Alabama’s Draconian Abortion Ban Has Women On Twitter Ready To Fight

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  1. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    Then remove it and raise it
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is a part of her Body until it is born, at which point it becomes a separate being. This is the biological reality, devoid of your emotional blackmail attempts.
     
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    Prove your claim that a baby - a living human- exists in the early stages of pregnancy ?
     
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    Like it could be anything else....
     
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    A potential person only
     
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    Can it be removed from the woman and grow on it's own? You seem to be avoiding that pertinent question......
     
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    Semantics
     
  8. Bowerbird

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    No
    Until born it remains only a potential person

    A foetus prior to viability has no legal identity
     
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    In your opinion based on preference alone.
     
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    NO, based on science and law.....:)
     
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    Of course it can be something else - that is why we call a zygote - a zygote - and not a living human.

    The zygote is a single human cell - a living human is not a single human cell.. and a human heart cell is not a human.
     
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    That's your opinion
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The claim that the zygote is a single human cell - is not "Opinion" - it is scientific fact. You are now in denial that water is wet land.
     
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    No that part may be true but the implications you draw from it are your opinion.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You inferred that the zygote could not be anything else - other than a living human. I simply pointed out that your claim was false - by stating the fact - one which you agree with - that the zygote is a single human cell.

    You are the one that is of the opinion that a single human cell = a living human. My claim is simply that you have not shown or provided proof that shows this claim is true. That is not an "opinion" either .. it is statement of fact.
     
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    The cells or cell are 1, alive 2, human
    They have no potential to ever be anything other than human, they can be alive or dead.
    While they are alive. They are human life.
    You can try to complicated it with scientific terms all you like. Calling it a zygote is just a stage of life, just like toddler, teenager, middle age or elderly.
    Complicating terms for scientific accuracy changes nothing.
     
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    So when does the mother lose her status as an independent living human with her own rights? Seems she just becomes “sperm receptacle and incubator in your eyes.
     
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    She has the same rights she always has.
    No one has the right to end human life without due process or in the case of the protection of life and property.
    Abortion is a special right to end human life.
     
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    I am not going to go any further than this - just too painful. Why are you saying this.

    1) alive + 2) human = "Living Human"

    Are you claiming that a zygote is a living human on this basis ? - that it is both "alive" and "human" ?
     
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    Twisting my words again are we?

    I said a zygote is human life. That is undeniable true.
     
  21. Daniel Light

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    Now you just have to prove the woman isn’t protecting her own life when she decides to abort - given that ANY pregnancy can result in the death of the mother and not all such complications are identifiable prior to labor.
     
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    For that matter a teenager can threaten the life of the mother, should i prove that her teenager won't be a psycho?
     
  23. Daniel Light

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    Try again. That analogy sucked.
     
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    Nope it didn't you just don't like the consequences.
     
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    I didn't twist anything ... I asked for clarification "Are you claiming that a zygote is a living human on this basis ? - that it is both "alive" and "human"

    I can rephrase if you like Are you claiming that a zygote is human life - but not a living human - on the basis that it is both alive and human.
     

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