Against my hopes, Trump did talk about election fraud at C-PAC, questions

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    which was milked for EVERYTHING...no matter what fancy way you chose to word it, it still = SHADY (not you, the process)
    You can't actually expect most republicans to EVER have faith in the process again. Most of them are just hoping the right can learn to cheat just as well as the left at this point.
     
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    Note, I said the Mueller Report not the sugar version of the report that was broadcast by Atty Barr.

    https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf
     
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    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

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    Why didn't you have time to fact check? Wouldn't that be the first step before starting a topic?

    Nevertheless, he lied. He's a professional liar and very, very sore loser.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its a tough thing to fact check for ALL states. At least I'm questioning this stuff and not taking everything he says at face value and assuming its accurate. I agree, fact checking is also better but on this topic it was overwhelming when I tried
     
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    Here's the gist of it...He repeated much of what he's been saying since November 3, 2020.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...heck-election-texas-wind-turbines/6866838002/
     
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    Of course the Judicial in many states tampered with election rules when it was the sole responsibility of the legislature. It is true but never addressed. Funny to me how the media says election fraud was an out and out lie but would not allow it to be addressed outside of their control. Common sense says that where there was smoke there was fire but that could never be openly addressed. So if you want to believe the imbecile now in the white house was elected by an impossible margin.....go right ahead. We don't all have to agree.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course you'll always have your followers.....so did Sol Alinsky.
     
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    And I said "after the Mueller report."
     
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    What can't be proven is the idea that somehow the electionn wasn't fair and should be overturned.

    In accusations it incumbent on the accuser to provide the proof, not for the accuser to say you can't prove it isn't true.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not on the OVERTURN it bandwagon. Even if EVERY instance of fraud is investigated I still think we will end with 20 more Biden votes. I'm on the investigate and make sure it NEVER happens again bandwagon. Like I said, I 100% accept THE STEAL but I don't accept there being zero effort to prevent another one
    and Ya'll should stop pretending this has ZERO ties to mail in voting
     
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    If this is your position, then we are in more agreement than I originally thought. I absolutely support any investigation into election fraud and, if found, measures to resolve it so it cannot happen again.
     
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    I am for any effort to assure that future elections are fair. I am somewhat afraid that some of the steps being taken will be used to make it harder for people to vote in order to create political advantage. With more than 45% of the voters in 2020 voting mail in or early voting we need to make sure we don't over react and use a miniscule number of fraudulent votes keep a large number of voters from voting.
     
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    I'm sorta in the same camp you're in however, I believe if all the late votes in states where the rules were changed illegally were discounted we would see a different story.
    Have never for the life of me understood how leftists could complain that voter I.D., signature verification, and qualified mail in balloting ='s "voter suppression. Americans can put forth just a "little" effort for secure elections.
     
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    It is not hard to go to a precinct after registering, have your signature verified, and vote. In fact, it is so easy a Cave Man could do it. Democrats just want to claim minorities are just too dumb and lazy for that!
     
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    Its not hard to mail a ballot to the address of a voter who has already registered and requested one and then when it is returned check the signature and the address against the one on file.
     
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    Signature verification was done in every circumstance? Is that what you imply? I am saying it wasn't. You don't even address all the thousands or perhaps millions that weren't requested!
     
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    You assume I am in favor of unrequested mailings I am not at this time. In my state, signature verification, address verification, and registration are all required for a vote to be counted. There are safeguards in the system that catch those who cheat. I could see your concern if there was evidence of wide spread voter fraud linked to this but there is none. People who voted using the system and did not break voter laws should not be disrespected..
     
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    I assume nothing. People who voted and as you said "honored our laws" are disrespected every time a signature was not verified. That happened in several battleground states, Georgia being one of them. When election rules were changed by the judicial in battleground states when it was the sole authority of the legislature..... votes were disrespected. The mere fact that over 155 million votes were supposedly cast that far exceeded anything in any presidential election makes one suspicious. Especially ones where only Presidential candidates are checked. Why are these facts so often overlooked? Trump's votes exceeded 2016 nd Biden supposedly was far more popular than Obama? Give me a break!
     
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    Another hair....eh, I mean, horn on fire alert.

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