another "what if??" question to the trumpers

I will set the stage

January 6 2017

trump is being confirmed to become the 45th president of the USA

Biden if doing his job and confirming the votes presented by each state

below is the "what if"

a few blocks away there is a rally held by Obuma

he is saying the exact words donald trump would use 4 years later at his rally..

at the close of the rally the crowd of the Obuma cult marched down to the capitol

they then stormed the capitol to stop the counting process

lets say the exact scenario of january 6th 2021 had happened january 6th 2017 to trump

what should happen to Obuma if this actually happened??

should have Obuma been allowed to just walk away without any consequences??

should have Obuma been able to take vacations with richard branson??

should Obuma have been allowed to buy a mansion on marthas vineyard??

or should Obuma have been locked up and banned from politics forever??

 

You already know the answer. It would be a double standard and people would be calling for all kinds of acts of condemnation and punishment.

P.S. Obama's name doesn't have a "u".

 

If it resembled what you all are pitching a major hissy fit over I'd rolled over and gone back to sleep.

 

In this scenario, did 'Obuma' say "lets go smash up the capital building" or did he say "lets go peacefully protest" and a few morons smashed it up instead?

 

Or after don jr and ass kisser rudy got thru with their verbiage did trump say something along the lines of "you're going to have to fight like hell"?

 

No, instead he said:
“Our country has had enough, We will not take it anymore and that’s what this is all about. To use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal.” “We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.” “We want to go back, and we want to get this right because we’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed, and we’re not going to stand for that.” “Nobody knows what the hell is going on. There’s never been anything like this. We will not let them silence your voices. We’re not going to let it happen. Not going to let it happen.”

I know the Republicans that lied for eight years about Obama would have totally been 100% ok with this. Hell, they would have likeky nominated him for a noble peace prize! Right?!?



What does fight mean in this language to you? Peacefully protest? Ask politely? Vote (in an election that has already occurred)?

What type of “fight” would prevent Biden from taking office?

 

Your stage has nothing to with reality. First, the FBI has concluded that the storming of the Capitol was planned in advance. The interaction at the Capitol began before any comment by Trump that could be purposely misunderstood to be incendiary.

Democrats do not want to run against Trump in 2024 since they threw every form of fraud at him in 2020 and barely squeaked out a win. Nothing more and nothing less that that.

There were some rightwing groups who planned to be there well in advance. Then BLM and ANTIFA Democrats went there to encourage Trump rally attendees to participate in illegal activities.

 

Haha, that's a really good one. After eight years of the RW throwing hissy fits over everything Obama, including the tan suit, and accusing him of being a dictator, I don't think that's how you would have reacted.

 

What Tan Suit I generally restrict myself concern about things that actually matter

 

as I said, what if Obuma had said the exact words of trump during a rally??

if the FBI determined the storming of the capitol was planned in advance ,

who planned the date and time of trumps rally?? trump?? miller??

if trump set the date then he is an accomplice to the insurrection ..

if trump claims he did not know what his cult had planned for that day

then trump should be impeached for have such a poor administration

face it...had obumas cult did anything similar to what trumps cult did

the very people that say trump is not responsible for the 1/6 riots

would be saying to hang obuma if if were antifa members storming the capitol

and BTW

it has been proven antifa and BLM had nothing to do with storming the capitol

 

There was not a need for Obama to make any inflammatory speech; the left is naturally violent; they don't need such rhetoric to get them going.

Here they are at Trump's inauguration, for example.






Here's the difference: our side has consistently condemned the political violence, whereas your side excuses it.




So I guess the real question is where were the Democrats condemning the "mostly peaceful protesters" during Trump's inauguration and most recently during the monthslong summertime rioting by Antifa and BLM? All Democrats, including every Democrat on this forum, were quiet throughout all of this. So you'll have to forgive me when my inner cynicism sees through your ploy to get us to turn on Trump by pretending that now, conveniently, you are all against rioting as a form of political expression. Well, I shouldn't say "all," as there are still Democrats on this forum that want to have their cake and eat it, too: they condemn what happened on January 6th, while continuing to defend what happened during last summer.

 

your reasons do not hold water

the riots of BLM were an impulsive reaction to what was basically a modern day lynching of a black man

the riots of the trump cult were deliberate and meant to stop biden from moving into the whitehouse

throw em all in jail I say

both sides are guilty

AOC is the face of the democrats

and MTG is the new face of the republicans

AOC is a lightweight in being crazy compared to the georgia lunatic MTG

 

Here you are--defending the rioting by saying that the rioting was justified and understandable. Also, Floyd was not lynched; recent evidence shows that he had a fatal level of fentanyl in his system, so it's a little more complicated. (1) To compare his death to actual lynching downplays lynching, and is, therefore, arguable racist.

Notice how no Republican on this forum has defended the rioting on January 6th.

How convenient you are to come to that conclusion, now that it serves a political purpose.

I'm sorry, but when was AOC removed from serving on any committees?

Anyone have the answer to that?



And MTG was just denounced by Republicans, being removed from serving on committees. Republicans put a stop to our radicals, while Democrats pose for pictures with them.



So your post wreaks of sophism with the false comparison.

1. https://www.kare11.com/article/news...ystem/89-ed69d09d-a9ec-481c-90fe-7acd4ead3d04

 

wrong..

I said since the first riot of BLM that the people creating violence and looting and burning should be arrested

I also said that 17 year old kids with rifles should not be policing the riots "kyle rittenhouse"

the BLM riots were impulsive..they began the day after the video that was 8 minutes of a black man being choked

the underlying cause of those riots were the hate of the system

it was month later before george floyd was accused of being on drugs

the trumper riots were deliberate and planned 2 months after trump lost an election

trump gathered his cult together on a specific day...the very day Biden was being confirmed

and the underlying cause of the trump riots was the love of trump..

these people rioted on behalf of trump..he was too big a ***** to be there

 

REALLY? That's news to most of us who post here regularly.

 

Nothing in there even remotely similar to 'go break the law.'

A political fight and/or a legal fight. Duh. Maybe he should've said battle, lmao.

 

Had Kyle Rittenhouse not had a Rifle he would now be dead instead of those who tried mightily to murder him...

 

How would a “political fight and/or a legal fight” prevent a fraudulent president from being confirmed the next day? Do tell...

 

had kyle rittenhouse kept his ass at home where he belonged he would not be charged with murder..

he shouod have been arrested the same as the other rioters..he is as guilty as anyone

he brought a weapon to a riot..why was it his job??

every gun owner has one code

NEVER draw a gun unless ready to shoot...

this kid has his weapon drawn,,,it was a rifle

he brought the rifle with the intent of shooting someone

handguns are for self protection

rifles are for long range killing

his parents should be jailed right along with the kid

 

Show me the thread that you created condemning the riots of BLM and Antifa.

 

show me the thread I started endorsing the riots of BLM and antifa

 

He should experience no consequences aside from those enacted by private individuals: disapproval, scorn, etc.

 

I agree unless the evidence shows trump is an accomplice to the insurrection

I posted in another thread the 3 main questions that should be asked of every witness for the defense

1. why was the rally on january 6th 2021??

2. who chose that date??

3. what was the purpose of the rally??

 

You started a thread condemning this riot. So if you are consistent with your opposition of violence as a legit political expression, where is the thread of you condemning the BLM and Antifa riots? Why are you making a thread about this riot and not about the relatively many, many, many BLM and Antifa riots? Could it be because you agreed with the message of those rioters perhaps?

 

That's essentially what the Democtats thought and said the moment Trump was elected, if one would care to recall history.

As far as the OP, Obama had already served his alotted two terms, nobody cared what he had to say at that point.