Ahmaud Arbery case: Black armed militias gathered outside the courthouse, issue warning

Ok, how was it more complex than that?

 

Because of the reasons they were chasing him and the context of the situation.

There are some situations where your argument would be right, and some where it would not.

Some would say those three did the proper thing, in chasing the suspect who was running and would not stop to talk or identify himself, trying to maintain an eye on his location until police could respond.

Others might say maybe that should not be justified.
But if you believe that, then I think there are laws that need to be changed regarding when police have a legal right to stop people.

But because of Arbery's response, I am not going to view this as a regular full murder.

 

How was it "hostile"?
Would you say there's a difference between chasing someone while happening to be with a gun, and chasing someone "with" a gun?

This depends on exactly how you define the word "threat", doesn't it?

If they used their guns in such a way to intimidate and insinuate that they were going to shoot him if he did not do something, then that would be very different from simply carrying guns during a chase.

 

Since citizens arrest is off the table it would be unlawful detainment which is a crime.

 

The point was that only an *******, or a stalker, would have tried to stop and catch him at all. But you go right ahead and defend those ******* stalkers...

 

So now we just kill the "suspect" so that they don't get away. Makes perfect sense, in a 3rd world country. And he was only a suspect because they said so but it is obvious he committed now crime beyond running and then dying black.

 

That's not what I said or meant. If he had not run at one of them the way he did, then shooting him would be murder.

And being only a suspect, there are only certain things they, or a police officer, should have been allowed to do to him.

You do realize that usually when a suspect refuses to talk and immediately tries to bolt and run away, police will usually detain them, and very often arrest them?
(I'm not saying whether that should be the way things are, but that is the way things are)

 

I don't think that a lot of people know that VP Harris's parents were part of the Afro American Association, a group that helped lay the foundation for what would become the Black Panther movement.

Knowledge of the history of these people goes a long way in understanding their intent behind these tactics.

 

What tactics?

 

Intimidation tactics.

 

You mean when vice president Dick Cheney accidentally shot Harry Whittington, a then-78-year-old Texas attorney, with a 28-gauge Perazzi shotgun.
Another example as to why Democrats don't need to handle firearms

 

yep, and he was a Republican, not a Democrat

 

You are irrationally accusing black people who are armed with all kinds of things.... as in now "a militia has no right to claim different actions based on a verdict of constitutional authority granted to the jury".... as if this is their goal and so they must be unarmed.... while it aint their goal at all. So this makes it seem that you're just posting white nationalistic stereotypical nonsense about armed black people for the sake to disarm them.

 

Key word... the offenders. That's the group who actually gets busted. Most violent crime goes unsolved.
They also looked at drug offenders... as in the group who actually got busted doing and selling drugs. It ends up that black people are 5 -7 times overrepresented. Almost half of all the prison sentences of 1 year or more are drug related. So this is an utterly massive group.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5614457/

While it's know that white people are the bigger drug criminals, and the police is less and less concerned about it....
https://www.release.org.uk/publications/ColourOfInjustice


So your actual complaint is, that black people get busted 8 times more on violent crimes.
And I say... so? Black people also get busted 6 to 7 times more on drug related crimes... and it means NOTHING!
You got the rather racist police force to thank for it.


How safe do you think a bet would be, when betting that black people get sentenced much harsher under the exact same circumstances?

 

Oh noes... I am saying that people are inventing things about armed black people for the sake to have their 2nd amendment revoked. And since it's that obvious that those people are making whatever up about those armed black people, it's them who make it seem that they are indeed racist, by absence of any other plausible explanation.


My suggestion? Accept that some people are racist and this is the way they express themselves.

 

It's okay you're still accepted here.

 

Rittenhouse? You're in the wrong threat.

I am not seeing any thread being made against jury members. It's also obvious nobody of the police thinks that death threads are being made. You're inventing nonsense in order to revoke the 2nd amendment for black people. The common sense about this, is that it seems you got an issue of black people being armed because they are black and have an opinion / free speech.

 

yeah, I misread it at first too, seems he was saying if white people can just shoot people that scare them, then black people will arm themselves and just shoot white people that scare them too

so if a black person goes to a kkk rally with an ar-15 and a kkker goes to get in his face, he could say he was going after his ar-15... and claim self-defense

or drive down the road after a white man jogging and surround him with guns drawn and if he tries to fight back... self defense

don't think this stuff happens, remember the white guy that harassed people parking in handicap spots and carried a gun, people do this sadly, they try to push people's buttons and they think a gun gives them that right

 

The only one in this thread making racist claims is YOU. Just because posters are calling out the Black Panthers for jury intimidation (Which is what they are trying to accomplish) doesn't make them racist. But you on the other hand are INVENTING scenarios that don't exist so you can play your racist card.

But you have been trained that way. We get it

So the question is, is every poster you respond to racist, or is it just you?

 

Oh, I'm certainly very open that other posters are seemingly inserting racist stereotypes.
What's the problem with that?

The accusation is that they are intimidating the jury and I'm not getting any quotes how they are doing that.
It's pure fiction! Hence those people are seemingly inserting racist stereotypes. It is what it is.

Trained? Ey? You're just doubling down on making black racist stereotypes with that training thing, as if I aint a human but on par with an animal.

 

Yes, I do realize a suspect can be detained by the "police" and I also realized that 99% of the time the "police" don't shoot an unarmed suspect. These people were not police. They were vigilante's that gave no consideration to contacting the authorities. They are murderers.

 

Common sense, as I said. Look it up.

 

That training thing, like what you have to do with a child or someone who slurps up everything they can find to play their race card or needs a fake meme to make a fake point..
So you run along now and let the adults talk.

 

You raise a child, you train an animal.
/facepalm

And so you did double down on inserting racist stereotypes.
So it's back to the drawing board for you.

 

No, you train children as well as raise them. People are trainable. Saying train a child is not a racist stereotype.