Amazon Workers in Alabama Vote Against Forming a Union

With 72% of ballots counted, about 71% of the Bessemer, Ala., warehouse workers voted against joining the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union

Almost 3 to 1!

Not surprised workers have been rejecting unions for decades. Oh I'm sure we will hear things like "well it was pressure by the company" or "it was anti-union propaganda" or the classic liberal elitist "workers in Alabama don't know what is good for them their just stupid Southerners".

None of the above, workers across the nation have been and continue to reject working in unionized work places. Reading interviews with workers some of whom had worker in unionized workplaces they simply don't see a need, do not like working union workplace rules and unions using their money for political purposes and plainly do not see a need for them.

So this gets to President Biden who is only concern with creating union jobs and forcing people into union jobs. WHY? Why doesn't he listen to the actual workers in America? Is he so oblivious to the real world the real workplace the real workforce? Why isn't he supporting more freedom in the workplace by supporting more right to work lawsbjnstead of the opposite. In his seniltlity does he really think this is back in the 1950's?

"Amazon. AMZN +1.24% com Inc. employees in Alabama voted not to unionize, according to a Wall Street Journal tally, handing the tech giant a victory in its biggest battle to date against labor-organizing efforts after the contest fueled national debate over working conditions at one of the nation’s largest employers.

With 72% of ballots counted, about 71% of the Bessemer, Ala., warehouse workers voted against joining the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union, according to a Wall Street Journal tally of votes. The number of votes against a union exceeds 1608, the total needed to reach a majority of the 3,215 mail-in ballots sent in by workers. The National Labor Relations Board continues to count the votes live on a broadcast and hasn’t yet declared an official winner."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon...ing-set-to-resume-11617960604?mod=djem10point

 

Wow and crickets to this highly anticipated vote?

 

If people are rejecting unions... why was there a need to vote in the first place?

 

And we have seen middle class wages when compared against our wealthiest going down for the same decades. The rich getting richer while the middle class get poorer while working their asses off.

 

I guess Amazon drivers in Alabama are happy as a pig in **** while having to piss in bottles in their trucks.

 

If an employer satifies his workers with wages, benefits, and work schedule a union is not needed. If an employer expects his employees to work in unsafe conditions, with poor wages, and terrible hours a union is needed.

 

When union employees get dismissed it has to be with PROVEN CAUSE FOR DISMISSAL. When unrepresented workers get fired it's don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. You can bet canned without cause.

 

And I do believe that is the law in Bama.

 

Just like you can leave the workplace at any time, subject to any notice required in your contract.

 

Every union contract I've seen, and my techs are union thugs, has seniority rated higher than performance as a deciding factor when layoffs and/or promotions occur. The younger workers who are usually better get screwed. Why do unions hate young people?

 

Unions desperately using their legal powers to call for them. And it's not "if".

 

But if unions are on the way out... then why would they try to organize? A better strategy is to go to the courts.

 

Not Republican policies and these worker are quite happy with their wages and jobs by almost 3 to 1. You think you know better than they?

 

What are they going to get in court?

 

Yes both the employee and employer can terminate their agreement as they chose.

 

A judge that will side with them.

 

Which some of the Amazon workers who had previously worked union workplaces said was a reason to reject the union.

 

Obviously not needed here.

 

People forget the gang style violence of the union movement. People forget who started unions too. We do not like communism now.

Unions want to manage workers. The unions create rules for workers companies never would try.

 

This is not an unusual vote for union certification. The auto unions have been trying to get the auto plants to unionized to no avail. The steel mills, the one up the road has the union trying again. The workers DON'T WANT THEM.

So will Biden come out and say he supports these workers and that he will no longer only care about unions and union workers and increasing union membership? Private sector unions barely make up 6% of the workforce. He's WAY behind the times of the modern workforce.

 

Workers don't like those union workplaces anymore with their seniority and protection of lousy workers. And yes the last union I was in was at a huge shipyard and when I was signing my papers I was handed the for for the union. Right to work state too. I had just fought to get out of a union at my previous job. I told the person who was handling my sign in I didn't want to join. He lowered his voice and leaned over and told me if I didn't I was likely to have my windshield smashed, tires slashed and an "accident" in the yard. I signed.

 

On what? Their desperate bogus claims of illegal activity by the company. The union got the vote they wanted. The company wanted voting tents set up on the plant site so workers could cast their in person secret ballot. The union want ALL mail in voting and ballots sent out to all workers. Of course early on there were reports of ballots going to people who no longer worker there. People didn't like having to identify themselves on their ballots, unions have a tendancy to be vindictive.

The unions main complaint now is the company actually wanted to set up a USPS temporary mailbox at the gate........OH MY.......and that was done to INTIMIDATE the workers.

So what exactly is a judge going to do in a vote that was almost 3 to 1.

 

So they wanted a secret ballot?

 

I had been in a construction union when offered a job by a different VP of a construction company to work for him in management. I took his offer and on this day, I drove the company pickup truck issued to management to a site that was on strike. I needed the chemicals to keep my own job running. I told the strikers I wanted to enter to talk to management there. management loaded my truck with chemicals and as I got to the exit gate the union stopped me. They started to unload my truck and I told one of them they were open to a lawsuit. They put the chemicals back and I drove off. The following day they turned over a truck as it was at the chemical warehouse.

 

We had two papermills back to back here years ago. One IP the other Scott. Scott went on strike, over workers being trained to operate more than one machine and having to clean up around their machine if it went down for some reason. Scott brought in management from other sites and contract workers to keep the mill running. One night the union sent it's thugs in to slice tires of the "scabs". Well the thugs they brought in got confused and were actually in the IP parking lot and slit the tires of those union workers. Scott called a local tire company to come in and repair the IP tires that had been slit, the union didn't, and then hired them to keep a tire truck on site during the strike and fix ANY flat tire they saw whatever reason it was flat or replace it.