Another mass shooting deserves a better answer.

Discussion in 'United States' started by kungfuliberal, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ignoring the real problems by thinking an inanimate object is the problem only leads to failure of your goal.
     
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    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    169 owners turned over an unspecified amount of firearms out of just over 310,000 registered owners in NZ owning about 1.5 million firearms. Its a novel idea but clearly not an effective one.
     
  3. tharock220

    tharock220 Well-Known Member

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    There have likely been a dozen murders between yesterday and today's shooting. I'll answer your question when you express sincere concern for those 12 deaths.
     
  4. TomFitz

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    Law enforcement knows that the NRA will sue to protect the privacy of gun owners. They’ve done it before.

    When public outrage moved the Florida legislature to move to ban sales of assault rifles to minors ,it was the NRA that rushed to teenage America’s defense.

    The gun crowd will repeat the usual rationalizations and try to assert that we should all accept this random warlike violence as a commonplace, but this isn’t the way civilized societies behave.
     
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    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mentioned Republican cities, then posted a chart showing Republican states. That isn't being honest, but perhaps it was simply an uniformed error.

    Are you not aware that many of the largest cities in Republican states are run by Democrat politicians? Dig a little deeper into the murder statistics and get back to us please. Perhaps dig into the demographics, you will learn something about the United States. You seem to care deeply about us over here, so I just want you to understand the facts.
     
  6. modernpaladin

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    The NRA will sue to protect the privacy of lawful gun owners who are NRA members.

    That doesn't explain the 10s of thousands of reported illegal attempted purchases by prohibited persons every year that nobody investigates.
     
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  7. HTownMarine

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    Christians are the most persecuted religion on the planet and it's not even close...

    So no, not really. I could name 100 other countries where they likely wouldnt even have made it this far.
     
  8. Terrapinstation

    Terrapinstation Well-Known Member

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    Remember in the early to mid 2000s? Few shootings, few racial incidents, etc. I said it before and I'll say it again, it's going to take decades to recover as a society from what Obama and his socialist pals did to this country
     
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  9. Bowerbird

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    Are you telling me that cities in Texas and Louisiana are run by democrats?

    I posted valid information and you are challenging it then it is up to you to do the research not me. The person who makes the claim is the one who must validate it. My claim was that republican states have a higher firearm mortality your claim is that it is because the Democrats control the cities in those states

    Should be simple enough for you
     
  10. Bowerbird

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    John Lott says you are wrong LOLS

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    Sweet jaysus I am going to keep this for the next time someone tries to use Lott’s twaddle to justify “guns for all”

    THIS Is what is more concerning

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    It is the frequency of attacks coupled with an increase in victims. As you can see the frequency has been on a steady rice for decades so, no, NOT Obama’s fault
     
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  11. TomFitz

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    Yes, Obama brought out the right wing crazies, and Trump incites them.
     
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    Yes..

    What source would you find acceptable?

    Or you are just going to cover your ignorance on the matter with an endless stream of stupid memes?
     
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    Thanks for showing that shootings were consistently much worse under Obama, even with missing his last few years
     
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    Terrapinstation Well-Known Member

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    lol
     
  15. Bowerbird

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    So what is Trump doing about the current situation?

    Obama is no longer in power and if it was his fault :roll: then Trump should be able to fix it?

    BTW exactly HOW was it “Obama’s fault”?
     
  16. Bowerbird

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    WHAAAA?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_persecution

    Until you can cite cases of organ harvesting as is happening to the Falun Gong then I would not agree with this
     
  17. Bowerbird

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    It did up until it fired its lawyers lols!
     
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    Terrapinstation Well-Known Member

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    Trump's doing a ton more than Obama even pretended to do. Securing our borders, lowering the black unemployment rate, and trying to create an 'America first' attitude are all great starts. Problem is, libs continue to double down on their losing strategy of identity politics, race baiting, class warfare, etc. Dismantling the Constitution, reparations, attacking private business and individuals for differing beliefs, a nonstop barrage of attacks against straight, white, Christian males, publicly supporting groups like BLM, Antifa, increasing taxes, etc, etc.

    You literally cannot tell a group of people for years that they're responsible for all the worlds problems, they should feel guilty, they're inherently privileged, they should give all their money and possessions away, etc, and not expect a few of them to run amok. But again, it's all by design, compliments of your friendly neighborhood liberal
     
  19. Bowerbird

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    Link?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...und-of-gun-buybacks-after-christchurch-attack

    So the program has not finished yet and you are calling fail?
     
  20. Matt84

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    Sure, as long as they fit the demographic. As one user so eloquently stated, "stereotypes exist for a reason".
     
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    I wonder who will be blamed for America's resistance to gun control after the NRA is dead...
     
  22. Bowerbird

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    How does any of that, cause an increase in white nationalist mass shooters?
     
  23. Matt84

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    Lol
     
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    Obama and democrats made straight white males feel like inferior citizens for the last 12 years. White guilt, white privilege, reparations, open season on law enforcement, open borders, violence against white people. I could go on and on, but I have to assume that barrage of attacks could cause a few people to go nuts. Obama set race relations back 50 years with his rhetoric, and like I said, liberals continue to double down

    Also still waiting for any kind of proof that either of these shooters were white nationalists
     
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    https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000006

    So 3 years into Obamas term black unemployment was a cool 16.4%. 3 years into Trump it's at 6%. I know you guys can't relate to facts and statistics, but maybe you should try
     

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