America The Protector.

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  1. JAG*

    JAG* Well-Known Member

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    No intelligent discussion up there.
    I'm trying very hard to come up with some reasons
    why I ought not to put you on ignore and then forget
    forever that you exist.

    JAG
     
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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    FoxHastings said:
    :) If he is then he's doing a ps-poor job of it...



    :roflol:

    A. So "god" only created America ?

    B. Uh, it's still a ps-poor job.

    C. " god" and you think ps-poor is OK if other places are worse ?

    (Very low standards...you'd think "god" could do better)

    D. "god " needs excuses ?



    :) I knew those questions couldn't be answered ......."god" isn't the only one with excuses ;)
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is just all wrong.. The function of the military is no longer to protect your freedoms, but to take them away.

    From a Biblical Perspective - the US would be the "Whore of Babylon" depicted in revelations.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    what a crock, try reading a little history before your keyboard runs away with its mouth.

    Czechoslovakia VOTED ON A REFERENDUM IN A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS TO BE ANNEXED TO GERMANY!

    It was fought over which religion was going to dominate europe the WJO declared ww2 a holy war in the name of the jews. you have been given references before, apparently your memory is failing
    falwe
    freedom comes when EVERYONES religion is protected as the highest principle.
    No as usual you fought and died to protect zionist jew interests.
    so are yours, zionist interests are not 'all religions'
    the propaganda sales pitch is meaningless to the underlying reason
    its a well known fact americans did not want to get in either ww
    so a situation had to be created so the not so savvy patriots would jump up and become lambs to the slaughter of another zionist created war.
    and we know that claim is false
    yeh its the modern age of information, SOME people, those that actually pay attention are beginning to wake up to how they are are being criminally manipulated by those who are hell bent on desroying everyones religion but their own.
    He thinks he is despite getting the facts wrong in most cases.
    yeh well I did, feel free to search the board for my previous posted references.
    That the zionist jews started the war, with complete disregard for the freedom of others impose their religion, like the coverup of the holocaust fraud by passing laws to throw anyone in jail that denies the holocaust.
    2 thumbs up on that!
     
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  5. JAG*

    JAG* Well-Known Member

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    Not a single word of what I said was a "crock."

    Here is the whole quote:

    JAG Wrote:
    "America militarily protected Christendom and God's developing
    John 3:16 Human Race Love Project from tyrannical
    enslavement by Hitler's German Nazism in World War 2
    (1939 - 1945) with some 400,000 American military deaths.
    Freedom isn't free or cheap. World War 2 deaths worldwide,
    all causes, is estimated total 70 -85 million. Father, Lord
    Jesus, Holy Spirit we pray for Your blessings and protection
    upon America and America's military."__JAG

    In World War 2, it is a FACT that America's military protected the
    world from German Nazism. And some 400,000 Americans died
    doing that.

    Christendom refers to the worldwide Christian Church and my
    "God's developing John 3:16 Human race Love Project" is merely
    my way of referring to the human race.

    To say that the American military did not protect the human race
    including all religions and all peoples from German Nazism is
    historical nonsense.

    And what Czechoslovakia voted on, offered as proof that my
    statement is incorrect -- is an absurd offering.

    Best

    JAG
     
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  6. joesnagg

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    Hate to say it but culturally we're damn sure headed that way....
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hate to say it even more -- but we are already there - Name something the Pentagon has done to protect your freedom in the last 2 decades.

    Answer - Nothing. The one possible answer the koolaid fed masses might come up with is "Fighting Terrorism" .. unaware that the Pentagon spend most of the last decade arming - supplying - and supporting Al Qaeda .. and when not doing that .. Turning Secular nations into Jihadist wonderland.

    Ohh .. sorry .. the Pentagon was protecting us against Saddam - thats it .. big threat to US freedoms that guy was .. goona be a "Mushroom Cloud" if we don't act.

    The NSA was formed to spy on Foreign Threats - not to spy on US citizens - "En Mass" The Budget of our "Intelligence service" - an Orwellian Irony as one of the main jobs is to create propaganda - is 130 Billion including the "Dark Project" budget.

    How much is 130 Billion per year ? Double the entire Federal spend of Mexico - thats how much - a nation that is 11th in the world in terms of purchasing power. .. Thats how much..

    And to do What ? - Spy on US citizens - create propaganda to "manufacture consent" for various policy items - visit FB and Google and "encourage" them to censor information that challenges "necessary illusions" and/or dogma du jour.

    Where is this massive army massing on our shores - threatening our way of life and freedoms.. Russia? China ? Sorry mate - neither going to be attacking the homeland any time soon .. due to the fact that we are a nuclear superpower. .. no worries about your freedoms from them.

    Al Qaeda / "Terrorists" - covered them - we are the ones arming and supporting them -

    So what is the 1.2 Trillion dollar annual spend for ? Surely we could do something better .. find some other make work program to throw a third of our income at ... but I digress.

    The job of the Pentagon is to take away your freedoms .. not maintain them. We could secure our freedoms - secure the homeland with less than 100 Billion/year Total.
     
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    JET3534 Well-Known Member

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    It is hard to grasp how the DOD can spend so much money defending the United States and yet thousands upon thousands of illegals swarm into the country on an ongoing basis. WTF do we need a military for if invaders can just walk into the country at will and we are the ongoing subject of a bio attack (Covid), cyber attacks, and information operations.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is a gravy train for the Military Industrial Complex .. "The Purpose of the F-35 was to send money to Rayethon" Pierre Spray - one of the team of those who brought us the F-16 and the A-10.

    What do we need 18 Aircraft carriers for - to fight who .. Iran ? . as that is most powerful nation in the world who we might be attacking their homeland. We can't attack Russia - China .. heck we would not even attack North Korea - on account of nukes.

    Whats more - is that these aircraft carriers are obsolete first day on the job - in the face of "conventional" weapons - modern missile technology - of which the Russia -India-China consortia is best in class .. not that they need to be .. US can take out carriers with their missles as well .. should one venture anywhere near the homeland of one of these nations .. but what has been true since the mid 90s - when Russia came out with the worlds first Supersonic sea skimming anti ship stealth missile .. "Sunburn" - a decade ahead of anything we had - and no way to defend .. is not true of many other nations outside the consortia .. Turkey - Iran - and numerous others .

    This is how it goes mate - a cycle in history - that has repeated over and over .. From Rome to the last 3 world economic/military Empires - spanish dutch , british.

    On the way up -- Technological innovation leads to military superiority - which leads to economic hegemony. - thing of the first scene in "Gladiator" - The Brit's had the gatling gun - with one gunship could take over an entire African nation - fighting back with sticks and stones. The Return on investment is high .. and life is good.

    On the way down - Technology spreads - companies outsourcing being a main factor. You create a widget that everyone wants .. as you go international it is far more cost effective to produce that widget closer to the nations buying lots of them - and got to love the cheap labor.
    Said nation learns technology - and about the time Supply is finally catching up to demand - competition sets in - supply now greater than demand .. so not only do you lose market share - of a decreasing market - the profit margins shrink

    was bit of a digression - as military technology spreads - that African nation gets "the Gun" - which has turned out historically to be a much better defensive than offensive weapon (Think storming a hill with machine gun turrets manned by Nazi's) .. Now ... one gunship will not do .. you have to send an entire armada - at tremendous cost - and will take many casualties -

    As technology / know how - spreads the cost of projecting power increases - to the point where the ROI becomes negative - and it is just a game of trying to maintain hegemony - which drains the nations coffers - instead of building them - such that any nation who has tried to maintain hedgemony after this point - has gone broke.
     
  10. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    No.

    I strongly disagree with what you think "evidence" means.

    And, I strongly disagree with your assumption that correlation indicates causation.
     
  11. JAG*

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    "Strongly", eh?
    Not moderately, but strongly.
    Interesting.
    Are you getting emotional? The word "strongly" indicates that you're getting emotional.

    By the way, the OP and my follow-up post is rather brief and there is not much in there
    to squabble and bicker over.

    Then too, this is the Religion Department of the forum and well you know that religion has
    a lot of FAITH in it ~~ THAT is what religion IS. So? So this is the FAITH department
    of the forum, NOT the Science Department.

    What specifically in the OP or the follow up post is it, that has your neck hairs tingling?
    Aw, com'on you can tell Uncle JAG all about it.

    Best.

    JAG
     
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  12. Mircea

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    Oh, right, we forgot. You are the authority since Christianity is tyrannical causing the deaths of more than 8 Million women alleged to be "witches" (apparently your god-thing is too damn dumb to understand there's no such thing as witches) and 100s of Millions of people.

    The only time you weren't tyrannically slaughtering people is when you took time to issue Writs de Heretico Comburendo where you burned people to death for not wanting to believe, or for believing slightly differently.

    And then there's the 42,000 people you murdered in a single day in a French city, because they had a slightly different belief.

    At the gates of the just before the slaughter of 42,000 men, women and children began, the Poop's military commander asked the local bishop what should be done with the innocent.

    The bishop replied, "Kill them all. God will know his own."

    And then there was your tyrannical ecclesiastical courts that forced people to pay taxes to their church district, whether they went to that church or not and whether they were even of that sect or not.

    Yes, that happened in the US right up until the 14th Amendment was passed and bound the States to the Constitution.

    A religion that condones slavery and teaches one how to be a good slave is inherently tyrannical.
     
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    JAG* Well-Known Member

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    Cheer up and lend your ear to what the great Russian writer Alexsandr Solzhenitsyn said about America."

    "The United States has long shown itself to be the most magnanimous, the most generous
    country in the world. Whenever there is a flood, an earthquake, a fire, a natural disaster, an
    epidemic, who is the first to help? The United States. Who helps the most and unselfishly?
    The United States."__Alexsandr Solzhenitsyn

    Best Regards,

    JAG
     
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    Pretty prejudice version of history you have their friend.

    Zionist J-Ws declared a holy war in total betrayal of the Christian Germans that gave them refuge from Russian oppression.


    Holocaust Museum
    The German Churches and the Nazi State


    The population of Germany in 1933 was around 60 million. Almost all Germans were Christian, belonging either to the Roman Catholic (ca. 20 million members) or the Protestant (ca. 40 million members) churches. The Jewish community in Germany in 1933 was less than 1% of the total population of the country.

    These were some of the reasons why most Christians in Germany welcomed the rise of Nazism in 1933.

    They were also persuaded by the statement on “positive Christianity” in Article 24 of the 1920 Nazi Party Platform, which read:

    "We demand the freedom of all religious confessions in the state, insofar as they do not jeopardize the state's existence or conflict with the manners and moral sentiments of the Germanic race. The Party as such upholds the point of view of a positive Christianity without tying itself confessionally to any one confession. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit at home and abroad and is convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only be achieved from within on the basis of the common good before individual good."

    https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-german-churches-and-the-nazi-state


    [​IMG]


    Murca FOUGHT AGAINST Christianity!
     
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    Not a single word you said, refuted a single word of what I said in my post
    that you quoted. It does not matter if 100% of the German nation was
    born-again shouting 100% dedicated ordained Pentecostal preachers
    that spoke in tongues ~~ the FACT remains solid and strong that
    German Nazism was out to enslave the world and some 400,000
    Americans fought and died to stop that from happening ~ which was
    my point.

    Best

    JAG
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    bullshit, germany produced higher quality goods at lower prices than any other form of guv. Rags to riches, people dying on the streets of poverty to owning 2 cars and a house in a lowsy 6 years under Hitler. Hitler was such an economic success britain had to take him out to preserve the fraudulent debt monetary system of the jews and britain.

    britain dropped the first bomb not germany, britain did terror bombing, britain attempted holocaustal genocide against the german people, and now the jews made sure laws are passed so no german can talk about how they got ****ed and are getting ****ed today.

    I guess in your mind economic prosperity is slavery.
     
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    I have zero interest in your vulgarities or your opinions.
    I want no part of your world.
    You can live in your world and I will live in my world.


    JAG



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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    History not opinion.
    Those blind to history are guaranteed to repeat it.
    The truth will set you free.

    https://www.aparat.com/video/video/embed/videohash/D0AHR/vt/frame


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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow, more anti-Semitic bigoted OCD.

    Seek help, before this consumes you.
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    This doesn't make sense. It was Hitler who was anti-Semitic.

    And, the cause for western nations to oppose Hitler was not opposition to his actions against Jews.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    In the Wannsee discussions the germans stated that the Jews caused constant economic disruptions, much the same thing we go through here with one banking debacle after another. So its not a groundless opinion I cooked up, its a quote. Anyone who has studied keynes economics and debt based monetary system knows the score.

    HItler ditched the banks (same as abe lincoln) and like abe he had to go. Hitler wrote somewhere that he had deep admiration for lincoln, and he took the germans from poverty and rags to riches in only 6 years, a feat never before accomplish in history. Needless to say you make a lot of enemies ditching the banks with that kind of track record. He simply had to go!
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    He rallied Germany around the idea that Jews were the only real problem.

    The US didn't enter WWII in order to support the banks. Nor did we enter WWII to save the Jews.
     
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    so whats your point wil?
    I didnt say they went into ww2 for the jews, they went into ww1 as a result of the zionists.
    All wars support the banks
     
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    We entered the war, because Hitler was conquering European countries.
     
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    Meanwhile you lied, claiming that the Jews betrayed Germany during WW1 and deserved to be punished for what the Jews "did" to Germany. You have also accused the Jews of having collective guilt for Christ's death, and for deserving exile by all the many European states that exiled us

    You are nothing but a Nazi apologist and Jew-hater. May God have mercy on your hateful soul.
     

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