Against my hopes, Trump did talk about election fraud at C-PAC, questions

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  1. Sirius Black

    Sirius Black Well-Known Member

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    No it means that American judges even those appointed by President Trump said it was not necessary for that to happen. A state can approve something without a legislative vote. Some of the money President Trump spent on the wall was not approved by congress, but he was able to it. President Trump did fabricate that it had to be approved by a state legislature. You did notice he didn't use the same measure for any state that he won. (see Texas which changed drop box regulations)
     
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  2. Lee Atwater

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    Now that you've had the time what did you find?
     
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    there have been 60+ investigations and every result was the same . there was no corruption

    and do not worry , more investigations will come during the dominion lawsuits against the pillow guy and trump and rudy .. to win their case , dominion must prove they are not a fraudulent company and the things they were accused of is false

    hillary claimed that the reason she lost was because the campaign against her spread misinformation and the voters were fed lies and that russia spent millions to help trump win .. she did not dispute the voting machines or the voting system ..

    big difference between what hillary whined about and what trump is whining about
     
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    republican and trump appointed judges said no.
     
  5. rahl

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    no it isn't
     
  6. Chrizton

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    IDK but Trump is not going to stop talking about election fraud because it is the one thing he can talk about the guarantees he will still get free press.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I found that when it comes to Donald J. Trump, courts have no problem bending the rules in favor of the left
     
  8. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what's your point? Republicans don't always side with Republicans. We have something called INDIVIDUAL CHOICES here on the right, and sometimes, it bites us in the arse, but it beats being a cult like the democrats
     
  9. rahl

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    that your statement "pro-left judges decided to ignore this law" was incorrect.
    again, this isn't a partisan issue. It's a legal issue. And every court this has been in front of, has told you that trumps claim is false.
     
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    why would republican appointed and trump appointed judges bend the rules to favor democrats? do you not understand how moronic that claim is?
     
  11. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I used to find such distortions of reality amusing. Now.........they scare me.
     
  12. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    because they are "BIG PICTURE" people. Its honestly probably a good thing. Can you imagine the laughing stock we'd be if they proved the voter fraud. Judges and most people on both sides want NO part of it.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am equally as scared of PRESIDENTIAL election rules being changed days before an election. Now THAT is SCARY
     
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    So its all a massive conspiracy to install a democrat into the white house. Trumps DOJ, trumps DHS, trumps Attorney General, Republican secretaries of state, republican governers, all 50 state election committees, every single court this has been in front of, republican appointed judges, trump appointed judges, all 9 supreme court justices are all in on this? lol
     
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    We both know that cannot be proven so I'm not even going to address that. People don't get caught in a GOOD conspiracy. The point is, all these last minute rule changes are SUSPECT and everyone wants to pretend like it didn't happen.
    I accept the fraud and want to move forward, which is why, if you would have read the OP instead of rushing to attack me, that I DON'T think its a good idea he brought up the fraud. I was just focusing on one tiny aspect of it, the last minute rule changes. A little rule in this state, a little rule in that one...they ALL add up.
     
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    Not true. There has not been a single investigation of voter fraud.

    That is how the law works. We all know that.

    Whining for whatever reason does nothing positive for the politician. Hillary is still whining and even wrote a book about it. Trumps whining pales in comparison to Trump's whining.
     
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    You are not aware that the Mueller report said there was no Russian collusion. Nobody since the Mueller report has said that the Russians had any effect on the election results - except for you, of course. It is an old, tired and incorrect talking point. I would suggest that Hillary has no honor at all. Millions of people think she should have been prosecuted in the same way that millions of others feel the same about Trump. We sure are good a choosing politicans aren't we? What a disaster federal government has become.
     
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    Good call to completely remove yourself from claiming some sort of massive conspiracy. Even you know that there was no such conspiracy, or fraud in this election. 2020 was an unprecedented year, as we were in the midst of a global pandemic. Rules were changed, and in accordance with the constitution. It's why every single court, both republican and democrat, has pointed this out. Rule changes happened in virtually every state, including republican states which trump won. But he nor his supporters care to question or mention those, and we of course know why.
    again, every single investigation to date has shown you there was no fraud. So if you claim fraud, you have to accuse Trumps DOJ, trumps DHS, trumps Attorney General, Republican secretaries of state, republican governers, all 50 state election committees, every single court this has been in front of, republican appointed judges, trump appointed judges, all 9 supreme court justices are all in on it. Which is hilariously moronic, and why you keep avoiding it.
    and as the courts told you, perfectly legal.
     
  19. Lee Atwater

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    Has it occurred to you your assertion would be bolstered if you provide the factual context? Or perhaps the opposite it true.

    The elections lawsuit pushed by President Donald Trump and dismissed Friday by the U.S. Supreme Court was filled with claims that failed to withstand basic scrutiny.

    The high court on Friday threw out a complaint filed by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton that directly attacked four other states that President-elect Joe Biden won: Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. Widely expected by legal experts to fail, the lawsuit still drew the support of 18 Republican attorneys general and 126 Republican members of Congress, including House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy.

    Together, Trump and his allies argued that the high court should set aside all four states’ votes, allowing Republican-led state legislatures to swing the election to the president. That would have been something that has never occurred in U.S. history.

    https://apnews.com/article/election...re-wisconsin-7791c43bb5c2c8521a60b7d141d760f3
     
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  20. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The above went over my head. Can you elaborate a little more on what you mean?
     
  21. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure. Your assertion is a pile of horseshit. See post #44.

    THE LAWSUIT CLAIMS: The four states that Texas is suing “usurped their legislatures’ authority and unconstitutionally revised their state’s election statutes.”

    THE FACTS: Trump and his allies have lost many cases making the argument that only state legislatures could modify election practices during the coronavirus pandemic. This lawsuit rehashes arguments already rejected by courts siding with officials who acted under their respective state laws.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Language! Take it easy! We can discuss politics without getting all feisty over it. The OP is about ONE thing, them changing laws last minute in favor of democrats and not having it approved the way its supposed to be. As of all the way through post 46, nobody has explained how this is OK. rules exist for a reason and i'm pretty sure that reason isn't TO BE BROKEN
     
  23. Lee Atwater

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    Not factually supportable.

    THE FACTS: Trump and his allies have lost many cases making the argument that only state legislatures could modify election practices during the coronavirus pandemic. This lawsuit rehashes arguments already rejected by courts siding with officials who acted under their respective state laws.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe not but that sure is a lot of BENDING or rules for one election. You can't expect people to not think its suspect. i'm sure if I dig deep enough I can find threads of you saying Trump didn't win legitimately, although that would be a little hard to weed through the 100+ threads of Russia Hoax threads, but maybe some day I'll look for it :)
     
  25. Lee Atwater

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    Spin the lawful provisions made for the unique circumstance of voting during a pandemic any way you feel you need to.
     

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