Am I responsible for the actions of those in the past?

We fought a civil war abolishing slavery over a hundred and fifty years ago I would say that we don't think it was fine.

If you want your reparations go dig up the corpses of the people that wrong with your ancestors. You're getting squat from me.

 

Most decent human beings do not really care.

Everything that you have said about Obama so far has been incredibly racist since you make his race the defining aspect of his entire persona.

Barack Obama is Barack Obama, he is not a race.

Yeah, 'cause that is totally what I said.

It is not about being colourblind in the literal sense - different people obviously look different. The point, however, is that these physical differences are a big "so what?"

I notice, but I do not really care nor do I keep a count.

 

What do you mean?

Is this sarcastic or are you serious?

Who the heck is America?

What on Earth are you talking about?

 

No, not all segregationists are dead. You think because slavery ended so did racism. We have segregation in this country and because that becomes illegal you think suddenly racism disappears? Throughout our history black people have been defined as inferior human beings and the problem is it has internalized by white people and black people and will take several generations to change that

 

no I doubt racism will ever disappear I just don't care about it. People are allowed to be racist.

this is some absolute horseshit. Cognitive thought is not something that's generational.

 

We know. We see white people dictate the terms of existence for black people all the time. Constantly reminding black folk that they're helpless, and that only whitey can fix things for them.

 

I guess you feel the same way about homophobia. I’m sure you don’t care about it and people should be allowed to be homophobic.
So you think that telling black people that they are not good enough to sit near white people and have to go to inferior schools and have to drink out of different fountains, isn’t defining them as inferior? I wonder how you would feel if they made all gay people sit in the back of the bus. I want to how you would feel if there was a sign on the door that said “no homo perverts allowed” I wonder how people would feel about homosexuals and I even wonder how homosexuals will internalize those messages. No it’s not horseshit

 

For 300 years they have been treated like garbage. They have been defined as inferior human beings. No one tells black people that they are helpless but there are plenty of white people that tell them they are inferior. And yes whitey can help them the same way men helped women get ahead. You seem to think that everybody starts at the same place

 

Jesus .. what century do you live in, Renee?

Meantime, yes, people should be 'allowed' to be 'homophobic'. Of course. Otherwise we're no better than totalitarians.

 

That is not what the interned Japanese-Americans thought and they were paid by our ancestors for the wrong they committed..

 

BS. People of colour with far more recent atrocities perpetrated upon them have not wanted or needed Whitey to give them a leg up. What offensive nonsense this is, to suggest that your pet brown people can only be fixed by you, Whitey.

And no, I'm damned certain that we don't all start at the same place .. I've known (brown) people who watched their family members murdered brutally in an ugly war, were then starved, then spent years in concentration like refugee camps, before coming to the West with absolutely nothing, at a time when there was far more actual racism. And yet they made good within a single generation. Then you have soft Westerners who've had every possible advantage and no trauma in living memory, still bleating their helplessness. Why are they doing that? Because Progressives tell them they must. They tell them their race makes them helpless. They utilise black people to asuage their 'white guilt', and don't care what impact it has on them.

 

Yes I do. I don't believe in thought crimes.

None of those things are legal and they haven't been for 55 years. If this was 1974 you'd have a point. But you don't.

There are places in the world currently that exterminate gay people. And feminists kiss ass with the culture that does it. I don't have to dig back through history from half a century ago to find it. If there is anybody saying gays are inferior it's feminists. No it doesn't make me feel inferior.

Linda sarsour and the women's March promoted the philosophy of genocide against gays.

 

Good, let’s fight for homophobes! They should be able to ban gays from dancing together..so totalitarian..LOL
I live in the right century. But I am also old enough to remember about segregation. You seem to not understand that when a group of people are told they are inferior for hundreds of years and it suddenly becomes illegal that poofs all racism is gone. It will take a few generations for that to disappear
You seem to deny psychological insights. There are still many people out there who believe gays are perverts because of their sexual orientation. There are still plenty of gay people who are in the closet because of their low self-esteem because they have been defined as sick. It took a long time for homosexuality to be accepted...But you were always able to be in the closet. Black folks can’t deny who they are
I would think that a person who is in a state going to group would have more insight and compassion for another .

 

It was 1964 but ten years makes a difference LOL
Of course it’s women who are saying gay men are inferior. That’s why they beat them up and call them perverts etc. yeah right it’s women. I wonder why so many gay men have women friends. Yes Linda Sarsour promoted genocide against gays. I hope you’re putting me on because nobody could be this silly. The only reason that we support certain countries is because they exterminate day people..Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds? I am sure there are plenty of men who would like to see gay men exterminated. Look how repulsive they get when they see two men kiss but they get turned on when it’s two women
I don’t want to go through your women hangups again..I don’t know what happened to you but obviously women hurt you

 

No it's feminists.

Strange the only way to say gay people are inferior is to beat them up. But suggesting any body else is inferior doesn't.

women aren't all feminists.

She promotes Sharia law, Sharia law requires extermination of gay people.

Sarsour doesn't represent a country she represents an ideology.

No male feminists are preoccupied with humping feminism women.

Two women kissing is also considered gay and against Sharia law.

Always back to ridiculous ad hominem when you can't argue.

 

I can’t deal with this sickness Bye

 

Translation; you can't argue you're finished, if you want to help feminism say you aren't a feminist it'll be the best thing you could do.

 

Generalisations about heterosexual men are fraught with danger, especially if we make the mistake of ignoring cultural brainwashing.
Recent psychological and anthropological research suggest there’s an evolutionary survival component in straight men’s aversion to gays.
It’s a very complicated landscape with features from questions about how ‘straight’ men are turned on by masturbating whilst focusing on their own penis to differing responses to male and female pheromones. Hovering over all this though is the :misogyny aspect of straight men denigrating gay males because they’re ‘more like women’, as if that’s a negative. My 73 years on the planet have taught me one thing though about straight males. The more secure they are in their own ‘masculinity’ and heterosexuality the less they are likely to be homophobic. Then we have the questions that arise out of the sexual flexibility straight men demonstrate when in jail or all male environments such as the army. The suppression of male/male sexuality in military history shines a fascinating spotlight on all this. Do I need to draw attention to Alexander the Great and a number of today’s generals?
https://www.amazon.com/One-Boys-Homosexuality-Military-During/dp/0773537147
https://www.smh.com.au/national/a-secret-history-of-sexuality-on-the-front-20121220-2bp9m.html
gay war history bibliography

 

At the same time doing everything to ensure that black babies aren't born, and that black boys don't grow up with a father at home.

It makes me wonder if this whole experiment is just a stupid mistake that people insist on continuing to make, or if it's something more sinister.

The research is pretty conclusive boys that grow up with a father in the house tend to be more well-adjusted and more prosperous. We've done it the traditional way and we've done it the non traditional way. The former work better.

Feminists are amazing to me the amount of contradiction they exist in. women are too stupid and pathetic to succeed without men making special exceptions for them, without their Noble hero feminism. but the second guys lose interest and dating women all hell breaks loose. Men are stupid or immature all they want to do is play video games. Feminists want the been admiring them and vying for the reflection but they just destroyed that because it's patriarchy.

I really hope the men in this country start opening themselves up to the idea of dating outside the country let all these spinsters die off maybe they'll take their s*** ideology with them.

 

How many are we talking about exactly? Can you give us an estimation?

They?

How mature.

 

I use the analogy of an oppressed group. I have this guy on ignore for a while because his hatred for women sometimes scares me
Rather than attack the messenger answer what I am defending. Do you believe it is women who believe in equal rights (feminists), who want to beat up gay people?or do you think it’s mostly men who are homophobic.
Do you really not believe that men get repulsed when they see homosexual men kissing? And check out porn two women having sex is a turn on so it is an about homosexuality is it? I call it femiphoba

 

I suppose homophobia can manifest itself in other ways than just in the form of physical violence.

"Repulsed" is quite a strong term. I am kind of prude and find excess affection - whether homosexual or heterosexual - in public spaces to be highly inappropriate.

Being turned on by women is "femiphobia"? And did you just confess you are turned on by two women having sex?

 

Of course it can but it is stupid to say that women are the worst when it comes to discrimination against homosexuals.
Hate to break it to you but I am not talking about you. I have worked with adolescent males and they were repulsed by homosexuality. They used to go to the village and beat them up. Thanks goodness that attitude is changing

No I did not confess that I’m turned on by two women having sex that is a guy thing. Since it is interesting how men who are so homophobic don’t mind watching women have sex. So it isn’t about homosexuality because they don’t want to see men but they want to see women. Men doing anything women do is put down. A lot of guys who do feminine things are called ******s . But what they really are doing put down women. Being like a woman is such a bad thing. That’s why it femi phobia

 

Well, if that is his experience, then it is his experience.

Women are capable of evil too, you know.

What is this, 1827?

Hate to break it to you, but the sites that provide that kind of material have asked their consumers about their habits and published results that show that "lesbian porn" is the most popular among female viewers.

Heterosexual men are turned on by women and not by men, so obviously they will be more turned on by two naked female bodies than by two naked male bodies.

Ah, yes. Bullying a boy is in fact bullying a girl because girls are always the victims, aren't they? Girls are just cute, adoreble and fragile and bullies beating up "Johnny" for wearing a pink shirt are actually beating up all the girls and women of Earth.
#feminism#wecandoit#strongindependentwomyn

 

Such an almighty muddle of thoughts!

I said NOTHING about fighting for 'homophobes' (whatever that even means). I said policing thought is outrageous. Totalitarian, scary, evil, wrong.

Sure, people told they're inferior for a long time will take some of that on. But any residual damage is made FAR WORSE when long after your institutions stopped doing that, certain individuals are still telling them they're inferior.

Compassion is manifest in respect for potential agency and self-reliance. Regarding everyone with the same access to the same opportunities etc, as your equals. Cruelty is manifest in compelling people to stay on their knees because doing so meets some need in you (GY), and because you literally believe yourself a saviour. When you do this, you are not seeking equality, you are seeking to extend your tenure as saviours, and also because you (GY) know that if black people are your equals it would mean living side by side (in the truest sense), and that would reveal your own issues with race.