Ancient Stone Works/Megaliths

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  1. Cosmo

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    Argument from incredulity.
     
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    Answer pulled from your azz.
     
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    These people had nothing better to do, than carve stone, to make something other than houses.
     
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    Thanks for admitting that you have nothing intelligent to add.
     
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    But that is not what you said, you said the Imaria. DO NOT blame me that you are unable to spell.

    And yes, they Aymara actually were literate. As were the Tawantinsuyu and Cusco before them. They were literate, and were not hunger-gatherers. Hunter-gatherer cultures do not create terraced hillsides for farming. Although it is not literacy as you would recognize it.

    Those cultures all used the Quipu, an elaborate system of knots on strings to record their information. It started as a simple means of recording numbers, but progressed into a system that incorporated lengths of string of different colors and placements to indicate phonetic placements. And because it was done in a base 10 system, in reality it is close to what is used by computers today, where letters are actually represented by numbers.

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    That is a quipo. The way to decipher this form of writing is lost, but it was still an effective way of recording information.

    And as somebody that learned how to read a system of recording like this as a child, it is easy to understand the concept even if the "key" has been lost.

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    So once again, you fail. You name a culture that came much later than the creators of the monuments, you list them as hunter-gatherers, and you proclaim them to be illiterate. Wrong on all 3 accounts. And you have not proven a single claim of yours as of yet.

    Oh, and BTW, I have never brought up "laser beams" or "aliens", and I would not. I do not believe in that at all, and see no reason to mention them. I am sticking to the simple facts, you are the one going on about aliens and the like.

    Stop projecting.

    And BTW, I first learned how to read keypunch cards by sight in 1974, when I was 9 years old. And even though I have not had to read one in over 35 years, I know I could do it with little problem. The only part which I no longer remember is the placements of the punctuation codes. But numbers and A through Z? That is childsplay, if you know how to read it.

    But if you do not know how to read it, all you see is a confusing array of holes that make no sense at all.

    I am sure that if some ancient culture 3,000 years from now found a cache of keypunch cards they would be as puzzled by them as we are of the Quipu today. Anybody who programmed computers 30+ years ago would know and be able to read them instantly. But I bet less than 2% of computer programmers under 40 have any clue as to how to read one.
     
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    Dude, every other post you made was aliens and laser beams.
    I never brought that up.
    There are other theories.
    You brought in the India Hindu,
    That was my first rebuttal yo your aliens rant.

    Any you think these knotted ropes, used long after the place was built, was the math system, used.

    Not only do you not provide a mathematical system.
    You still have not provided the tools to build the place.

    Common sense would dictate this as another incident the people inherited, as opposed to building themselves.

    In your mind you have, however your grasp on reality is a bit lax.
     
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    if the granite is split off correctly there is very little final dressing is required it will shear of in layers at the bed...not much mystery behind this if anyone was objective in their research, it's normal stone quarry work only nowadays there is modern machinery to do it quickly ...

    my bro-in-law (a geologist for 35yrs)dropped in for a visit today so I asked him for a quick education on granite, he said there are many types of granite with varying degrees of hardness and being granite doesn't make it impervious(some will shatter when worked)

    he pointed out that my kitchen counter is a gneiss (formed at very high temp and pressure)and would would be at the top end for hardness due to it's high quartz content, plus my counters apparently have a very high Garnet content which is indicative even higher temps and pressure in formation and greater hardness...despite it's hardness it's been easy to chip pieces off by simply dropping a pot on it, it's quite brittle(and expensive :cry:)...could I damage it or scratch it with another chunk of granite, yes easily...could an Egyptian quarry worker pound chips off a granite block with another granite, if like mine yeah easily...

    anyways that kills any myth and speculation of granite's invisibility, you just need the right tools, knowledge/experience, manpower and time...three thousand years of working with stone there's no doubt Egyptian stone masons had plenty of accumulated experience and knowledge...
     
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    I'm sorry but that is not correct.
    Sure you can scratch the rocks together, but you cannot make the cuts on the pieces.
    Perfect inside 90 degree cuts, just cannot be done by banging rocks together.
    Either you are not looking at the pictures, or you simply do not understand how things work.
    Not only are these machine made, they are made for a purpose.
    A purpose far more demanding than hunter/gatherer people would use.

    Tomorrow, go outside and pick up a couple rocks, hard rocks,, and bang them together for a while.

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    Then obviously you should be able to quote me on that. Show me one quote where I brought it up where I was not responding to a nonsensical post of yours.

    And once again, you do nothing to prove your case, you just vomit out more nonsense.

    Prove that I was the one that started the discussion of aliens and lasers. As I said already, you are confusing me with somebody else.

    I am done, you seem to have no grasp of reality. You confuse me with other people, you refuse to provide any prrof of what you claim, you ignore multiple references and simply say they are wrong without anything to back up that claim.

    It is like trying to debate with a 2 year old.
     
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    Best post you made.
    I also am done, you seem to have no grasp of reality.

    Now click your heels 3 times, and say.
    There's no place like home.

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    Projection.
     
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    Written into Hindu history, was a nuclear war,

    I can understand how a catastrophic event like that would not only, wipe out what was here, but whatever was left would disappear into lost un-renewable piles of whatever, and then corrode into nothing.
    The people, regardless how advanced would return to the stone age, to start the world again.
     
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    Actually we do have some, carved in stone, laughing at us, because we just cannot figure it out.
     
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    We have lots of coastal cities buried in the last 15,000 years.
    The sea level was 400 or so feet lower.
     
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    Globe spanning glaciers melting for a few thousand years at the end of the ice age will tend to add an inch or two now and then.
     
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    Hell, we're worried about an inch or two, with what is happening right now.
    Glaciers, miles thick covering the top and bottom of the planet, added about 400 feet.

    Global sea level rose by a total of more than 120 metres as the vast ice sheets of the last Ice Age melted back. This melt-back lasted from about 19,000 to about 6,000 years ago, meaning that the average rate of sea-level rise was roughly 1 metre per century.


    Previous studies of sea-level change at individual locations have suggested that the gradual rise may have been marked by abrupt ‘jumps’ of sea-level rise at rates that approached 5 metres per century. These estimates were based on analyses of the distribution of fossil corals around Barbados and coastal drowning along the Sunda Shelf, an extension of the continental shelf of East Asia.
     
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    my "inch or two" was entirely facetious. my bad.
     
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    :laughing:
     
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    Notice how he is unable to reference anything to validate his claims?

    Hell, could not even reference where I was talking about aliens and laser beams. Told me several times that I had been doing that, but when challenged could not provide a single reference where I did so that was not a response to his claims of aliens.

    I am still waiting for the proof I was constantly talking about lasers and aliens.

    Well, at the height of the current Ice Age, sea level was about 120 meters lower than it is today. That is why when the first to immigrate to the US first visited San Francisco, what they found was a wide river canyon, and the actual coast was more than 20 miles to the West.

    And sea levels will continue to rise. By the time of the last interglacial, sea levels were still 6-8 meters higher than they are today. And in many Northern areas ground levels are still rising. Not because of global warming, but "glacial rebound". The weight actually pushed down the land, and it is still returning to it's previous level now that the weight is gone.

    I still wonder how long it is going to be until the Yonaguni Monument is added in here as such a structure.
     

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