Anti abortion defeated in Ireland

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    meaning?
     
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    Meaning the Catholics Ruler/Kings in Ireland are losing their grip :) and in this country there are regressives who want to ban abortion.
     
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    When they start to have sex slave children like in UK or netherlands to be really in the 21st century ? Or send jihadists to commit genocide in Syria/Iraq like Belgium or France ?

    They're not progressive enough if they don't have jihadists and children sex slavery.

    I'm not a big fan or abortion, not really against neither. But being in the 21st century doesn't smell good.
     
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    I don't think Ireland is going to embrace conservative policies, no matter how much you want them to.

    Liberals have tried to ban child marriage in various US states.

    http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/05/effort_to_ban_child_marriage_in_nj_stalls_over_rel.html

    It's always opposed by conservatives, the party that apparently likes to see 16-year-olds married off to adults.
     
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    Some of your conservative are weird. Your liberals are not betten, probably worse.
     
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    They have had child sex slaves in Ireland for years, they are called choir boys by the Priests that use them!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_scandal_in_Ireland

    A lengthy report detailing cases of emotional, physical and sexual abuse of thousands of children over 70 years was published on 20 May 2009. The report drew on the testimony of nearly 2,000 witnesses, men and women who attended more than 200 Catholic-run schools from the 1930s until the 1990s.

    As per 2002 agreement between the victims on one side and the Roman Catholic brothers and Irish government on other side, all those who accepted the state/Brothers settlements, had to waive their right to sue both the church and the government. Their abusers' identities are also kept secret.
     
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    Sickening. I regret the time we crucified people and put them on the side of the roads. The rapists are not the only one who should be crucified, every politician/policeman/judge who knew but did nothing should know the same fate.

    Europe became a deep shithole.
     
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    Ireland was way ahead of anyone else in the terrorist stakes!

    21 July – Bloody Friday – within the space of 75 minutes, the Provisional IRA detonated 22 bombs in Belfast. Nine people were killed (including two British soldiers and one Ulster Defence Association member) while 130 were injured.
     
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    Not even close to the Bataclan attack casualties.
     
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    This is a list of notable bombings related to the Northern Ireland "Troubles" and their aftermath. It includes bombings that took place in Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland and Great Britain since 1969. There were at least 10,000 bomb attacks during the conflict (1969–1998).[1]

    1971[edit]
    • 2 November Red Lion Bar bombing – Three Protestant civilians were killed and dozens injured by an IRA bomb attack on a Protestant bar on the Ormeau Road, Belfast.
    • 4 December McGurk's Bar bombing 15 civilians were killed and 17 injured by a Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) bomb attack on a Catholic bar in Belfast.[2]
    • 11 December 1971 Balmoral Furniture Company bombing - Three Protestant civilians were killed, two of them children, and one Roman Catholic civilian was also killed. 19 people were injured in the attack. [3]
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    Do you want me to go on and on?
     
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    You don't need to make a big list to make me think that IRA are trash, Iwas already thinking that. So what ? Because IRA and catholic church was mean, it mean that the brits should let their girls be raped with the agreement of their politicians ?
     
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    you were the one who brought up it up in a thread about abortion, I just proved that Ireland already had sex slaves and terrorists. Keep back tracking!
     
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    They will have more of it so. My point was that historically feminist country like UK and France have 0 respect for women.
     
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    That makes no sense whatsoever.
     
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    It isn't just Europe !!!


    That CRAP happens all over the world and has since the world began...blame men, not their country.
     
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    I doubt it's happening in Japan... And stop trying to make that acceptable, that kind of **** wouldn't have been possible in the UK in the 60's/70's.

    My point if that feminism is bullshit. Right to abortion is made in name of "respecting women", you just have to look at the countries who are historically for that right to see they don't respect women. It's a scam.
     
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    Your grasp of the abortion issue leaves a great deal to be desired.

    Abortion is a matter of RIGHTS! Do I have a right to look at the medical files for your prostrate exam? Why should the result of your prostrate exam be a matter of privacy between you and your doctor? The answer lies in the RIGHT to PRIVACY. What happens INSIDE YOUR BODY is your business and no one else has a right to know about it. How is that any different to what happens inside someone else's body? It isn't any different which is why women have a right to an abortion which is a LEGAL MEDICAL PROCEDURE.

    As far as your allegation about feminism goes that says volumes about your attitude towards women. Explain why women should NOT be your equal when it comes to being paid the same amount for doing the same work as you do?
     
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    Prove it. You can't....it happens all over the world and for the entire history of the world....human nature is human nature...it doesn't change from country to country.




    No, the right to abortion is simply human rights, protecting everyone's right to their own body even women!!!




    Surrrrrrrre, countries who believe women have equal rights don't respect women ??? Too funny!
     
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    I never pretended that women shouldn't be paid equally. Why do you need so much to use lies and deceptions ?

    Prove me that god doesn't exist. It's as stupid that your statement.

    You can easily prove it I'm wrong by finding it a case. Prove I'm not a blue tiger. The charge of proof it toward you.

    Yes, it's a well known fact that every countries have the same homicide and rape rate.

    I'm pretty sure that letting underage girls being raped and enslaved is against a couple of human right. When you let women be raped and being sexually assaulted, no you don't respect them.
     
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    WTF do you mean "let" girls get raped?

    Good gawd, make some sense....
     
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    Are you kidding, it was rife during the 60s and 70s, look at the amount of MPs and Djs who are now inside for it, Jimmy Saville (another Catholic) is thought to be the biggest pedo we ever had in the UK, Gary Glitter, Rolf Harris and on and on.

    Underage poor kids have been preyed on by sexual predators for hundreds of years, it is the left that has fought over and over against this, for years the establishment could not give a toss, it was not their daughters, they had money. Read Dickens for goodness sake and the subtext is there about what happened to poor little girls. Now the right wing cares more because they want to attack Muslims than they actually care for the girls. It is ****ing sickening to hear people who were not interested when it was rich old white men rapping the girls acting all moral now.
     
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    <Mod Edit>

    You stated that "feminism is bullshit" which exposes the FALLACY of your claim. Feminism is about EQUALITY in all things INCLUDING pay. <Mod Edit>

    Also noted is that you could NOT respond to the issue of the individual RIGHT to PRIVACY.
     
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