Another mass shooting deserves a better answer.

Dang, sounds just like the left.

 

Data is not valid when you claim "cities" and then show data by "state." Proof: Texas as a whole tends to vote Republican. However:

Five largest Texas Cities ranked by size and their mayors

Houston: Sylvester Turner - Democrat
San Antonio: Ron Nirenberg - Independent
Dallas: Eric Johnson - Democrat
Austin: Steve Adler - Democrat
Fort Worth: Betsy Price - Republican

https://traveltips.usatoday.com/5-largest-cities-texas-63099.html (and a simple search for mayors of those cities)

Here's the top American cities by murder rate and their mayors:

St. Louis: Lyda Krewson - Democrat
Baltimore: Jack Young - Democrat
New Orleans: LaToya Cantrell - Democrat
Detroit: Mike Dugan - Democrat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate (and a simple search for their mayors)

Another fact:

Of the top 50 American cities by size, only 14 have Republican mayors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mayors_of_the_50_largest_cities_in_the_United_States

You see, in America, there exists two groups - those who live in the cities, and those who live in the rural areas. You will find a vast disparity between murders and crimes committed in cities and murders and crimes committed in rural areas (I will let you guess which is which). Progressives/leftists and their voters tend to congregate in cities. Conservatives and their voters tend to live in rural areas. Of course I am generalizing, but the overall trend is a fact as evidenced by the map below. (I am assuming you know a lot about American cities and where they are located on the map.)


Life in the rural areas is typically peaceful and sane. You'd truly be surprised just how peaceful it is if your only view of America is what comes through the mainstream media and/or progressive websites.

Of course, life in the cities is generally peaceful and sane too. Don't let the MSM give you a hyped-up view about how terrible the United States are - unless you just want to.

Edit: Adding in for Louisiana since you mentioned that state:

Largest cities and mayors:
New Orleans: LaToya Cantrell - Democrat
Baton Rouge: Sharon Weston Broome - Democrat
Shreveport: Adrian Perkins - Democrat
Lafayette: Tony Roswarski - Democrat

Final thought: You assumed that major cities in Louisiana and Texas were run by Republicans. They are actually run by Democrats.

 

Are you admitting profiles and stereotypes exist? The profile for a mass shooter is a white guy. The profile for a white collar criminal is a white guy. The profile for a drive by shooter is a black guy. The profile for a crack user is a black guy. The profile for an illegal alien is a Latino.

The profiles don't work every time, but they get you there 60 to 75% of the time.

 

First of all, I was laughing at your identity politics comment while posting the black unemployment rate. But since you're a lover of numbers.....

https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2017/u...pulation-ratio-vary-by-race-and-ethnicity.htm

Labor market outcomes in the United States vary considerably across race and ethnicity groups. In 2016, for example, the overall civilian unemployment rate was 4.9 percent, while the rates for the major race and ethnicity groups ranged from 3.6 percent for Asians to 8.4 percent for Blacks or African Americans; the rate for Whites was 4.3 percent in 2016, and the rate for Hispanics or Latinos was 5.8 percent

You're trying to compare black unemployment that Obama was handed from baby Bush to black unemployment Trump was handed from Obama? Try that ish with someone else.

 

THAT is why he says he did it. So should we be blaming those who want to control population grow, that we have too many people?

 

The Democrats were handed a 4.5% unemployment rate January of 2007 when they took back the Congress and Congressional policy. It was 7.5% by the time they also took the White House, passed a $900B stimulus on the promise unemployment would peak at 8% and then rapidly fall. Instead it shot to 10% and stayed over 8% for the next 4 years.

Black unemployment is now at historic lows both in rate and the gap between Blacks and other groups.

 

https://money.cnn.com/2006/12/26/news/economy/recession_threat/index.htm

*sigh*

 

Aarrrrgh!
I fell for the bloody trap!

Okay let’s start with what I should have stated in the first place with this stupid “it’s all the democrats fault”.



And yes I was setting some of that up in refuting the profoundly stupid statements blaming all big city issues on “democrats”

That is 3 I am sure that Texas has more than three big cities.

And it is not the mayors who write the gun legislation

https://everytown.org/mayors/
Looks like they have been VERY active in trying to address the issue
https://www.issuelab.org/funders/profile/mayors_against_illegal_guns
But for gun reform to work there must be a federal response

And that ain’t happening in America

 

I suppose it depends on how you define "big," but Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio have 1 million +, Austin and Fort Worth are in the neighborhood of 800,000+, and it goes down quite fast from there. Texas is quite rural with small towns spread out across the landscape. In those small towns, people of diverse backgrounds live together, work together, and simply lead good productive lives. Many of those people hunt and fish and own guns, even the ones with the big magazines. Hardly any of us rural citizens murder each other.

I'll leave you to guess where the vast majority of crimes and murders occur in Texas. Or Louisiana for that matter.

I wonder if crowding too many people into too little space has any influence on crime. Surely it does? Those studies where they crowd too many mice into a small space comes to mind.

 

Doesn’t matter WHAT “colour” the mayor is either red or blue if the control of the gun violence problem lies with the states and the federal government

 

What matters is when some misinformed person lumps all American gun owners into one large (and incorrect) stereotype. Rural American males who own guns are not the ones doing the murdering. So why lump us into that stereotype?

What matters is when some misinformed person thinks that every American, no matter where they live, has the same chance of being murdered as Americans living in highly-populated urban centers. So why make that stereotype?

To wit:

The Texas county* I live in has a population of 363,000 people.
It contains 1,609 square miles, quite a bit larger than the entire state of Rhode Island.
14% Black, 31% Hispanic, 7% Asian, 46% White, 2% Other (quite diverse)

The county I live in has a murder rate 1.1 per 100,000.

The murder rate in New Orleans hovers around 40 per 100,000 each year.

As you can see, quite a marked difference from the county I live in. It should be apparent that lumping the entire population of the United States into one big stereotyped group is absurd. New Orleans is dangerous. My county is very safe.

And, get this, my chances of being murdered are actually lower than if I lived in Australia!

The Australian murder rate is 1.3 per 100,000
(https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Australia/United-States/Crime)

So the Texas county I live in is actually safer than Australia... imagine that! You are more likely to be murdered than I am! And my county is filled with gun-lovin' country boys - but they still ain't shot me!

And on a side note, Australia is 77% white. My county is only 46% white. We are way more diverse than Australia. My county is a perfect example of diverse people getting along and living great lives. And, that, dear Sir, is America.

Anyway... if you want to complain about homicides in America, you need to understand where those murders are happening and direct your attention there. Life in America is NOT defined by life in the inner cities.

*Brazoria County, Texas, fact check me on the above data if you would care to. A county is a political subdivision of a state with its own government and typically its own police force. Texas has 254 counties.

 

Nah......one in all in.

 

From the outside, it looks like it is a one man show......POTUS and Congress seems to do SFA.

Cause when you fart, we get to smell it. And no, Aussie is not racist.

 

Texas SUCKS, enough said about that

 

Please start a new thread on that and you can explain your reasoning there. It would be off-topic in this thread. I look forward to your engaging commentary. Thanks!

 

What makes you think residents of Texas are more likely to carry guns than other people across the U.S.?

Someone has probably watched Walker: Texas Ranger too often.

 

Well you still have some gun crime:
http://crimestats.aic.gov.au/NHMP/

Also, you had 487 homicides in a year; that's adorable. That's like labor day weekend here.

Most mass shootings are gang related I believe. This category of crime is known as an active shooter event and that is how it is classified by the FBI. So you will see all these crazy lists like 495 mass shootings in 1 year! But look at the list, they aren't these events.

So there were 27 active shooter events in 2018, just for an accurate baseline.
https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-incidents-in-the-us-2018-041019.pdf/view

Probably still more than Australia. That doesn't really settle anything for me though. What is the significance of these events? What do they mean? Clearly they are not a response to proximity or ownership of firearms because of the millions of guns not involved in crimes. I have owned guns since I was 12 and was shooting before that. I have never shot anyone or been tempted to shoot anyone, even when I was bullied. When I was in High School, guys brought hunting rifles to school every year during deer season and most males carried a pocket knife. No stabbings or shootings at school. What was different?

So then what IS causing it do you think? If we don't know that, then how can we know a solution? We always look for something quick and easy. It is the guns, it is the violent video games, it is the rap music, it is the weed, etc etc. We love to scapegoat. If our children are growing up to be psychos, then obviously we did not raise them well. There is clearly something distressing younger people of both political types. The media knows about the copycat effect, but keeps promoting this stuff anyway. Those kids have no future and they know it. Most will never own homes or have a family unless they go on welfare and public housing. Some are NEETs and incels. Half a generation are on anti-depressants that have the known side effects of causing homicidal or suicidal thoughts. If they do get a job it will be for some soul sucking corporation making as absolutely little as legally possible. Maybe they have reasons they are pissed, or maybe we have just created an unhealthy way of life and they are a symptom not the disease.

What do you think is really driving this?

 

I can sort of understand the more rural states being dark purple but West Virginia? Is it that rural too?

 

OF course we still have gun crime! We KNEW it would not stop all guns! But do you know the average age of an illegal gun here? More than 20 years old! Lols! What it means is that it is much much much harder for some batshit crazy idiot to get their hands on a gun. No private sales without going through the police. Some guns have been stolen off of properties but not many since the gun MUST be in a gun safe when not in use and that includes when it is in the car

 

90 people per day die in the US in auto accidents. Yes, making it more like car sales will probably fix this.
In fact, we have higher auto death rates than other industrialized countries. A car ban is probably in order too.

 

And deranged people driven crazy by our liberal culture still kill other people with cars

Go figure

 

Ok but this is a great example of how the US is different. Most of the Ar-15's (you know the scary evil ones) I have ever seen IRL, were made at home using kits. You don't have to have a serial number because it is not a professionally manufactured firearm. I know people who make their own shells and bullets as well. We have a gun culture and that goes deeper than liking action movies and thinking a gun solves all life's problems. The sheer amount of firearms and ammo already in circulation is insane. Our civilian population is better armed than some militaries.
It is part of who we are. We were lucky enough to be created in this narrow window around the French revolution and the Napoleonic wars when leaders thought it was a good idea to arm their populations for total war. That idea of people defending themselves and decentralized force is as much America as free speech.

But, what do you suppose is driving the increase in meaningless shootings?

 

You auto death rate is being overtaken by the gun death rate

 

The insane modern liberal culture they grew up in

50-80 years ago this problem did not exist