Aftermath of 9-11 viewed in higher dimension of space- time by near death experiencer

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  1. genericBob

    genericBob New Member

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    so lack of showing mathematical proof, = "argument from incredulity"
    or?

    this bit does not require a mathematical proof.
    get real!
     
  2. Hannibal

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    You were making a claim based on science.

    Show your work. (ie: math)
     
  3. genericBob

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    Let the lurkers work it out for themselves
    I say NO MATH required to make the case,
    and you insist on "math" for proof.
    whatever, doesn't take all that much actual
    thinking about it, its simply logical that there
    had to have been an additional source of energy
    in order to bring down WTC1,2 &7 in the manner observed.
     
  4. Hannibal

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    You are asking people to forget evidence and science?

    Incredible.
     
  5. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Or perhaps building contractors in New York might be cutting some corners here and there?
     
  6. genericBob

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    Re-Read my post, I'm asking people to examine the evidence.
     
  7. Hannibal

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    It's quite clear that you aren't. You state that math, and by extension physics, forensics and science can be ignored.
    It simply 'doesn't look right' to you. Do you know what that is?

    Argument from incredulity.
     
  8. genericBob

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    NO, YOU say by extension ........
    I have said no such thing and I do not support throwing
    out the baby with the bath......
     
  9. Hannibal

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    So we can assume you'll be presenting evidence when asked for it?
    Or?
     
  10. genericBob

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    there are discussions of real relevant facts
    and then there are demands for speculation
    or demands for "who done it" sorts of bits that
    can not be answered at this time and only serve
    as a distraction from the major points of the real evidence.
     
  11. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At least by keeping the discussion going he is setting you up to alleviate the fears and concerns of a group of people who may tend to agree with him and whose opinion could well be influenced by these discussions.
     
  12. genericBob

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    absolutely ..... its a battle for hearts & minds!
    that is exactly what we have here.
     
  13. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Also...… although I tend strongly to disagree with you on your conclusion regarding the cause of 9-11..... you and I might just agree almost completely when it comes to the history of central banking policy in the USA?

    Here I am .... campaigning for the office of M. L. A. for Pictou Centre Nova Scotia....in 2006 and for the office of municipal councilor in 2004..... and I am writing about events in the USA.......... Now why would I do a silly thing like that?????

    Could it possibly have anything to do with President Lincoln being assassinated in 1865 and the British North America Act that formed Canada taking place in 1867?????

    www.BankingSystemFlaws.blogspot.ca/


    So genericBob.... although I disagree with you on the probable cause of 9-11.... I have the funny feeling we might tend to be on a very similar page regarding the history of banking policy.


    http://www.christianforums.com/t7653888/


    An apology to all Americans from a Canadian, and a thank you!

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    Some of my ancestors were Masons from Dixie who came to Country Harbour, Nova Scotia at the time of the American Revolution. I deeply appreciate the fact that so many Americans were closer to God than we Canadians tend to be and somehow your leaders were guided to not persecute us!


    I also wish to apologize for the fact that the leadership of my nation was less guided by the Holy Spirit and we did not understand how the independence of America was comparable to the division of the Northern Kingdom of Israel from the Southern Kingdom of Judah at the time of King Rehoboam the son of Solomon.

    I also wish to apologize for our elitism because it has been playing a significant role in your economic crash of 2008. If a higher percentage of Americans understood the full implications of truly wise monetary policy the world would begin to look quite different indeed!
     
  14. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you get a chance to read anything about the "soul wave" by Dr. Atwater?

    I personally was truly impressed by what she reported viewing.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If what Dr. P. M. H. Atwater reports happened became common knowledge among Christians more Muslims might take a look at it and some of the chains of ignorance might just be broken off some people who don't know their right hand from their left.
     
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  18. genericBob

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    Think about this if you will,
    if you were in the position of having to listen to some totally slymie sales geek doing a high-pressure sell, and you would KNOW from what was going down, that the whole bit was a scam, just like with the comic who has the trademark act of being the lying freak..... the stuff that is being peddled by the mainstream media about the 19 Arab fanatics & the hijacked airliners, it all absolutely screams "THIS IS FRAUD" !
     
  19. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ok….. but what about the seven million Americans who claim to have had one of those near death experiences? Are those people lying about the content of what they feel they in a sense saw and heard and felt and learned while their consciousness seemed to be outside their body and brain?

    If so….. .why do NDEs seems to have such a transformative effect on the people who have them?

    I personally am not sufficiently well informed to rule out what Dr. P. M. H. Atwater claims to have seen going on in the higher dimensions after the attack?


    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...accounts-transform-psychiatry-psychology.html
    Will near death experience accounts transform psychiatry and psychology?

    Psychology Today has devoted more attention to this possibility over the past twenty five years than you might imagine.

    Bright Lights, Big Mystery | Psychology Today
    http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200910/bright-lights-big-mystery?page=4

     
  20. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An online friend of mine wrote the following book…. I think that you would be interested in it.

    https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=https://www.createspace.com/4810190&h=yAQH-LnSb
    Elementary, my dear Walid
     
  21. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    good thoughts for the dead are needed

    the shock they go through if they have not trained their mind is great, they have to accept that they can no longer physically breath, ect, this causes some to panic, calming thoughts for the recently deceased can help them on their way

    most in this state of panic rush to the light trying to escape death, the light is the doorway to rebirth and it attracts you like a moth to a flame

    .
     
  22. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just read a highly intriguing writing on this topic:

    Stephen John:



     
  23. Soupnazi

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    Yes I thought about it and you are just silly.

    There is no evidence of such fraud.

    The evidence proves 19 Muslims hijacked aircraft and used them as weapons.
     
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    Short answer: yes. Seven million or more can easily be lying or delusional which in this context simply means they do not realize they are stating fiction.

    Any traumatic experience can cause someone to change for the better without the after life nonsense.
     
  25. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting!

    To a degree..... I must admit that you are at least partly correct because I have heard of events where a large number of people reported seeing a particular thing take place.........… and the conclusion that these people had to what they saw really left me wondering if they had any idea of what they had really seen????!!!!

    Anyway.... Soupnazi...… you and I and all of us......psychologically profile everybody that we come in contact with.......... as well as we can given what we see them do or hear them say...… or write...…

    Would you agree with me that Mr. Dannion Brinkley sincerely believed that his out of the body experience and near death experiences, (three of them now)....... were to some degree "real?"

    I personally feel that Dannion is very sincere...… partly due to the way that those near death experiences inspired him to alter his behavior.......


    http://www.thetwilightbrigade.com/dannion-brinkley.htm

     

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