Almost Unbelievable This Still Goes On

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  1. Irrational thinker

    Irrational thinker Well-Known Member

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    Remember this guy? Cody Lyster. After he died, the media jumped on the bandwagon immediately. Cody was the youngest to die in CO of Covid blah blah. What does that tell you when Cody was 21 when he died? Funny that he was the youngest at 21 in the entire state. Worst part was, the media said he has no known risk. Judge for yourself.

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    This one too, remember? Leftists said she has no known risk but on a ventilator because of the virus. Dig deep through several sources and the truth revealed that she is a heavy smoker, two packs a day.

     
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    The deniers will claim it's from covid.
     
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    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ She forgot to get the latest "booster" ... :blankstare:'
     
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    I wonder why? :puke::blownose::buggered::sick:
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    As long as they are using the PCR based tests the illusion will continue. Using a test not designed for diagnostic purposes FOR diagnostic purposes is the very foundation of the scam.
     
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    They don't want to take off the blindfolds.
     
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    What do you mean “not designed for diagnostic purposes”?
    Where did you get this information?
     
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    Irrational thinker Well-Known Member

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    Lol.. I believed that was the case with one of my staff members. Her neighbor was infected. She talked to her neighbor outside the neighbor's front door for like 20 seconds. Neighbor later admitted that she has virus. Employee was frighten and took test at the hospital. Result came back positive. She took another test, antibody test several days later. Result came back negative. She never had the virus.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    English is my primary language, and I use words in accordance with dictionary definitions, so get a dictionary out if you have one.

    Until Next Time has provided links to help you understand. Are you bold enough and curious enough to read them?

    Package inserts on the PCR test make that statement. You missed that and many other important details.
     
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    As usual misinformation is being presented by members who don't possess enough knowledge to understand that what they are linking to is misinformation. The people publishing this misinformation are either doing so knowingly or are just too stupid to understand that they don't understand what they are writing about.

    Back in 1997, the inventor of the PCR test was supposed have said: “Anyone can test positive for practically anything with a PCR test, if you run it long enough with PCR if you do it well, you can find almost anything in anybody. It doesn’t tell you that you’re sick.” There is no record of him saying that. One cannot test for just anything using PCR tests.

    The PCR tests designed to detect the SARSCoV2 virus are highly specific. The inventor, Dr Mullis, of the PCR test did not invent the PCR tests being used specifically for covid19, he also died before the pandemic started. PCR tests were invented in the 1980's so years of research and improved technology have produced the present PCR tests.

    PCR Covid-19 tests are very sensitive and they rarely fail to detect the genetic material of the covid-19 virus, if it is present. They are also very specific meaning they often don't show false positives. No test is 100 percent perfect though so you will always get false positives and negatives.

    As far as PCR tests for covid-19 not being diagnostic. That is more misinformation based on idiots not understanding much about anything.

    The PCR package insert states:
    https://www.fda.gov/media/140717/download

    Results are for the identification of SARS-CoV-2 RNA which is generally detected in respiratory specimens during the acute phase of infection. Positive results are indicative of the presence of SARS-CoV-2 RNA; clinical correlation with patient history and other diagnostic information is necessary to determine patient infection status. Positive results do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease. Laboratories within the United States and its territories are required to report all results to the appropriate public health authorities. Negative results do not preclude SARS-CoV-2 infection and should not be used as the sole basis for patient management decisions. Negative results must be combined with clinical observations, patient history, and epidemiological information. Testing with the SARS-CoV-2 Test Kit (Real-time PCR) is intended for use by qualified laboratory personnel specifically instructed and trained in the techniques of real-time PCR and in vitro diagnostic procedures. The SARS-CoV-2 Test Kit (Real-time PCR) is only for use under the Food and Drug Administration’s Emergency Use Authorization.

    2. SUMMARY AND EXPLANATION The SARS-CoV-2 Test Kit (Real-time PCR) is a molecular in vitro diagnostic test that uses Taqman probe-based technology for the qualitative detection of SARS-CoV-2. The product contains oligonucleotide primers, labeled oligonucleotide probes, and control material used in real-time RT-PCR for the in vitro qualitative detection of SARS-CoV-2 RNA extracted from respiratory specimens.

    To make it clear -- what is quoted from the insert is supposed to mean:
    • Results are to be used for the identification of SARS-CoV-2 RNA ;
    • Positive results are indicative of the presence of SARS-CoV-2 RNA;
    • clinical correlation with patient history and other diagnostic information is necessary to determine patient infection status.
    • Positive results do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease. So if you are positive for the virus you still may be infected with other pathogens which may be causing symptoms rather than SARS-CoV-2.
    • Negative results do not preclude SARS-CoV-2 infection and should not be used as the sole basis for patient management decisions. So if a patient has a negative test and has no sense of smell, high fever, bad cough, difficulty breathing -- those symptoms should be treated even with a negative test. This is when another test would be requested.
    • Negative results must be combined with clinical observations, patient history, and epidemiological information.
    So basically, the SARS-CoV-2 PCR test certainly is a diagnostic test in that it detects the presence of infection with the virus. The presence of a positive or negative test does not dictate treatment decisions, symptoms do. Any information trying to claim that these tests were useless and do not test for the covid virus is BS. The number of people who have tested positive with these tests had the virus in their body. It is not an indication of whether they were sick (have the virus and symptoms -- symptomatic) or not sick (have the virus but not showing symptoms -- asymptomatic). It is an accurate count of the number of people having the virus after being tested. It's not really an accurate count though because millions were not tested who had the virus.

    So the links provided by UNT are rife with BS and misinformation.
     
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    My GOD only a dishonest person who has a no understanding of what the RT-PCR test is about would choose to omit the following, or they have a complete lack of mental acuity of what is being presented in the rigged PCR tests nonsense.

    The hand picked government purveyors of these bullshit covid tests tell you right there in their literature that their tests are complete garbage and designed to give positive results from anything under the sun including other infections with other virons. And they specifically tell you that their bullshit covid tests with detect other ailments like Urinary Tract, Bladder and Kidney infections throughout the whole gamut from things like abscess tooth’s, sinus, streptococcus and every other infections that billions of people around the globe deal with every day.

    “Positive results do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease.”


    Plain and simple their contrived and CON-cocted tests were designed specifically to pop out as many billions of FAKE positive covid tests in order for the them to pull off this FAKED pandemic and whole-cloth viron.
     
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    Really? When the cycle for the test should only be 24-27 cycles. Our covid test stations were doing 35-48 cycles. Of course, then many false positives show up. Even the WHO claimed the PCR tests were rubbish. "False Positives"

    Inventor of the PCR test :below:
    Video: Dr. Kary B. Mullis. “No Infection or Illness Can be Accurately Diagnosed with the PCR Test”

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/kary-...-illness-can-accurately-diagnosed-pcr/5757224
     
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    This didn't work when covid was really prevalent it's not going to work now.
     
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    The links I provide, one of which WHO admit the PCR tests have problems.
    Only someone defending their poor judgement would suggest that it's BS and misinformation. On the contrary, it has more merit than the crap we where all force-fed, to begin with.
     
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    ~ Like the black & white disclaimer on surgical masks warning that they are ineffective for Covid-19 virus ... :?'?
    ~ It's curious why some are so adamant about covid-19 matters that are unreliable, misleading and in some cases actually fraudulent ... :confuse:'
     
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    And the masses were swooned by Perry Como, apart from a minority who had ear plugs in. As Pfauci, WHO, CDC, FDA & MSM all sang :below:

     
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    Lol.. by the way, the flu is making a comeback after AWOL for two years.
     
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    Yeah, isn't that funny? Covid is taking a break.
     
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    Of course it is. The precautions taken to drop the spread of COVID also stopped the spread of the flu. Now that we are loosening the restrictions then the flu starts spreading as well. It’s not exactly rocket science.
     
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    It’s surprising that people aren’t aware of the ways in which disease is spread.
     
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    Yeah, for most, it's all in their heads.
     
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    Another apt, albeit accidentally so, analogy.
    Information is being shared and the anti vaxxers had ear plugs in.

    Naaa-Naaa-Naaaa I can't hear you!
     
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