America wants a Modern America, not a Duck Dynasty America

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  1. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    We all know what a Duck Dynasty America looks like. Just look at the Robertson's. Trucks, Uber-Christianity, NRA-enthusiasts, all whites, this America makes up the 30-40% of Donald Trump's hardcore base. Mostly in the South.

    People wonder what the Democratic Party represents? It represents a yearning for a Modern America. Look at how the Democratic House looks like versus what a Republican Senate looks like. The former, made up of those aligning with different faiths and races, looks more like America, not a country club. I don't think its merely coincidental that Republicans are largely white, Christian and yes, male. As 2020 approaches, the Republican Party is looking to put a Duck Dynasty America up on display for the world to see, like 2016 did. The reason people like Bernie Sanders radiate with the country so greatly is because America wants a Modern America, that looks more like everyday America and functions like the way America should. Since 2016, we have seen what a Duck Dynasty America looks and acts like, and its beginning to infect other places in the world, ask Christchurch.

    Americans from Pennsylvania to Nevada to Florida have had enough of Willie Robertson in Washington. Yes, the browning of America is healthy. Yes, Muslims in America are healthy. It's okay Christianity and English are not a majority in America. It's going to be a harder fight for Trump in 2020 than a lot of supporters believe, because a grossly disliked figure like Clinton is not running. And Trump was equally as disliked as Clinton in 2016. If 2018 is to be an indicator of anything, chances are a Democratic successor is more likely in 2020 than 2016. Arizona is becoming bluer, and Texas is becoming competitive.

    And the Willie Robertson's of America should be put on notice.
     
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    struth Well-Known Member

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    What’s wrong with an America that supports and grows small businesses like the robinsons? The left represents destroying small businesses
     
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    Actually social democracy is associated with higher self-employment and firm creation.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Alt-lefties hate ingenuity and capitalism. They want you to don your black pajamas and march over to the government owned Duck Call manufacturing plant.
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Though I concur with your first premise--the religious conservaties have become fossilized, I disagree with your second--the democrats offer a utopoian future. The future belongs to the creators with vision, ambition, and a love of life and a respect for the inviolable sovereignty of the individual. There is one such movement. It isn't Socialism. It's Objectivism.
     
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    Great...we have that here now, under our latest leftist controlled pollicies brought us double digit unemployment
     
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    I agree that socialism isn't necessarily the movement of the future. But objectivism? As in Ayn Rand?:roflol:
     
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    Not if you're American. You have neoliberalism (i.e. market fundamentalism). It a right wing outcome perfect for corporate rent-seeking behaviour.
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As in: to think is to know, to know is to understand, to understand is to create, to create is to build the future, to build the future is to live it now, as in Ayn Rand's Objectivism.

    Does not Objectivism admire and defend the man of vision? Does not Objectivism respect and honor the man of integrity? Does not Objectivism bless production and achievement? Does not Objectivism proudly proclaim: It's your life; live it as being of reason with the achievement of your happiness as your moral justification?

    Your life, your decision; your laugh, your risk. Give it go.
     
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    Skipping the rest of your post, amusing as it is, and tackling just the factual claims in it...
    No it isn't. America is fast turning into a third world country thanks to the browning of America. I live in one of those third world areas, and it's a shithole.
    No they aren't. Everywhere Muslims become a significant percentage of the population, they cause significant problems for that society, from England to India to Indonesia to China to Nigeria. If you want to see America's future, look at any of those places, or simply look at Dearborn, Michigan.
    Christianity and English are still the majority. If they ever stop being the majority, this won't be America any more. It will be something else entirely.
     
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    Yes we have a democracy, and a market based economy that encourages businesses, corporate or otherwise, and private property
     
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    You forgot to actually respond to the post. Neoliberalism doesn't translate into textbook 'market based'. Its refers to rent seeking running amok, leading to severe inequalities that have no bearing on merit or economic efficiency criteria.
     
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    Not sure where you are getting your definition..nor why you have issues with private property rights
     
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    The definition is well understood, so no excuses. Neoliberalism is a failure. Crikey, even conservatives such as the IMF admit that it harms economic activity.

    Please don't make stuff up. I've referred to the reality of neoliberalism: it allows corporate rent seeking behaviour to go unchallenged (by definition, harming property rights). If you can't respond to what is typed, save your keyboard.
     
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    How so? There are all sorts of laws in the United States in regards to landlord:tenet behavior.
     
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    So you don't understand the term rent seeking? See rent in terms of "inefficient profit" (from the deadweight loss associated with monopoly power to the underpayment of workers, breaking supply and demand criteria)
     
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    Sounds like you would have murdered the founders because they were of english ancestery, white, and left it up to the brown people of the world to create the US. Of course, you would have had what is the history of those nations south of our border, but this would suit the dems just fine.

    It was the children of white europeans who gave us this constitutional republic, not muslims, nor any other brown people. I know, it has to gripe the hell out of some people, but low IQ people are easy to get things wrong, and screw things up.

    We will watch and see how long it takes the brown people and the democrats to destroy what the higher IQ white people created, here, in australia and new zealand.

    When I look at the world, it is not that hard to see who created the modern world, and I got news for you, it wasn't people with dark skins, but light skins. And I don't feel the least bit guilty about that. I think some white americans see this, and for some sick reason, feel guilty about the achievements of white humans. It is probably a mental illness causing this guilt.

    Nothing wrong with letting brown people immigrate here to enjoy what white people created here in america. But you better keep enough white folks around to insure we don't turn into mexico.
     
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  18. struth

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    We have anti trust laws in the United States as well which don’t allow monopolies
     
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    Basic error. Monopoly power refers to the ability to maintain rent (in modern economics its referred to as "abnormal profit").

    So your position is essentially based on not understanding the economics behind the US economy?
     
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    Given what has happened in New Zealand, this forum should be a tad more careful in how it allows such blatant racist hatred. Indeed, those that tolerate this type of hate should be deeply ashamed.
     
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    We have a market based capitalist economy. We allow people to maintain profits...that’s sort of the point.
     
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    Again, you simply don't understand the difference between rent and normal profit. The former is automatically related to economic inefficiency.

    You've confirmed the answer to my question, mind you.
     
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    I haven't watched them in some time, but I have not seen anything that indicated they were racists. They had some black guests on the show a few years ago.

    One of my sons worked for several years in Australia. Duck Dynasty was a favorite over there.
     
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    I understand the difference between abnormal and normal profit...I just don’t see a company where that is happening in the United States, we have antitrust laws in place to prevent that
     
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    You haven't understood the difference between monopoly and monopoly power. Of course this is just one element of the rent that subsequently feeds the US inefficient wealth distribution. Of course, if you'd like to celebrate the gross inequalities and pretend otherwise, be my guest.
     

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