Amazon Shutting Down PARLER

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

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    IMO companies should be able to choose their customers, but let's not pretend getting booted was simply about political opinion. I have plenty of raving Trump supporters in FB and all they ever do it post political stuff and they are allowed to do that. It takes more than that to get booted.
     
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    Amazon sells product, i.e. tools that is used to express political opinion.
    It is like Office Depot sells the paper that can be used to print flyers expressing political opinion.
    Using your logic Office Depot is entitled not to sell product if Office Depot executives feel bad about Trump supporters.
    Do you think it is ok not to serve black person in the restaurant if that person supports BLM?
     
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    Government/corporate/media/academia suppression of free speech is also a big part of history. Here is how it works. Facebook/Twitter does what it’s told and cancels conservatives and their platforms and government does not crack down on Facebook accumulating, processing, and selling the personal information and behaviors of individual users.
     
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    I just said it was NOT about political opinions.

    Using my logic Office Depo has the right to have a customer removed if they start threatening other customers or staff. You don't agree with that because you think such behaviour is a civil right, and making threats is simply free speech.
     
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    ANTITRUST QUESTION OF THE YEAR: Why was Parler censored by a cabal of its competitors?

    I saw a piece published two days ago, The Moderation War Is Coming to Spotify, Substack, and Clubhouse, that addressed how Parler was censored and destroyed by Apple, Google, Twitter, Facebook, and Amazon, and then warned that Parler won’t be the last.​

    The given reason, of course, was people were saying violent things on Parler and all the biens pissants are, of course, shocked, shocked that this was “permitted.”​

    It might be different if the double standard weren’t so glaring. As Amazon was canceling Parler’s hosting — in apparent violation of their contract — they were selling “Kill All Republicans” tee-shirts, and it turns out that while Twitter and Facebook were canceling Parler, the actual mob was coordinating on Twitter and Facebook.​

    It’s a conspiracy in restraint of trade, straight up.

    Plus: “It’s worth noting that Amazon deplatformed Parler after members of Congress demanded it. That makes it a real First Amendment violation as well as a violation of the right to free speech which the First Amendment exists to protect. So somehow competitors are being shut down in a coordinated fashion by effective monopolies with governmental support.”

    Related: Parler CEO and family in hiding after receiving death threats. All in the name of fighting “violence” and “hate.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/426609/

    No one is fooled. I look forward to the dismemberment of the clowns that coordinated to destroy Parlor.
     
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    Dunno. Got an Antifa post on twitter and FB? Can you post one?:icon_clueless:
     
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    Facebook/Twitter does what it’s told and cancels conservatives and their platforms and government does not crack down on Facebook accumulating, processing, and selling the personal information and behaviors of individual users. Facebook revenues come from selling the personal information of their users without their permission.
     
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    It wouldn't be anything public.
     
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    It is a well known fact where FB revenues come from (high tech advertising), but they do have your permission. You gave it when you agreed with the TOS. If you don't like it, you don't have to use their services. You think some dark entity tells them what to do, but the truth is that they'll do whatever makes long term business sense.
     
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    Users have no legal recourse and politicians have no backbone to do anything about this. And it is obvious that there is an anti American anti free speech basis for which is allowed by government and paid for by campaign contributions.
     
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    There is nothing to be done. They have every right to control their own platform.
     
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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/technology-46618582
     
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    Oh, my....what kind of data are you storing in Facebook? Bank accounts? They sell your interests. If you browse for DeWalt power drill, then you are probably going to see an ad in Facebook about it. They don't care who you are, they just know you are a person interested in a power drill, so they sent an ad. If you don't like it, you don't have to use it. I would never store any data of any value in social media, and that includes this discussion board. If you do, and its lost, you have only yourself to blame.
     
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    Targeted advertising is just getting started, really.

    My husband has some sort of arthritis, though still no formal diagnosis. We've been searching online about all the various forms of arthritis, for weeks. Now, when we watch TV, we get hammered with commercials for all sorts of arthritis medications. Last night, we searched for a few random things that have nothing to do with us. If we start seeing ads about pregnancy related things, soon, I'll report back.
     
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    Its been happening for some time now, but obviously it gets more sophisticated as time goes on. I don't watch main-stream TV, except for sports and few other things, and have not noticed anything in TV, but it happens all the time in the net. I know what they do, so it doesn't bother me, and I don't consider browsing habits personal information. I consider the internet an open forum (like a library or a cafe), where we use other peoples resources and where we can be seen and heard. I would never store anything in FB that I am not willing to become public. People store personal information in the net and then they cry out to the government to keep it safe. IMO that is a failed mindset. We are responsible for out own data. Use a firewall and encryption if you have to, but don't expect others to protect your data.
     
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    Agreed. One thing the technology lacks, though, is the ability to know when I've already purchased something. (Which is a good thing for us, the consumers.)

    I ordered my Kitchenaid mixer back in December. I'm still getting ads for it on all pages that have targeted ads. It will only change after the next time I need something that costs more than a few bucks, and I research and purchase.
     
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    This is the kind of data scraping (called hoovering in Europe) that Facebook and others are doing in the US which is illegal in the EU. In exchange for deleting conservative content the US Congress has not taken any legal action to prevent this activity. That's how it works.

    https://money.cnn.com/2018/05/25/technology/gdpr-compliance-facebook-google/index.html

    And no, the Communications Decency Act of 1996, “Protection for Private Blocking and Screening of Offensive Material,” 47 U.S.C. § 230 is not neutral platform legislation.

    Bokhari, Allum. #DELETED (pp. 198-199). Center Street. Kindle Edition.
     
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    I see, you're making it up.
     
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    It works like that in the world of QAnon and 8Chan.

    80% of content I see in FB is conservative and mostly misinformation.
     
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    Your comments ahave nothing to do with the arguments I’ve presented. QAnon??? That’s what is called deflection, and a weak one at that.
     
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    Read this morning that Parlor is stumbling back online. Apparently microsoft is allowing them some behind the curtain access and parking their site on their servers while they find a more permanent home.
     
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    Gates should be doing everything in his power to get Parler up and running. Gates is a strong supporter of education and free speech is critical to education.
     
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    What do you think you'll get when you post stuff without a shred of proof, because that is what Qanon does.
     
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    But yelling fire in a crowded theater is disastrous for those in the theater. Lately, USA is the theater.

    Isn't Gates implanting chips in every human vaccinated?
     
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