickly as possible and it will be extremely expensive…."

    "Then we build desalination plants along the coast near these water sheds and pipe water to the tops or ridges of the water sheds…"

    "We need to start working on this as soon as possible because, if the planet reaches a point to where it is warming faster than our technology can possibly stop or reverse this warming trend, then our planet is lost and all life will cease to exist on this planet within a relatively short period of time. We will need to start with the largest and hottest deserts because cooling them will have the greatest benefit in the least time (Global Warming II by biologist Carl Cantrell)."
     
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    Bull. You don't get to a win win solution through ethnic cleansing.

    Period.

    And, there is NOTHING AT ALL that Israel is even contemplating that doesn't continue with it's program of humanitarian atrocity.
     
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    The people who had a brush with death and who later on developed a totally different view of the world.......
    were not ethnically cleansed in any way..... but there are a lot of
    hyper religious people who would tend to think that they were ......

    because many theologians only recognize theological clones of themselves..... or the few thinkers that they have respect for........

    The Restoration of the Lost Tribes of Israel predicted in the scriptures has NOTHING to do with ethnic cleansing.... as was done in the time of the Exodus.... before the Holy Spriit was poured out in Acts chapter two......


    https://near-death.com/mellen-thomas-benedict/

     
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    NO. You can not deny that Israel IS ethnically cleansing West Bank.
    What you think was predicted in some ancient document has NOTHING to do with how humans are to be treated today.

    In fact, attempting to justify ethnic cleansing on the basis of ones own religious beliefs is just plain disgusting.
     
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    So what about a prediction given during a brush with death as recent as nineteen eight five......
    could that prediction come to pass?


    2023 to 2035 predictions from a near death experiencer, (who was an Atheist).

     

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