Andrew Yang: The entire socialism-capitalism dichotomy is out of date

Have you noticed that any proposed fix to our societal problems is called socialism or communism by many on the right???

They had better be careful or they might make socialism, or communism, or social democracy look attractive to the average voter.

Right now, I found one of the Democratic Presidential candidates say that we need a mixed system to solve our problems and I think he has a good point there.

Andrew Yang: The entire socialism-capitalism dichotomy is out of date
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Here's another look at Andrew Yang.

CloseUp: Presidential candidate Andrew Yang advocates universal basic income
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He seems to be too out of the box to be taken seriously by Democratic primary voters.

 

If he gets more media attention maybe that won't be the case.

Remember Trump got free media attention and the frequency of Trump's appearance probably pushed him over the top in swing states.

 

I feel conflicted on Andrew Yang. I believe in UBI. I had my own proposal, which I think works much better. And I agree/disagree with him on numerous issues. But suffice to say, he'd be the best possible candidate thus far in the field. I could vote for this guy and feel like it'll be okay.

 

The difference is that Trump had issues that the Republican Primary base was ready to hear, and no other candidate was on those issues. Yang seems to have a better grasp of our challenges than any of the other Democratic candidates, but that's a low bar, and his only solution is UBI, which most other Democratic candidates seem to support, plus a lot of other free stuff. I don't see how he competes.

 

Exactly.

Yang is NOT a serious candidate.

 

He does not come off sounding like a damn fool like so many of the other democrats

 

Of course it is. Nobody dies from acute starvation anymore. Every man and his dog has a refridgerator and 3 TVs.

So they pivoted from class conflict over economic status to class conflict over racial and sexual identity.

 

In some ways that's true. Socialism is all about putting the means of production in the hands of the people. Turns out capitalism is actually pretty good at accomplishing that, as the machines all of us are typing on can attest to.

 

I find it fascinating that you support UBI and, based on your forum name, I think you might lean right. I thought UBI was still a minority position. If so it's a small world meeting you here.

 

Are you saying that Asians have more of a protected identity status then average? Because I think Asians have it worse than whites with college admissions and stuff.

 

He is ahead of his time, given that serious discussions of what is inevitable, mass unemployment along with non living wage job employment is not being seen in the media, nor are politicians even thinking about it, or so it seems. So, yes, out of the box, and it is a dangerous that it is not common knowledge, what he is saying. This tremendous problem is sneaking up on us, and will at some point become reality and what a shocker it will be!!!

 

What this guy is talking about is common sense, given what AI,robotics and automation is doing to what capitalism will yield. And it will not be jobs, or at least near enough of them.

Dreaming that something AI, robotics and automation will not be able to do, will replace those displaced by these things, is just that, a dream, a fantasy perhaps. This tremendous revolution that displaces workers like never before, with nothing to really replace those jobs as time goes on, is an event that will implode capitalism, for machines do not consume, nor do they get paid money to be spent on consumption to keep the train going and on the tracks.

Conservatives are not gonna like where "necessity is the mother of invention" world is taking us, via AI, robotics, and automation. As well as low wage globalism. Their worst fears will be their reality. I think you can take that to the bank.

 

We've come a long way in terms of automation. The industrial age has massively expanded the common man's lot, not diminished it.

People always forget that automation slashes prices.

 

Normally he'd have no chance, but the Democratic Party doesn't have a lot of other viable options right now.

(Realistically, Bernie is probably too old at this point)

Probably he has near as good of a chance as any other potential Democratic candidate who's come forward so far.

 

Except the basic universal income is basically socialism. Working people giving non-working people money to not work? Socialism at its finest.

 

Yang is probably more serious than the wacko socialist politicians in the democrat party

At least he is intelligent

My question to him is does he support the democrat open borders policy?

Because complaining about poverty is pointless when we import millions of poor people through the mexican border

But I think I know based on his second interview

He is a typical clueless liberal socialist democrat and basically does not know what he is talking about

 

By getting rid of jobs that make americans consumers. So what happens when you get rid of enough jobs so that there are so few consumers? Well, your market would be some foreign nation, those who still have people who work for an income.

Can automation and AI slash prices, so they are so low that people who have no job, no income can buy them? ha ha

 

I listened to this guy the other night and I was impressed with his intellect and articulation. He is someone who deserves more looking at.

 

I couldn't agree more. I think I have found which Democrat primary candidate I want to vote for.

 

Has nothing to do with socialism. It is something completely different. Socialism at its core is a negation of individuals, or stockholders, owning the means of production of goods and services. So, if this ownership is still in the private sector, you do not have actual socialism in effect. And it is hard to wiggle out of this fact.

To those on the right, anytime you give someone something that he did not personally work for and earn, this is confused with socialism. Or if you take, via taxes from one who works, and gives it to anyone or anything else, that is socialism. SO, the right side crowd throws everything that can into one pot, and then being dishonest intellectually, calls it socialism, since socialism is such a loaded and bad thing to them.

I think we need a more accurate term for those things which are not socialism, to keep the right side from clouding up what socialism actually is. Hell, they even call a Commons socialism, when a Commons has existed to some degree in every civilization since the rise of civilization. If it is a Commons they do not like, then they call it socialism. You never hear them complain about war spending, and maintaining a military, using money taken from those who work, as being socialism, do you? ha ha

 

I think he does know what he is talking about, and sees what will inevitably happen due to AI, automation and robotics. It takes intelligence to project into the future what will be created due to irreversible trends.

I expect both parties will take a broadside when what Chang is talking about actually happens, in regards to jobs. And it will show that he is an Einstein what both parties were little more than clueless village idiots.

We are facing what has never been faced before. Industrial jobs replaced farm work, but there is nothing that can replace the consequences of AI, automation and robotics, shoving humans in far too large numbers out of the capitalistic equation. What will happen, unless addressed, would be like taking money out of capitalism, and expecting it to sustain itself. It really is basic common sense. I am astounded so few can grasp it.

 

Democrat primary votes don't count for anything. The DNC elite choose the candidate.

 

UBI isn't left/right. Everyone that's actually knows what it is supports it. The only real debate is how to pay for it.