The laws focus on the intent of the performance. Adult Cabaret isn't dancing. For example, the top legal definition includes "...perform in a manner which is designed primarily to appeal to the prurient interest of the patron..." Miley Cyrus is a professional singer. People primarily attend her concert to hear her sing. The primary purpose of an adult cabaret is to engage in erotic behavior. I can't believe I need to explain the difference between go-go dancing and pop music...
It boils down to the ancient argument between wanting a bigger government or smaller government, and big government supporters are naturally drawn to the idea of getting the government involved in policing parenting while small government folks would let parents raise their kids. Of course if such shows should be criminalized, then a law should be written and enforced, but to enforce laws which do not exist it not the way,
I'm the one who posted the crucifix picture and no, it has nothing to do with diddling kids. That's a completely different reason why children should be prohibited from attending church services.
This whole thread is about laws that are being passed to affect the DQ shows. Why are you going on about there not being laws?
If there was a law, then these violations would be handled in court, but they are not. They are handled at the Governors office who is using things like liquor license database to punish those who disagree with his views, even though these things have nothing to do with alcohol. The Governor declared himself the judge and the executioner. In case if Disney he also was not able to use courts, because no law had been broken, so he used the government contract with Reedy Creek to punish them. These things are enforced outside of the legal system, which is why its so corrupt. If there was a gun registry, he would no doubt use that too to hurt those who disagree. Maybe he'll revoke driver licenses from parents who disagree. Either enforce existing laws and let courts handle the sentencing, or if there is no law, then create one and then use the courts. The legal system exists for a reason, and what is happening in Florida is NOT the American way, its the 3rd world tyrants way,
Ok, so TN has criminalized the shows and can enforce the laws in the courts like any other law. Good. They do not need the Governor to invent laws, and penalties for non-existing crimes like the FL Governor does.
That's actually exactly what Governor's can do https://www.nga.org/governors/powers-and-authority/ "As state managers, Governors are responsible for implementing state laws and overseeing the operation of the state executive branch. As state leaders, Governors advance and pursue new and revised policies and programs using a variety of tools, among them executive orders, executive budgets, and legislative proposals and vetoes. As chiefs of the state, Governors serve as the intergovernmental liaison to the federal government on behalf of the state." DeSantis sees this drag reading hour as inappropriate for children and more destructive then productive to society. And I agree.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0800-0899/0800/0800.html He's using existing laws. I don't know the precedent of this statute, but it's probably not a good idea to wear pasties and a thong doing adult performances while holding the hand of someone else's child. The law usually has qualifiers such as it doesn't matter if the victim gave consent or you did not know their age. https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/d...-restaurant-that-lets-kids-attend-drag-shows/ This is perverted behavior. Also, drag shows are the modern day minstrel show. Parents taking their children to these shows are absolutely disgusting.
No, the Governors office is not a law enforcement agency, or the court of law and the Governor is not the judge. How do you not know this? If existing laws are sufficient to criminalize the shows, then let those laws be enforced in the way the law requires. We have a legal system in place, so there is no need for some Mussolini wannabe in the Governors mansion to override the system by placing all authority upon himself. Its unamerican. This big-government mindset is going to cost his party lot of votes (he is already plummeting in the polls, - 41 points in some places), because most people prefer parents take care of the parenting as opposed to having the government play parent.
He filed a complaint with the Department of Business and Professional Regulation, the same as anyone can do. How do you not know this? What are you talking about? It's a "big government mindset" to file a complaint against a bar? Do you want DeSantis to abolish the Department of Business and Professional Regulation? Or, do you want to make it so that nobody can file complaints anymore? Why are you defending this? This bar deserves to have a complaint filed against it.
Drag is the modern day minstrel show. It's highly sexist. It's an activity where men take every stereotype of a woman and amplify it to the most extreme they can while performing acts. The states targeting drag shows are typically targeting the ones that of the adult cabaret variety being performed for children.
What I know is that he is playing the judge and the executioner, - just the way you like it. Who cares if we have courts, juries and judges when we can centralize all power on one man. Department of Business and Professional Regulation is part of DeSantis admin, just FYI. They'll do as he says. Let it sink in.
How is filing a complaint "playing the judge and the executioner?" I also noticed you avoided the part of my post around the behavior of the bar you're defending. Why do you condone that behavior? I would love for you to explain it to me so it can sink in.
I can't explain something I never said. Please don't put words in my mouth. Its dishonest. I said its a difference in world view, where you prefer a bigger and more intrusive government (where government shields people from moral evils), and I prefer a smaller one. It is not my duty, and its not your duty and sure as hell is not the duty of the government to raise other peoples children. If you have kids and you want to shied them from these kinds of things, then that is YOUR DUTY to keep them away from such shows (I know I would), not the duty of the government. I doubt we will never agree on this, but this is how I see things.
So they aren’t targeting Drag Story hour? Do parents have a right to take their children to a Drag show?
Many states are looking to ban adult cabaret drag shows for children. I don't know of a state that has any real effort to ban sexist crossdressers from reading books. Those laws would likely be struck down as illegal.
I don’t know if any laws explicitly targeting Drag Story Hour; I’d have to do a bit of digging, but are you saying that candidates and pundits alike are not actively attacking such performances?
You've repeatedly claimed DeSantis, who took action against the venue for this behavior, is acting like an authoritarian. You say this has been happening for a long time (it hasn't). You called him a "third-world dictator" for trying to stop it. You claim it's not a law enforcement issue because no laws were broken. You claim the government is "enforcing laws that do not exist" when laws about lewd and lascivious laws do exist. You complain that going after their liquor license is illegal because there are guidelines to remove it, but DeSantis is using the proper guidelines by filing a complaint. You've repeatedly called DeSantis an "executioner" for trying to stop this. You say they shouldn't try to stop it because the parents are allowing this to happen, and other people should respect that. Etc. You've repeatedly defended this behavior and condoned it by saying other people should not get involved in the way people raise their children. But, this is the exact photo/video that caused DeSantis to file a complaint against this bar. This is the exact issue you're defending and calling him an "executioner" and falsely claiming he is taking illegal action against this bar. My worldview is that adults should not be allowed to include children in their sex shows. Your worldview is that people should not try to stop it. I agree we won't agree on this issue. Your big government vs small government comparison is nonsense based on your post history on other issues. I appreciate that you hve a small government position on some issues, I just wish it wasn't about including children in sexual performances.
Oh, people are protesting drag story hour. But, this thread is about laws. I could be wrong, but I'm not aware of states that are looking to ban book reading.
You do not have to explain my view to me, especially when you are going to twist it into something that its not. I know what my view is. My view is that parenting is the parents responsibility, not the government responsibility (your view). Like what other issues?
