Another Texas GOP lawmaker is attempting to make abortion punishable by the death penalty

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  1. FoxHastings

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    "":"why YOU think YOUR morals should be imposed on others...?"...


    LOL, you think others should answer your questions but you sure disappear when others ask you questions :) :) Too funny...
     
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    Why don't we examine that for a moment?
    If it's not okay to impose one's morals onto others, then the woman is in the wrong.
    If it is okay to impose one's morals onto others, then pro-lifers would not be in the wrong.

    What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If the woman thinks she can impose her morals than she shouldn't be surprised when someone else imposes their morals on her.

    Now, of course one argument you could try to use to get out of this is say "What the woman did might be wrong, but it would also be wrong to stop her".
    That has to presuppose that forcing your morals on others is wrong.

    And to do that, you would have to embrace deontological morality rather than consequentialist morality. And I think most pro-choicers would be very loathe to do that.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    "why YOU think YOUR morals should be imposed on others...?"


    Oh, yes , oh learned professor :roll:... You've had several days to "examine" that simple question and haven't figured out what it means yet!





    What woman? YOU think you can impose your morals on others but WOMEN can't !!!


    Only if she's the kind of demented person who thinks she can impose her morals on others




    They are in the wrong.

    THAT DOES NOT answer the question : '"why YOU think YOUR morals should be imposed on others...?"

    DO please look up the word "YOUR" in a dictionary...that indicates YOU....





    LOL, is that "learned professor"" talk ...



    What woman ? Are you talking about the woman having the abortion??


    THEN WHO TF is she imposing her morals on?

    NO ONE.
     
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    I already answered your question.
     
  5. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    "":"why YOU think YOUR morals should be imposed on others...?"...


    LOL, you think others should answer your questions but you sure disappear when others ask you questions :) :) Too funny...




    Sorry, I never saw it.....I suspect, since you didn't/couldn't produce it here , that you really didn't ;)
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We've already answered your question. But you seem to insist we haven't.

    You also have refused to explain why you think our answers don't truly constitute an answer to your question.
     
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    And so the argument really comes back to the issue of is the fetus a human being or person.
    So the issue of morality, of the type we are discussing, would seem to be irrelevant. Unless you had some type of additional argument here.
     
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  8. FoxHastings

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    NOPE, neither of you has answered "why YOU think YOUR (YOURS PERSONALLY NOT SOME GENERAL "YOUR', YOU PERSONALLY) morals should be imposed on others...?"
     
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    I answered. Do you think it's wrong to do to someone in the same way that they did to someone else, as punishment?


    Otherwise, maybe I don't really understand the meaning of what you're trying to get at with your question. (I personally wouldn't be doing anything to women, if you want to be completely literal about it)
     
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  10. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    THEN WHO TF is she imposing her morals on?

    NO ONE.



    Yuppers, that's the crux..



    Of course it's irrelevant..."morality" varies from person to person..
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    NOPE, neither of you has answered "why YOU think YOUR (YOURS PERSONALLY NOT SOME GENERAL "YOUR', YOU PERSONALLY) morals should be imposed on others...?"



    NO, you didn't and taking the time to write post after post saying "I answered" could've been used to ANSWER THE QUESTION.
     
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    Do you have any other argument you'd like to present here about why the woman should not be punished even if it was a person?

    Otherwise, this discussion with you is over, and we can take the debate about whether it is a person or not into a separate discussion in another thread.
     
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    For the same reason the woman thinks her morals should be imposed on her pregnancy.

    How is that really different? Seems fundamentally the same to me.

    "It's my body" doesn't seem like any better excuse than "It's wrong, and you're hurting someone else without their consent", within the context of discussing the "why" of imposing personal morals.
     
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    So you agree that is the women's morals , THE WOMAN'S, NOT YOURS, that should determine if she gets an abortion or not.

    . That is how it should be....




    NOPE, you think your morals should be imposed on another person....when a woman decides to abort their is only one person (her) and she does NOT impose her morals on any other PERSON
     
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    OK, you answered, You said that because you are Supreme Ruler of the World and It's Morals, YOU decide what "MORALS" ARE....

    lol, JUST ANOTHER OF YOUR SCI-FI FANTASIES
     
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    Scroll up.
     
  17. FoxHastings

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    No.


    "":"why YOU think YOUR morals should be imposed on others...?"...


    LOL, you think others should answer your questions but you sure disappear when others ask you questions :) :) Too funny...






    Sorry, I never saw it.....I suspect, since you didn't/couldn't produce it here , that you really didn't ;)
     
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    Just relax, FoxHastings, no woman is going to get the death penalty.
     
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    Gee, you forgot the title and the facts so soon?
    """Another Texas GOP lawmaker is attempting to make abortion punishable by the death penalty"""

    See, there are people sick, misogynistic, perverted and demented enough to try to execute women when they have committed no crime but being female...
     
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    What a load of disingenuous trollop you are trying to feed the Fox. At least 10 times you have been corrected on your assumed premise fallacy .. There is no other "Someone" - until you have proven that this claim is true.

    You wandering out on the stage and assuming this is true - is fallacyland - repetition of premise - which is not an argument for anything.
     
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    I think that those supporting a bigger, more powerful government should pay attention.
     
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    You should never underestimate the craziness of the Religious Conservatives. Quite clearly people who want that to happen do exist.
     
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    But, it is not and that is all that really matters.

    It has already been settled in every single thread about the topic that it is not.
     
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    In other words, you decline to address that argument there, and say you can confidently rely on another argument.

    Your thinking process here seems very parochial, I'll just point out.
    You shouldn't have even tried using addressing that argument then, since if your claim were right it would pretty much have rendered it a moot point.
     
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    LOL , another post of gibberish....is that so you can avoid answering those inconvenient posts ...you know, the ones with facts that show you to be wrong...???

    Post # 69 is one.... ;)...
     
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