American False Flags and Proof Thereof!!

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Because so many other facts support its basic theme?

    I like the quote attributed to William Casey: "When everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation programs".
     
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    Right and the earth is flat according to the lunatic fringe.
     
  3. Bob0627

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    Or everything the US government told us about JFK and 9/11 is true, according to the ignorant and gullible masses who certainly aren't "lunatic" or "fringe", just ignorant, gullible and/or apathetic.
     
  4. Iriemon

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    I think that your implicit argument that the government has been dishonest about some things in the past (like Vietnam) means it has been dishonest about everything it has ever announced (like the earth is round) is also a lie is not logical.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You've been shown actual, real photos (and videos) of the earth that are not "composites, artist renditions, or completely computer generated" many times. You just baselessly claim they're fake. Why bother.
     
  6. Bob0627

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    Unfortunately, the US government hasn't been dishonest about some things, it's been dishonest about almost everything significant (like Vietnam). And that's not theory, it's historical fact. So the problem is not that one may believe the US government is dishonest about everything, the problem is that the US government is a pathological liar and untrustworthy. So given those facts, why would anyone take anything the US government claims on faith? Why would anyone fail to question EVERYTHING the US government claims?
     
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    Because when it comes to some things (like the Govt saying the earth is round) there are so many people -- in and out of the government -- that would have to be involved in this massive, centuries long conspiracy, it strains credibility to believe the government is lying. Plus the fact the earth is curved and deduced from our own observations.
     
  8. jrr777

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    This group of people that created the lie, they are positioned in far more areas then just the government. If you think that's impossible, over a very long period of time. Might I remind you, that's how empires have always worked.
     
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    If your wife or husband is always lying to you, what than do you believe, or do you even stay with them?
     
  10. Iriemon

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    Yes, I realize it must be a vast, vast, vast, vast, vast, *vast* centuries long conspiracy of tens of thousands from all over the earth who are dedicated to keeping us stupid and thinking we are on a sphere. : )
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nutjob Internet videos produced by idiots I know nothing about, of course.
     
  12. jrr777

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    If your wife or husband is always lying to you, what than do you believe, or do you even stay with them? All governments do is lie. Because they always have to keep covering it up, hints, "classified" or "top secret". And people allow for such non-sense. It's classified and top secret, because it will bring them down. Thus we don't get to see (whatever the case may be), the truth. Which is truly the only thing worth fighting or killing for.
     
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    I understand that according to you I'm an idiot. And when it comes the shape of the earth, I very well may be. But you do realize, being ignorant on one matter, does not mean one is ignorant in all matters. Here it's obvious you cannot answer the question (which was outside of flat earth), or you just don't want to. So you present an answer that is "ignorant" on the matter.

    Nutjob internet videos has nothing to do with the question.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What question?
     
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    The US government was never the entity that decided the Earth is round (more accurately, it's an imperfect sphere). And for centuries most (if not all) governments claimed the Earth is flat and most everyone believed it. In fact, some were tortured and murdered for believing the Earth is a sphere. In any case, the shape of the Earth is NOT the subject of this thread nor did I ever bring up that silliness YOU did. This is about American false flags or more accurately about US government false flags.

    Despite, I see you're not interested in a serious discussion, you're more into liberally inserting red herrings into your posts. You must be one of those who believes the US government wouldn't lie about anything important.
     
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    No, it wasn't the US government. It was the tyrannical government of Rome. Do you not know where the ball earth comes from? I can assure you, I am not ignorant in the "heliocentric model" or it's "origins".
     
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    If your wife or husband is always lying to you, what than do you believe, or do you even stay with them? All governments do is lie. Because they always have to keep covering it up, hints, "classified" or "top secret". And people allow for such non-sense. It's classified and top secret, because it will bring them down. Thus we don't get to see (whatever the case may be), the truth. Which is truly the only thing worth fighting or killing for.
     
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    Again, WRONG THREAD, stick to the subject or start your own thread on the shape of this planet.
     
  19. Iriemon

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    NASA is an entity that has posted many images of a round Earth. I just gave an example of the round earth as something the Govt has asserted that I think is true. It is very relevant to the author of the OP. Sorry if that got your panties in a knot.

    Why would you think that? Do you always make assumptions about things you know nothing about?

    It shows.
     
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    This is about US government false flags, not my wife.
     

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