America confronts Trump's destructive legacy

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  1. signalmankenneth

    signalmankenneth Well-Known Member

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    It will take years to repair the damage the clown Trump and his court jesters have done to our country?!! I like that, president Biden is overturning all of Trump's executive orders?!! I would like to see the democrat's make gains in the senate in 2022, we got a lot of work to do?!!

    In a momentous week, America confronts a new reckoning with the negligent, destructive legacy of Donald Trump.

    The ex-President faces an unprecedented second impeachment trial over a historic insurrection against Congress and an attempt to steal an election that profoundly wounded US democracy.

    His successor, President Joe Biden, is meanwhile intensifying his national rescue effort from the other crises that Trump left behind, as new viral strains cloud recent good news in the battle against the coronavirus pandemic and with millions of Americans hungry and jobless and out of school.

    Nothing is normal about an extreme moment in America's modern story with a political system assailed by extremism, truth under assault and a country desperate to emerge from a once in a 100-year plague.

    One year and four days after then-President Trump was first acquitted by a Republican-led Senate of high crimes and misdemeanors, the now Democratic-steered chamber will sit in judgment again Tuesday, over his seditious summoning of a mob that stormed Congress, in a trial that could last up to several weeks.

    The proceeding will restore the full glare of Trump's compelling but malevolent influence over Washington three weeks after he left office in disgrace and will challenge Biden's efforts to fully establish his own new presidency.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cy/ar-BB1du2vL


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    Trump's Election was not only the biggest Mistake in Electoral History...
    But, Trump's Election initiated the period starting on Jan. 20, 2017--Which is STILL ongoing--and represents The Biggest disruption of American Domestic Tranquility since the Civil War.

    ^And, that is 100% on Trump.


    It will take decades (and maybe even generations) to reverse the damage that Trump has done to the USA.
     
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  3. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not to the USA, my friend, to the Liberalism - and I don't think you have enough time to reverse that, not even with the National borders thrown wide open to the future democratic voters aka Illegal Aliens.

    Thank you, President Trump, for great 4 years :applause:
     
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    Sure - if you want to thank a President for the LOWEST GDP average increase of any modern President ... just 0.4%. In contrast,
    even Obama had a 1.6% GDP average increase - and Carter had a better GDP record than the Orange One even BEFORE
    Covid.
     
  5. Indlib

    Indlib Well-Known Member

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    I am getting the impression you dont know what liberalism is. What part of liberalism is it you don't like?

    Can you point to the Democrat that advocates for open borders please?
     
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    Conservative Max Boots: The Worst President. Ever.:
    “Until now, I have generally been reluctant to label Donald Trump the worst president in U.S. history. As a historian, I know how important it is to allow the passage of time to gain a sense of perspective. Some presidents who seemed awful to contemporaries (Harry S. Truman) or simply lackluster (Dwight D. Eisenhower, George H.W. Bush) look much better in retrospect. Others, such as Thomas Jefferson and Woodrow Wilson, don’t look as good as they once did,” he wrote. “So I have written, as I did on March 12, that Trump is the worst president in modern times — not of all time. That left open the possibility that James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Franklin Pierce, Warren Harding or some other nonentity would be judged more harshly. But in the past month, we have seen enough to take away the qualifier “in modern times.” With his catastrophic mishandling of the coronavirus, Trump has established himself as the worst president in U.S. history.”

    “Trump is characteristically working hardest at blaming others — China, the media, governors, President Barack Obama, the Democratic impeachment managers, everyone but his golf caddie — for his blunders. His mantra is: “I don’t take responsibility at all.” It remains to be seen whether voters will buy his excuses,” continued before pronouncing, “But whatever happens in November, Trump cannot escape the pitiless judgment of history.”
    Opinion | The worst president. Ever. - The Washington Post
     
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    Come up to a higher level and see the REAL tragedy, gentlemen --

    Obama ruled the country during his entire second term with "a pen and a phone" -- and 'Executive Orders' (decrees).
    Trump ruled the country during his term with very much the same 'pen and phone' -- thus, more Executive Orders (decrees).
    Now comes Biden, who's already ruling the country with a 'pen and phone' and -- guess what? -- more Executive Orders (decrees).

    Both political factions in the LEGISLATIVE BRANCH of Government fight each other like mad dogs, and now look at what we are! We have devolved into a nation that is increasingly and dictatorially ruled by Executive 'pronouncements', 'proclamations', and DECREES!

    [​IMG]. "Admit your silly colonial mistakes and then come back the Crown!" :sun:
     
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  9. Dutch

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    American Liberalism is what I do not like.
     
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    Hmm. I didn't see any geographic distinctions on the definition of liberalism in the dictionary.

    Please, fill me in on what the media has told you "American Liberalism" is?

    Did you find the dem that advocates for open borders yet? Perhaps you got Democrat confused with libertarian? They support open borders.
     
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    Trust me, Dutch... my German friends assure me that their own inbred versions of hyper-liberalism (on a scale that would be hard for most American even to imagine) is rapidly ruining their country and the entire EU also!

    It really is a kind of strange, angry, self-destructive mental condition that damages and ultimately destroys everything it comes in contact with -- mostly because of its dreadful projection of 'neo-socialism'.

    When you find a 'neo-socialist', in ANY country, you'll see some parasitic scumbag trying to steal what some other person has earned!
     
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    When you clearly send the message our laws will not be enforced, you encourage violating those laws. It's common sense.
     
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    So by that logic I can make the statement that Trump supports open borders because he largely ignored employers of illegals which is what most illegals come here for in the first place.

    It is probably less confusing if we call open borders what they actually are and not extrapolate definitions based on policy views.
     
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    Spoken like a true card-carrying Democrat and a sleepy Joe admirer :buggered:
     
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    Trumpsters never minded it when Trump was the one singing the orders.

    In fact, they cheered. They cheered when Trump’s orders cruelly discriminated, when they reflected Trump’s belligerence, and especially when they had no real effect at all.
     
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    Not a democrat and thinking ICE should be hitting farm feilds and construction sites, arresting illegals and fining the dogxxxx out of employers so they are forced to hire Americans does not make me one.

    What do you think ICE should be doing? Running around like glorified policemen arresting a gang member or two? That doesn't seem to be working.
     
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    I can't deny it, Tom... indeed, Trump overturned Obama's 'decrees', and now Biden is overturning Trump's 'decrees'.

    Both your liberal faction and my conservative faction are 'to blame'. I see, and say that, but the liberal faction would rather DIE than admit that they ever have practiced such a thing. So, we'll never really get anywhere, and the only people who are happy are THESE two --

    [​IMG]. "Yeah, nobody gives ME any crap about MY 'pen and phone', either...." 8)
     
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    That's a strech, mine is more direct. Basically they are announcing a halt to deportations. So why would illegals not come here?
     
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    My conservative friends back in Texas (my old native state) tell me that they're already bracing for 'caravans' of illegal aliens and mobs of bogus 'asylum-seekers' which will be SWARMING into the Lone Star State by this fall. It'll be like the bus-top and train-top invasions that Obama's regime turned a blind eye to in 2014, only much worse this time....

    [​IMG]. "Ola, cabron! So, hurry up and show us the FREE STUFF!" :knifefork:
     
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    Well, they look like a pleasant family, wonder what they are paid to smuggle a bambino?
     
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    I don't think it is a stretch. Most illegals come here to work and employees are happy to hire them. The lucky may even get work at Mara lago. If companies did not hire illegals, our illegal problem would take of itself for the most part.

    Can you tell me why Trump, or any administration for that matter, refuses to attack the problem at the source? Why are they looking the other way when it comes to employers?

    Also I didn't read it as a halt to all deportations. If memory serves, it stated that ICE will not be reacting to what they consider to be minor infractions.
     
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    You know, I'd agree with that if that was what sleepy Joe was saying. Nothing of a kind - let's not deport crime-committing Illegal Aliens is what I'm hearing.
     
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    What do you consider to be a minor infraction?
     
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    It isn't what I consider. I was merely repeating what I remember from the article in a thread, that isn't this one, from a couple days ago.

    Perhaps we should be asking these questions in that thread.
     

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