AIDS is rife in the Black community

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  1. KSigMason

    KSigMason Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Technically, that's why Planned Parenthood was created. To decrease the black population:

    "We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
    -- Margaret Sanger's December 19, 1939

    "Our failure to segregate morons who are increasing and multiplying ... demonstrates our foolhardy and extravagant sentimentalism ... [Philanthropists] encourage the healthier and more normal sections of the world to shoulder the burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of others; which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead weight of human waste. Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant ... We are paying for, and even submitting to, the dictates of an ever-increasing, unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all."
    -- Margaret Sanger.

    "[Slavs, Latin, and Hebrew immigrants are] human weeds ... a deadweight of human waste ... [Blacks, soldiers, and Jews are a] menace to the race."

    "Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent Multiplication of this bad stock."
    -- Margaret Sanger, April 1933

    "[Our objective is] unlimited sexual gratification without the burden of unwanted children ... [Women must have the right] to live ... to love ... to be lazy ... to be an unmarried mother ... to create ... to destroy ... The marriage bed is the most degenerative influence in the social order ... The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
    -- Margaret Sanger​
     
  2. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really?

    A quick google search revealed a plethora of organizations dedicated to prevention of HIV.

    http://www.avert.org/

    Your statement does not seem to be accurate.
     
  3. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why? Why would educating people be a bad thing? Why would we not have a vested interest in ensuring that folks are aware of a potentially fatal infection?
     
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    I'm surprised you'd 'settle' for prevention programs that don't seem to be effective. Good enough doesn't seem to be working... especially for young black gays.

    [​IMG]

    (MSM = men who have sex with men)
     
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    Your claim does not reflect anything I have said. I never stated I would settle anything.

    I simply pointed out your statement below was inaccurate.

     
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    Obviously it's not inaccurate... if you look at the stats.
     
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    Actually, it was. You stated the gay folks were too busy working on gay marriage to tend to AIDS education, and I demonstrated that they were not.

    It seems I was correct in the matter.
     
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    Does your being correct mean fewer young gay men will be contracting AIDS?

    Moot point.
     
  9. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it simply means I am correct.

    Education and prevention are the key.
     
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    I am not against educating/informing youths of the consequences or prevention of AIDS.

    But I dare say that in this country (US), there are few adults that are unaware of the issue. It isn't a lack of education, rather it's a lack of personal responsibility and self control, regarding promiscuous sexual behavior (leading cause).


    ...just my personal opinion.
     
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    Tell that to the 15 yr old who was just diagnosed HIV+. I'm sure it'll make him feel better to know you think you're correct.
     
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    Why? I don't know him or her and have no need to torture children.

    I am simply correct.
     
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    I believe they are aware, and it would just be a waste of money....If they have not got it by now they never will...
    How many people in their own neighborhoods must die or be infected before they ''catch on''', dont you feel they have a clue by now?
     
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    How come that key has not worked for teenage pregnancies?

    http://www.minoritynurse.com/turning-tide-teen-pregnancy-minority-communities

    The teen pregnancy rate in the United States peaked in 1990, Albert says, and declined every year through 2005. In those 15 years, the teen pregnancy rate dropped 37%, but those numbers have begun to creep in the other direction, according to the newest data available. Between 2005 and 2006, the pregnancy rate among teens increased a full 3%.

    America has the highest teen pregnancy rate of any Western industrialized country, and within certain racial and ethnic groups, the numbers are disproportionately high. Among Hispanic/Latina teen girls in the United States, 53% get pregnant at least once before the age of 20, according to the National Campaign. Among African American teen girls, the figure is 51%; for white, non-Hispanic teens, it's 19%.

    "One way to look at it is to say that more Latino and African American teens get pregnant than don't. If that isn't alarming, if that isn't a call to action, I am not sure what is," Albert says.

    I am not saying ''Nothing'' should be done, but I do not believe spending Millions is the answer....a certain percentage just wont learn...or do not care...
     
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    I agree... it's not that gay men don't KNOW about AIDS. My personal opinion -- the fact that 'most' gay men have multiple sex partners added to the fact it only takes ONE careless encounter to become infected equals a very dangerous combination of probabilities. Add booze & recreational drugs and the odds are even higher.

    Considering how AIDS is on the rise again, I think mature gay men should be the ones mentoring the younger generation of gay men... but unfortunately, I don't think that's possible. :omg:
     
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    theres nothing wrong with decreasing their population, they aren't able to sustain a growing population given their setbacks
     
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    If I wanted to discuss teen pregnancy I would go to a thread where that was the topic.
     
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    I believe you realize I am using it as a comparison, to show how eduction can only do so much...
    I could have made the point with drugs as well....
     
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    Wow!

    Even through eugenics or extermination? That is what Margaret Sanger was pushing for.
     
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    But the youth in Japan do have plenty of indiscriminate sex with eachother. It is just that no one ever talks about it. You are lucky AIDS has not really made its way into Japan. If it ever established itself, it could easily spread like fire. It is a good that you all have such a disdain for foreigners, which is probably what is keeping HIV out. Just one of the many advantages of keeping it within the race!
     
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    What you do not realise is that eugenics and extermination are necessary and inevitible- it is just a question of when. China is already beginning to deal with its problem, and plenty of horrors await India. Better to deal with the problem now then later. The measures will only have to be more drastic the longer we wait.
     
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    It is a fact that AIDS and HIV exists. I have seen patients with HIV viral titers in the hundreds of thousands and CD4 counts less than 10 waste away and die from AIDS. Were the labs all in on the conspiracy? Were these now deceased patients part of the hoax as well? Now THAT'S dedication to the AIDS "myth." :roll:

    At the same time, I have seen HIV patients with very low CD4 counts and PCP pneumonia saved after being placed on appropriate therapy. Are they part of the scam too?
     
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    eugenics isn't neccessarily evil, it can be used for good its just in the past it was used for evil under hitler

    it all depends though, they should have a choice to participate in it as in the proposal of the previous post
     
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    This is why I'm not a liberal or a fascist.
     
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    Supporting eugenics shows an appalling level of arrogance. To support eugenics you have to believe that certain people have no right to exist or procreate. You have to believe that you have the right to determine what traits make a person worthwhile and what traits are are unacceptable in a human. Worse yet those judgments are always made by physical or mental attributes that fall beyond that person's control.

    I don't know of anyone I would trust to make such judgements.
     

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